I hesitate to look for a new ship, because of the need to engineer 
There is plenty of money for every ship, but fitting it properly is an obstacle.
There is plenty of money for every ship, but fitting it properly is an obstacle.
When ships turn bad :D
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Don't get on with any of the Alliance ships. All bought - all sold.
Mine's called Ermintrude.
I like the Cobra. Don't mind the offset seat, but try to dock a SRV when it's parked on rough ground . . .
Bought a Clipper when anyone could buy one during the celebrations following the imperial succession. Beautiful ship - snazzy flight deck - fastest acceleration (at the time) - couldn't find a use for it and it had to go when I was short of cash (those were the days).
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I actually really like the offset seat position in the Cobra (and Python which I consider the medium Cobra).
I do wonder though, how do you off centre hating people manage to drive your car? Or is everyone rocking a McLaren F1?
OT, the Mamba is a ship I would like to like, but each time I take one for a test drive (A rated but not engineered, which is likely the issue) I can't enjoy the flight model. It seems to fly more like a Lakon ship as opposed to what its looks indicate.... some day I might give it a proper chance though and G5 it, in the hope that my impressions change.
I do wonder though, how do you off centre hating people manage to drive your car? Or is everyone rocking a McLaren F1?
OT, the Mamba is a ship I would like to like, but each time I take one for a test drive (A rated but not engineered, which is likely the issue) I can't enjoy the flight model. It seems to fly more like a Lakon ship as opposed to what its looks indicate.... some day I might give it a proper chance though and G5 it, in the hope that my impressions change.
I dont really care for it in a car either, I just cant readily change what car Im driving on a whim when it annoys me.
Upside though, I can walk.
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Just wait until spacelegs 2020 introduces offset camera positions by accident.
Actually, last night one of the many bugs I encountered during my play session was one where the pilot position was slightly offset backwards - I could see part of the eyeballs and teeth of my holo-me. Was a bit freaky I have to say.
Oh hey its a Federal Corvette with wheels, I am okay with this.This is the car you're looking for.
Nice topic - some great replies too!
I'm odd that I loved flying the T10, it just felt like a huge, heavy ship and forced the 'think 5 seconds ahead' mentality to kick in, so have to say it "did what it says on the tin" there. (Yes, in VR the cockpit is like being in a Cathedral too...)
The Cutter, apart from its huge cargo capacity, I can't get to like flying as its lines lull you into a false sense of security about its agility
Just bought a vette, thought "here goes another Space Cow" and was totally wrong - it is almost like flying a medium ship, I think I may like this one a lot!
Cobra III, FDL, Python, yes - offset seating - I like all 3 for their own foibles (although the Python is boring, excellent - but boring) and could fly the FDL all day, every day as I really like that cockpit in VR too...
I'm odd that I loved flying the T10, it just felt like a huge, heavy ship and forced the 'think 5 seconds ahead' mentality to kick in, so have to say it "did what it says on the tin" there. (Yes, in VR the cockpit is like being in a Cathedral too...)
The Cutter, apart from its huge cargo capacity, I can't get to like flying as its lines lull you into a false sense of security about its agility
Just bought a vette, thought "here goes another Space Cow" and was totally wrong - it is almost like flying a medium ship, I think I may like this one a lot!
Cobra III, FDL, Python, yes - offset seating - I like all 3 for their own foibles (although the Python is boring, excellent - but boring) and could fly the FDL all day, every day as I really like that cockpit in VR too...
Nice topic - some great replies too!
I'm odd that I loved flying the T10, it just felt like a huge, heavy ship and forced the 'think 5 seconds ahead' mentality to kick in, so have to say it "did what it says on the tin" there. (Yes, in VR the cockpit is like being in a Cathedral too...)
The Cutter, apart from its huge cargo capacity, I can't get to like flying as its lines lull you into a false sense of security about its agility
Just bought a vette, thought "here goes another Space Cow" and was totally wrong - it is almost like flying a medium ship, I think I may like this one a lot!
Cobra III, FDL, Python, yes - offset seating - I like all 3 for their own foibles (although the Python is boring, excellent - but boring) and could fly the FDL all day, every day as I really like that cockpit in VR too...
Thanks, it is nice to have a thread that isn't a whinge fest lol
Don't get me wrong, although I haven't been complimentary about my newly purchased T-9 I kind of expected it to handle like it does, it is just up to me to get use to it.
Got to agree with you, the Python is boring but oh so practicable and is the best at what it does. I have always referred to my Python as my work truck, great at what it does but not something I would drive for fun on the weekends.
I don't mind the FdL but have to admit I have fallen heavily for the Mamba. I love the view, and most importantly I love the hardpoint layout, everything being on the top side suits the way I fly. It use to frustrate me with the FdL that sometimes I couldn't bear onto a target because of the hardpoint placements, haven't found the problem reoccurring with the Mamba.
Bang on about the T-9. Slow, hard work, feels really heavy, turns like a supertanker.
Superb, I've got six.
The 'conda was my end game(ish) objective. Can haul, explore and fight. But I HATE the cockpit with a passion.
I think the mistake I made was exploring in an AspX with its incredible views for so long before I jumped in to the Conda. Didn't even make it the 3 or 4 jumps to Farseer before I dumped it for a Python. (Still not a great view but I'll take it)
I think the mistake I made was exploring in an AspX with its incredible views for so long before I jumped in to the Conda. Didn't even make it the 3 or 4 jumps to Farseer before I dumped it for a Python. (Still not a great view but I'll take it)
Ive never been bothered with the view of any non combat ship in ghis game cause 3rd person camera exists. Heck I can do my core mining entirely without leaving the external camera mode.
Agree, Vette handles like big Vulture, both in realspace and supercruise very good handling.Nice topic - some great replies too!
I'm odd that I loved flying the T10, it just felt like a huge, heavy ship and forced the 'think 5 seconds ahead' mentality to kick in, so have to say it "did what it says on the tin" there. (Yes, in VR the cockpit is like being in a Cathedral too...)
The Cutter, apart from its huge cargo capacity, I can't get to like flying as its lines lull you into a false sense of security about its agility
Just bought a vette, thought "here goes another Space Cow" and was totally wrong - it is almost like flying a medium ship, I think I may like this one a lot!
Cobra III, FDL, Python, yes - offset seating - I like all 3 for their own foibles (although the Python is boring, excellent - but boring) and could fly the FDL all day, every day as I really like that cockpit in VR too...
And way better internals then the Conda. It really is my most loved large
Or just remove or move that strut, it kills the FdL for me as I can't see the timer most of the time.
Back to topic, and the type 9 with its pitiful MLF. Its mean to be just about the biggest hauler but can get mass locked by a Python or Krait. That just killed it for me.
Now a fly a type 10 for mining, which is a shame, because while i like the type 10, its the type 9 i really want to fly.
For hauling i use a Clipper simply due to its speed and SC turn rate, its a dream to fly.
It's not so much the view. It's the huge wasted space. It like driving a car from the back seat.
The only ship that i really hated from the very first second was the Adder.
The cockpit view, skewed too far to the right and obscured, is to blame.
Also i have a minor issue with the cockpit view of Dolphin, but that ship is way to nice in everything else that i kinda get over it in less than 30s after switching to it.
Otherwise, no issues at all - i like to fly the Cutter and also the T9, the Conda and the Vette, the Kraits, The Alliance ships, basically all ships that i tried except the Adder.
Have to admit that i never tried the T10, nor the FDL or Mamba. There are chances that i will hate the FDL too
The cockpit view, skewed too far to the right and obscured, is to blame.
Also i have a minor issue with the cockpit view of Dolphin, but that ship is way to nice in everything else that i kinda get over it in less than 30s after switching to it.
Otherwise, no issues at all - i like to fly the Cutter and also the T9, the Conda and the Vette, the Kraits, The Alliance ships, basically all ships that i tried except the Adder.
Have to admit that i never tried the T10, nor the FDL or Mamba. There are chances that i will hate the FDL too
Ohh, Yeah I feel that. That made me cringe just imagining it. Good example!
Python, it is really nice ship, but I cannot stand the cockpit glass, so it was a great relief that we got the Krait, that in most aspects was on par with the Python...
I have similiar issues with the FDL...
Adder, who are the designer that are afraid to look out the windows? why put the seat so far back, that the side windows are basically useless, this did not really bother me that much until I tried to fly one in VR, where you position is even further back... that truly hammered down the idea that the designer was afraid of the outside...becuase the only thing I can think of is that it was planned to put a bulkhead between the chairs and the window and simply rely on cameras and holograms for flying... I was not so much bothered by the no sitting in the middle.... like in the Python and the Adder.
on a related annoyance, why cannot we choose which chair to pilot from? if we can put other CMDRs in those chairs, then why not allow us to switch to those chairs, it would be our choice...
I have similiar issues with the FDL...
Adder, who are the designer that are afraid to look out the windows? why put the seat so far back, that the side windows are basically useless, this did not really bother me that much until I tried to fly one in VR, where you position is even further back... that truly hammered down the idea that the designer was afraid of the outside...becuase the only thing I can think of is that it was planned to put a bulkhead between the chairs and the window and simply rely on cameras and holograms for flying... I was not so much bothered by the no sitting in the middle.... like in the Python and the Adder.
on a related annoyance, why cannot we choose which chair to pilot from? if we can put other CMDRs in those chairs, then why not allow us to switch to those chairs, it would be our choice...
This x100. I have the same issue. I spent so much time out in the black in my Asp that I had trouble adjusting to my other ships. Even my DbX that I do sightseeing missions with ends up getting parked. I am preparing for my first trip to Colonia and was going to take the DbX because of its range but my Asp is only about 8Ly behind it and is unarmed but has a huge fuel scoop. I then decided to buy a Krait Mk2 and kit it out for the journey but I keep imagining myself back in the Asp. I don't want to make that trip unarmed so I may end up with some pew pews on my AspX.
Courier.. intensely disliked the dark triangular bit of hull in the centre with the two little prongy things. 
and, sadly, because it was my dream boat bought with Sag A exploration riches (100M), the FDL. As already mentioned, the weird sitting position/strut thing.
I also couldn't fly it for toffee
So I bought a Clipper, and THAT ticked all my boxes for a very long time.
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and, sadly, because it was my dream boat bought with Sag A exploration riches (100M), the FDL. As already mentioned, the weird sitting position/strut thing.
I also couldn't fly it for toffee
So I bought a Clipper, and THAT ticked all my boxes for a very long time.
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