Seems Very Quiet Around Here

Companies have a social media presence because social media is very powerful, mainly because many people are under-educated and cannot separate fact from fiction. I can give you plenty of examples if you want.

You most definitely do not have to do that, thanks though. My point still stands that mean people on the internet is no excuse for a subpar product or lack of support delivered to said product.
 
It sure is unfortunate that there are people; Particularly on Twitter, who have no filter. Likewise, it's just people on the internet. If someone has thin skin when it comes to reading things on the internet, they should probably make a point to avoid social media all together. Regardless, the implication I'm getting from this article is that it's us, the paying customers who complain, that are at fault here. How dare we have voices and opinions. Clearly we need our technocratic overlords to put us in our place and stop us from voicing opinions. Lest someone else take something they read on the internet too seriously and end up with hurt feelings. :cautious:

You need to actually read it to understand, you should pay attention to the bit about the toxic 0.1% saying devs need a thicker skin.
 
What you all guys are saying makes alot sense. Apparently sports people and im guessing celebrities don't read their social media comments partly because of anti social behavior.. they would have paid individuals to do it for them.

Which also makes me disagree with the assertion that community managers shouldn't have thick skin. There are people at frontier who are making their living, doing a job like everyone else, to go through the social media for elite. Because of the upfront payment and the disassociation of it not being their personal accounts, its for Frontier Developments the company, you'd think they would be prepared to read it all, the good and the bad.. with PRE WARNING that there will be a certain percentage of it that comes from the worst people out there.. but handling it knowingly.. and professionally.

Frontier are paying people to have thick skin. The developers would do it out of pleasure themselves if they were the grandchildren of everyone on the internet. But it doesn't work that way. Asking the collective internet who wont do it to bubblewrap people who are getting paid to wade though it all seems really apologetic. For a person, its whether you get banned or known as a psychopath if that is your thing. Be honest otherwise. They're getting paid...
 
I would say a lack of a game, yeah, its remarkable.
But if you read it as 'not enough game' rather than 'not any game at all' (which is clearly not the case) it's subjective & fair comment.
Or you could read it: "not enough game" for some people (the usual glass-half-empty moaners), or even "enough game" for others (glass-half-full, happy, well-adjusted folk). 😃
And if you tilt your head and squint your eyes while looking at the comment, you would read the hidden instructions on how to find Raxxla 🤩
 
One thing FDEV are doing is recoding sections or all of the game, if you think about this for a second its not a small undertaking. All this is done whilst still releasing patches for a codebase which wont get used beyond 2020.

On the whole coming from a software engineering perspective its not a small undertaking.

Im happy to wait till 2020 as long as ED still works on Xbox1X :)
 
What you all guys are saying makes alot sense. Apparently sports people and im guessing celebrities don't read their social media comments partly because of anti social behavior.. they would have paid individuals to do it for them.

It's not just their social media that needs to be watched though is it.

You remember the two week delay NMS had before launch. One particular nutter didn't just lose it about the dev's but sent death threats to the family of a journalist who happened to report that the launch was delayed. Seems like something of an overreaction to me.

Which also makes me disagree with the assertion that community managers shouldn't have thick skin. There are people at frontier who are making their living, doing a job like everyone else, to go through the social media for elite. Because of the upfront payment and the disassociation of it not being their personal accounts, its for Frontier Developments the company, you'd think they would be prepared to read it all, the good and the bad.. with PRE WARNING that there will be a certain percentage of it that comes from the worst people out there.. but handling it knowingly.. and professionally.

The community managers exist to filter out the rubbish for the devs specifically because a lot of it isn't worth reading at all.

Take the focussed feedback threads as an example, they are the most heavily moderated threads on the forum because nobody cares about all the people losing it about nothing. They are a way of sorting the wheat from the chaff and not wasting time.

Frontier are paying people to have thick skin. The developers would do it out of pleasure themselves if they were the grandchildren of everyone on the internet. But it doesn't work that way. Asking the collective internet who wont do it to bubblewrap people who are getting paid to wade though it all seems really apologetic. For a person, its whether you get banned or known as a psychopath if that is your thing. Be honest otherwise. They're getting paid...

They pay the cops to have a thick skin and sort out the worst examples for them via corporation tax.

Again with the NMS delay there was a online threat to go to the office with a rifle. That guy is obviously into space games, he's probably already been banned here, on reddit, on facebook and twitter. Probably keeps on with the alts though.

If you show up in person at a business and talk in that way you'd be lucky to get away with just being physically ejected from the building. Internet anonymity makes some people bypass their ability to communicate in a reasonable way and that's becoming more common, which just makes people less likely to listen.
 
It's not just their social media that needs to be watched though is it.

You remember the two week delay NMS had before launch. One particular nutter didn't just lose it about the dev's but sent death threats to the family of a journalist who happened to report that the launch was delayed. Seems like something of an overreaction to me.



The community managers exist to filter out the rubbish for the devs specifically because a lot of it isn't worth reading at all.

Take the focussed feedback threads as an example, they are the most heavily moderated threads on the forum because nobody cares about all the people losing it about nothing. They are a way of sorting the wheat from the chaff and not wasting time.



They pay the cops to have a thick skin and sort out the worst examples for them via corporation tax.

Again with the NMS delay there was a online threat to go to the office with a rifle. That guy is obviously into space games, he's probably already been banned here, on reddit, on facebook and twitter. Probably keeps on with the alts though.

If you show up in person at a business and talk in that way you'd be lucky to get away with just being physically ejected from the building. Internet anonymity makes some people bypass their ability to communicate in a reasonable way and that's becoming more common, which just makes people less likely to listen.

Yeah i completely agree. Developers themselves shouldn't have to wade though the crap, because in an organisation like frontier, one individual would be helpless to address any issue even with the best intentions.

I think it goes without saying there's an easily line of content that would make instantly deleted posts, and luckily we have none of that here or the mods are doing their thing.

Now that you mention it, its really fortunate and such a relief that there aren't star citizen / nms nutters here (though.. hmmm maybe one nevermind he doesn't come along very often). Even the most crazy white knights here are still human here compared to those mutations... think that's why i like em and wish em well in the end.
 
Yeah i completely agree. Developers themselves shouldn't have to wade though the crap, because in an organisation like frontier, one individual would be helpless to address any issue even with the best intentions.

I think it goes without saying there's an easily line of content that would make instantly deleted posts, and luckily we have none of that here or the mods are doing their thing.

Now that you mention it, its really fortunate and such a relief that there aren't star citizen / nms nutters here (though.. hmmm maybe one nevermind he doesn't come along very often). Even the most crazy white knights here are still human here compared to those mutations... think that's why i like em and wish em well in the end.

We are all space game fans in the end. Even that one comedy nutcase who copped a perma-ban for repeatedly telling me I should kill myself for not being sufficiently unhappy and furious about the hobby that I enjoy and do for fun.
 
I thought engineers was horrid because people had to gather mats to make their space ships better. Oh wait, you're talking about something else...
Well, I do have to gather materials (ores and salvage) to make my space ships better, but the process is way more fun and logical than Engineers in ED ;)
 
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