ANNOUNCEMENT Community Update (22/10)

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Frontier did say that there would only be minor updates in 2019 and 2020 until the release of The New Era at the end of 2020. (I wouldn't be surprised if TNE is delayed beyond that though.) DBOBE claims to have a 10-year development plan, including atmospheric flight and landings, procedurally-generated cities, multi-player capital ships, walking around ship and station interiors and planetary surfaces, on-foot player interaction and combat and other activities, and ship boarding. I see no reason to disbelieve him.

I don't know. I remember an interview in The One (Amiga) with David Braben that I may have taken rather too much at his word about being able to do absolutely everything (being of a tender age, just able to vote etc) that the reality of that game fell rather short, so much as I dig the chap and enjoy his excited handwaving, I take him with a pinch of salt nowadays. (Also dug up this one, and this (p44,45) about ED's grandfather's bugs...). I'm sure he wants to do all those things, but they may continue to elude his grasp.
 
As did I. I played the original Elite on my Acorn Electron.

That doesn't mean waiting 18 months for content is great.

How many players will say 'screw this', move onto other games and not come back?
Much fewer players than those will come back, those that stay and wait, and those new players that will join.
 
Do people actually believe this story about suddenly deciding to listen to the community and cancelling the announced update to fix bugs? The bugs, and the complaints, have been around for years, but FD showed no interest before. More likely in my view that they're having problems, and this is a face saving tactic.
 
Do people actually believe this story about suddenly deciding to listen to the community and cancelling the announced update to fix bugs? The bugs, and the complaints, have been around for years, but FD showed no interest before. More likely in my view that they're having problems, and this is a face saving tactic.
I usually take people at their word unless they've been proven to be liars or if the potential of their lying poses me great risk. 🤷
 
Do people actually believe this story about suddenly deciding to listen to the community and cancelling the announced update to fix bugs? The bugs, and the complaints, have been around for years, but FD showed no interest before. More likely in my view that they're having problems, and this is a face saving tactic.

That is correct. But let the fanboy crowd dreaming.
 
As did I. I played the original Elite on my Acorn Electron.
Me too. I still have the complete original game and computer. It still works perfectly, as does the CRT monitor and other peripherals. I still use it. Great little machine that.
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That doesn't mean waiting 18 months for content is great.
I didn't say that waiting 18 months for content was great. Obviously it sucks. I said that having waited 30 years for Elite Dangerous, and with significant content dependably planned over 10 years, waiting 18 months is no time at all by comparison.

I don't know. I remember an interview in The One (Amiga) with David Braben that I may have taken rather too much at his word about being able to do absolutely everything (being of a tender age, just able to vote etc) that the reality of that game fell rather short, so much as I dig the chap and enjoy his excited handwaving, I take him with a pinch of salt nowadays. (Also dug up this one, and this (p44,45) about ED's grandfather's bugs...). I'm sure he wants to do all those things, but they may continue to elude his grasp.
In those quarter-century-old articles DB (as he was then) is talking about Frontier Elite II. Now I admit I played FE2 and its sequel Frontier First Encounters too back in the '90s, and still have the original games in fact - they even still work on my PC with DOSBox - so actually I only waited more like 20 years for ED since FFE. But you're talking 16-bit computers and x86 CPUs at best to implement the game with then. And then DB doesn't promise Fleet Carriers or Space Legs in those old articles. And then FE2 and FFE did have atmospheric landings fitted as standard even so. You could sell the Atmospheric Shielding for extra starting dough.
 
I usually take people at their word unless they've been proven to be liars or if the potential of their lying poses me great risk. 🤷

Which is exactly what FD has done for years... one of many example : Beyond was supposed to be THE update to fix bugs.
You must have not been playing long the game...Or blind sided..
 
Imo - and it is only my opinion - ED has been relegated as a result of FD's commitment to dinos and coasters.

Whilst I can appreciate the corporate attraction, especially with regards to Ten Cent and their passion for micro-transactions, I do feel that those of us who have devoted several hundreds or thousands of play-hours to ED are entitled - yes, I did say entitled - to expect FD to stand by their promises to introduce new content: something that they have yet again failed to do.

As a VR player, I can honestly say that ED is still the best experience. In terms of value for money, ED has been the gift that went on giving.

However, FD should not promise new content and then jump ship when we are expecting delivery on those promises.

I'll return periodically to ED to see if the new features are ever introduced but until then, I shall play something else.

I live in hope..but sometimes, hope can prove to be forlorn.
 
Imo - and it is only my opinion - ED has been relegated as a result of FD's commitment to dinos and coasters.

Whilst I can appreciate the corporate attraction, especially with regards to Ten Cent and their passion for micro-transactions, I do feel that those of us who have devoted several hundreds or thousands of play-hours to ED are entitled - yes, I did say entitled - to expect FD to stand by their promises to introduce new content: something that they have yet again failed to do.

As a VR player, I can honestly say that ED is still the best experience. In terms of value for money, ED has been the gift that went on giving.

However, FD should not promise new content and then jump ship when we are expecting delivery on those promises.

I'll return periodically to ED to see if the new features are ever introduced but until then, I shall play something else.

I live in hope..but sometimes, hope can prove to be forlorn.

I am the first to criticize FD but on this one, they own us nothing. You paid already for it and your F***. that is all.
Like me, I am a LEP and i don't think they are entitled to anything.
 
For me, its not so such that I wanted or needed a Fleet Carrier.

I wanted new content, for veteran players like me. The only thing on the content menu for the whole of 2019 was Fleet Carriers, so naturally a lot a players were looking forward to that. I'd be fine if we got new ships, new rumours/stuff to find in the Codex or well.........new content.

Instead its delayed (again) to 2020 Q2 and "we can't wait to show you what we've been working on!" That line only works so many times when content starved, especially when Frontier haven't officially said anything about what they're working on.
This reflects exactly how I feel.

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I am the first to criticize FD but on this one, they own us nothing. You paid already for it and your F***. that is all.
Like me, I am a LEP and i don't think they are entitled to anything.
I already stated that in terms of value for money, ED has over-delivered. I am simply making the point that if FD make a promise of new content by a certain date, they should deliver on that promise.

Perhaps you didn't read my post correctly.
 
Which is exactly what FD has done for years... one of many example : Beyond was supposed to be THE update to fix bugs.
You must have not been playing long the game...Or blind sided..
I still don't think Frontier purposefully posts lies. That would cause serious damage to them as public company if word got out. No, I just think they've been grossly incompetent, which in my book is the lesser of the two evils.
 
I don't know. I remember an interview in The One (Amiga) with David Braben that I may have taken rather too much at his word about being able to do absolutely everything (being of a tender age, just able to vote etc) that the reality of that game fell rather short, so much as I dig the chap and enjoy his excited handwaving, I take him with a pinch of salt nowadays. (Also dug up this one, and this (p44,45) about ED's grandfather's bugs...). I'm sure he wants to do all those things, but they may continue to elude his grasp.
So much houseplants in that one picture. Love that 80's interior design. I'd be so hyped if Braben said something along the lines of making Elite Elite again this Christmas (maybe with houseplants). Dangerous galaxy and spaceships and alien mysteries. I'd probably buy one of those cockpit plants if I wasn't currently on a little break and still not quite over 3.3/Beyond update.
 
So much houseplants in that one picture. Love that 80's interior design. I'd be so hyped if Braben said something along the lines of making Elite Elite again this Christmas (maybe with houseplants). Dangerous galaxy and spaceships and alien mysteries. I'd probably buy one of those cockpit plants if I wasn't currently on a little break and still not quite over 3.3/Beyond update.
It took me 9 months away from the game to get over 3.4/Beyond FSS. In the end I came back to the game, got used to it, and it works well for me now.
 
What’s funny is they’ve actually committed to even more work.. instead of focusing on fleet carriers which aren’t working they’re also committing to bug fixes.. unless all this marketing fluff is just one guy during overtime fixing trivial cosmetic issues (finally) how are they going to do even more without pulling people off space legs?

maybe everyone is working on planet zoo right now and elite will get it’s turn next year. Didn’t they hint at that in the annual report? “Focus” I think..
 
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