It's too bad this hasn't gotten more notice. Surely these tests and the system that not only allowed their rapid development but promises to bring more lifesaving advancements in the future to combat this war is a humongous positive for all humans on the face of the planet? I look at the big picture and things such as this in a very hopeful light. Fingers crossed that there's more good news to come.
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RKI now warns Germany: We have to assume our HealthCareSystem getting overwhelmed . It IS a frightening prospect, but I do prefer the experts, specialists, and even politicians to assume and prepare for the worst, and be brutally honest with us . The earlier we face it, the better .
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It is a bit shocking though that, even though everyone who matters does not even want to think about an - even only partial - Exit Strategy, media and some people in the political circus are picking up on the topicc . One thing is being made clear from all sides though: we will NOT risk loss of human life cos "economy" .
Its crazy how all this transforms me personally . Adamant critic, non forgiving pointer out of mistakes, lies, coverups ( like the in Germany still ongoing scandal re VW, Benz and others cos exhaustions ), unbearable realities ( Germany being really good in exporting things...mostly weapons and military technology ) and other stuff, I never really had the feeling my homecountry is a place I agree with . I do have a connection to the Land and Nature ofc, but I was kindof constantly at War with many, many things being "normal" in Germany . How Politics and Institutions deal with the Pandemic...is about the first time I realize that when it comes to quite a few really important things, here is actually pretty good . All of a sudden, I am rather happy to live in Germany .
RKI-Chef Wieler: „Müssen damit rechnen, dass Kapazitäten nicht ausreichen“ - WELT
Der Präsident des Robert-Koch-Instituts hält es für gut möglich, dass die deutschen Krankenhäuser an ihre Kapazitätsgrenzen geraten. Diskussionen über ein Ende der Kontaktsperre hält Lothar Wieler nicht nur für verfrüht, sondern für absurd.
It is a bit shocking though that, even though everyone who matters does not even want to think about an - even only partial - Exit Strategy, media and some people in the political circus are picking up on the topicc . One thing is being made clear from all sides though: we will NOT risk loss of human life cos "economy" .
Its crazy how all this transforms me personally . Adamant critic, non forgiving pointer out of mistakes, lies, coverups ( like the in Germany still ongoing scandal re VW, Benz and others cos exhaustions ), unbearable realities ( Germany being really good in exporting things...mostly weapons and military technology ) and other stuff, I never really had the feeling my homecountry is a place I agree with . I do have a connection to the Land and Nature ofc, but I was kindof constantly at War with many, many things being "normal" in Germany . How Politics and Institutions deal with the Pandemic...is about the first time I realize that when it comes to quite a few really important things, here is actually pretty good . All of a sudden, I am rather happy to live in Germany .
Here are the top six countries by confirmed cases (based on the case numbers from the Center for Systems Science and Engineering at Johns Hopkins University as of 2:30 pm ET March 27) in descending order:
- USA (94,238)
- Italy (86,498)
- Spain (64,059)
- Germany (49,344)
- Iran (32,332)
- France (29,593)
- Italy (1386.13)
- Spain (1280.78)
- Germany (615.57)
- France (436.17)
- Iran (380.72)
- USA (283.30)
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Well, to be fair:
the virus natural reservoir was not uncovered yet and it may take a while - as a side note, the natural reservoir for the first SARS-CoV-1 was discovered in 2017.
there are theories that propose scenarios in which the virus jumped from animals to humans with another possible animal between source and humans.
there is no evidence to suggest it was man-made (although absence of evidence...)
So it's still open to debate, but the balance is tipping to natural
Granted, if it was man-made, it would be the best kept secret ever - even only to avoid a WW3
You read that linked paper ?
They are certainly counted for their country of origin.
To those of you inclined to the "man made origins" conspiracy theory. Say, for the sake of argument, that the leaders of the world all got together and looked seriously at the models by climate alarmists/climate crisis-ists and decided that we really were on an unsustainable path regarding population density/pollution/resource over-consumption/warming etc, and literally looked at it as the existential threat that the environmentalists have been presenting. What do you think a globally coordinated plan to correct that would actually look like? Because a virus that kills mostly the elderly, the obese and those with underlying healthcare concerns while leaving the rest of civilization (those useful to production in other words) relatively intact would seem to be a great starting point. Hell, even look at this constant game of frantically shutting the barn door...long after the horses have bolted approach we've seen world wide over and over. Is that simple incompetence, or a plan?
Not that I subscribe to this, but it is food for thought.
Not that I subscribe to this, but it is food for thought.
at least 5-6 times, did you read it?
there are a lot of phrases there that are rather contradicting the abstract of the article. their entire construct is based on absence of evidence.
Yeah I did . Was just asking to make sure, or otherwise learn your source if it was a different one .
There isn't just an absence of evidence that it was man-made, there is direct counter evidence:
If someone were trying to build a weapon out of a coronavirus, they almost certainly would have used the more optimal receptor binding domain already present in SARS-CoV, rather than taking shots in the dark to replace something that already worked very well when building a hypothetical SARS-CoV-2.
All I know is that if you want stop overpopulation you shouldn't make something the forces people to be locked up with their better halves, for weeks. We all know what this will lead to.
I have a plan for that. Of course when I shared the details of that plan with Mrs Barron she slapped me across the face and said something to the effect of "That's not happening, mister!"All I know is that if you want stop overpopulation you shouldn't make something the forces people to be locked up with their better halves, for weeks. We all know what this will lead to.
An American infectious disease expert, advisor to Donald Trump on the coronavirus, Dr Anthony Fauci, evokes with caution Sunday a range of 100,000 to 200,000 potential deaths in the United States linked to Covid-19.
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Russell's teapot would like a word with you.
German state finance minister found dead – DW – 03/29/2020
Police suspect Thomas Schäfer died by suicide after his body was found on train tracks near Wiesbaden. He was the finance minister for the state of Hesse, where Germany's financial center Frankfurt lies.
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Bad news. Not only for his family, but what it portends for the economy. There are too few decent humans in politics & we cannot afford to lose them.
ok, so you have a virology lab in the same district an outbreak starts in, since 2005 the lab is investigating bat corona virus'. In 2015 a paper is published where they ENGINEERED a bat based corana virus to infect human cells: https://www.nature.com/news/enginee...N1eZ5FJT9QhXYTkX6O5v0FeZiRkH4DL_Y3KZuXhCnXu-Q
Obviously I'm no expert but jebus H cristi that's a HELL of alot of cosincidences don't you all think? Same area, same type of virus? I'm not saying it was let out on purpose but a lab worker could get accidentaly exposed or an infected bat escapes......it's just too coincidental to me. Scientists are baffled by how FAST this thing mutated to infect humans.....maybe it didn't mutate after all.
edit quote from the article: "Simon Wain-Hobson, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, points out that the researchers have created a novel virus that “grows remarkably well” in human cells. “If the virus escaped, nobody could predict the trajectory,” he says. "
No, you are indeed not an expert. But if you click that very link of yours you'll find that the very first paragraph is written by people who are experts. And they wrote it specifically to inform people like you that you should not use the article to fuel your conspiracy theories.
That is just straight-up nonsensical. Scientists aren't baffled, you are. Right before the quote that you took out of context to base your flight of fantasy on they explicitly said this:
So we have a study, which explicitly tells you to not use it for conspiracies, and concludes that coronaviruses capable of infecting humans may be more common in the wild, and all you take away from it is the exact opposite of what they say. What this study showed, five years ago, is that coronaviruses in the wild are more dangerous than assumed.
Guess they had a point.
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And there is no funny stuff hapening on the home office lunch break, when you have three kids home from school.
All I know is that if you want stop overpopulation you shouldn't make something the forces people to be locked up with their better halves, for weeks. We all know what this will lead to.
Now I don’t know the reasoning why someone will do this, but economical destruction could be the end goal and not elimination of people?
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