This thread had to be built from scratch, it's doing things other threads have never done before and now that the pipelines are in place progress will be amazing. The defense force gameplay is becoming a bit stale, though, so we'll need to refactor that and build ExcusesEngine 2.0 from the ground up, which will require refactoring of the back-end server so that we can accommodate hundreds of thousands of participants in a single instance.
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Thank you to the last two posters for bringing this thread back on track. 
Depends on who's reading the drivel I supposeThank you to the last two posters for bringing this thread back on track.
0/10 MTBFritz post.
Treatise didn't cover the whole of one page of the thread.
Dont read it then? And right back at ya
has this been posted here?
has this been posted here?
yes but this thread is notorious for posting the same old same old so dont feel bad about it ^^
has this been posted here?
Must? Well it certainly should. Question is, can be?
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From the article:
At this point, Cloud Imperium needs to just stop looking for money and actually produce something tangible.
Then underneath lots of coments from slightly offended people saying "nah aaah, nah aaah - reasons"
Honestly when is "no they don't need to make anything tangible, they need to make more money" a valid argument for any games developer. Imagine people making those kinds of defensive arguments if it was someone like EA or Ubisoft.
Realy?
Yep. Creationists have no way of demonstrating how the mechanisms that they claim to work, actually work. It comes down to magic, or maybe a "cargo cult" understanding of science (if you dress up as scientists you're doing science kinda cart-before-horse situation).
Which, tbh, is a lot like CIG's methods of cargo cult game development. Or maybe it's cargo cult gameplay. Hmmm.
FWIW it's a really interesting phenomenon.
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Its a shame the author didn't do some fact checking. There are a few bits that are off, and of course, the faithful latched onto those to dismiss the rest of it.
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This writer obviously does not know anything about game development, pretty sure CIG is onto something great after all this time. Why would otherwise the Calders give them another 17 million? Just reward for their awesome and spectacular progress.
I'm quite sure the investors were drawn in on the back of how much CIG make from upselling assets and not unit sales of a complete game like other companies.
I can imagine the sorts of convesations they had around the numbers, "people buy game assets at these kinds of prices". "Look at these kinds of returns we can have over these periods".
That's a horrific place to be, we are so far from the original Kickstarter's claim of this being a game for gamers and "no pay to win" etc. It's a game for the money men.
Got it in one...the Calders aren't interested whether Ci¬G actually produce a space game or not, but merely raking in cash for their investment through the current financial model.
I think your feelings are shared by many.
The next one is meant to be "The Machine is Bleeding to Death" - a chilling name indeed.
Coincidentally (and just to repeat something that hasn't been said in a while), cargo cult programming is a classic anti-pattern. It rather looks like CI¬G used that page as a checklist for determining how to set up shop…
There's a handful they haven't been able to implement yet, but it's not many and I'm sure they're working hard to cover those as well.
LOL
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