VR support 'not at launch' for Odyssey

Warlord007

Warlord007
Just a quick bit of info on how i started with ED and VR

I first got into VR with this : http://www.osvr.org/hdk2.html (im sure i have the version before this one, but could not find the link for that one)
You could not even read any of the textin ed without sticking your head within 2 inches lol
This was the first time my Son had tried VR, he has never looked at it again :(

Next i got the HTC vive, have to admit this was better but reading text in ED was still not easy

The Pimax 8k followed that and it was good (to very good) but ED messed that one up and dropped all support for all headsets but oculus and htc

EDIT:
I forgot during the wait i got the Lenovo WMR headset, VR quality with ED was fine, but the headset was built like crap and the hinge broke and was not useable after :(

Finally after a long waiting list i got the valve index , this is on par with the Pimax 8k but runs better as it is supported under steam with the slanted screens that Ed dont support


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Thats my VR life with ED :)
war
 
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rp198419

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I think Fdev have neither the will nor the expertise to put VR into Odyssey. They are catering for new console players and a younger audience...if they can pull them away from Fortnite.

I only ever play VR games nowadays and have no inclination to go back to pancake 2D. However, ED: Horizons is awesome in VR and I will continue to play it all the time it exists. It really is one of, if not the best, VR game out there...but if it wasn't in VR, I would not have bought it in the first place as its gamepleay is so poor.

In short, it is the VR experience which has clocked up my 2,000 hour in the game.

In my opinion, FDev have been rather dishonest over the 'New Era. or as it is now called, 'Odyssey'.

It is not an expansion to ED but rather a new game altogether. Its eventual release - whenever that may actually occur - is however like to mean that no further improvements will be made to Horizons, which is a pity.

I will not be buying 2D Odyssey but, for those who do, don't be surprised if your credits from ED do not carry over.

The existing player base is, imo, clearly unimportant to Frontier; they are interested only in new, probably younger players.
 

Darth Ender

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not having walking around vr is essentially saying a tiny studio like hello games can accomplish what you can't.

then again, hello games did a lot of stuff fdev hasn't been able to. fdev is lucky hello games had such a different artistic vision for their game. It seems like their engine would be more than capable of everything elite's is while providing for everything it can't.

If it's a separate game like cqc, then i'll ignore it just like cqc.
 

-VR- pipestein

-VR- pipestein
Alien said:
No .... try going back to what Zac actually said .... that's it's best to assume there is no crossover and that they don't know at this stage where the seperation is.
So, still opinion, not fact ... because last time I looked, you didn't have "Frontier Employee" under your name on the forum.

AND

No, that's an opinion, because the only ones that know what the facts are regarding the difficulties of implementing VR into Elite Dangerous are the Frontier devs themselves.

AND

I haven't said you're lying ... so now I add troll to the list of what I think about you. You are gaining a track record for making things up (still not calling you a liar)

You're quoting what Zac said to Alec Turner, which in itself was an opinion, and you insist it is a fact that proves there will never be VR in Odyssey, and cannot seem to grasp the concept that anything you type on this is opinion because you are not a Frontier employee. You are not the one working on VR in Elite Dangerous, that is why anything you say is an opinion ... nothing to do with whether you are lying or not.
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You do realize that your Elite Start window has an entry for Elite Dangerous AND Elite Dangerous Horizons, right? When you play one you have no contact with the players of the other. Elite Dangerous Origins is going to be another entry on that list. Frontier is dividing the player base into three groups at this point but hey it is their design choice I only live here. I have to believe Alien that by now you should understand that calling people trolls when you get fired up is not a smart move. As an outside observer in all of this I would point the finger of trollish doom directly at you ehich is disappointing because I know you are smarter than that, the old grade school playground addage of He who smelt it first dealt it first. In other words you are not helping your argument. You have been around long enough alien to know and understand Frontiers track record on things like this. It may not be said out loud that frontier have abandoned VR entirely but as a realist on the track record of frontier I would not hold my breath. We can only judge Frontier on their actions to date and those actions have been disappointing at times. Sorry I should actually be clear... on planatary surfaces there is no contact between players with different versions of the game.
 
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VR Mr Teatime

VR Mr Teatime
Darth Ender said:
not having walking around vr is essentially saying a tiny studio like hello games can accomplish what you can't.

then again, hello games did a lot of stuff fdev hasn't been able to. fdev is lucky hello games had such a different artistic vision for their game. It seems like their engine would be more than capable of everything elite's is while providing for everything it can't.

If it's a separate game like cqc, then i'll ignore it just like cqc.
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I agree, if NMS didn't look like one of John Lennon's bad acid trips and tried to adhere to some semblance of first principles of planetary geology/stellar composition etc. it would definitely be somewhere to go.
That design philosophy of using scientific principles to derive the environment is what makes Elite Dangerous so appealing to me. Even when clichéd RPG combat elements were introduced, I could always count on being able immerse myself in a 1:1 representation of the Milky Way that was, at least at the celestial object level, believable and consistent. With VR that immersion level was sublime and its omission from Odyssey just makes it look like Frontier no longer care.
 

Stamford Rider

Stamford Rider
pipestein said:
You do realize that your Elite Start window has an entry for Elite Dangerous AND Elite Dangerous Horizons, right? When you play one you have no contact with the players of the other.
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This /may/ be true, I genuinely don't know, but if it is there's no reason other than marketing for it, the net code's the same and permitting cross-play between Horizons and Base would be even easier than cross-play between platforms. Utterly trivial. Marketing decisions might be easier to change through lobbying than technological restrictions.
 

heathenlamb

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Ezren said:
None of which were FPS games. Omnidirectional movement in a three-dimensional space is a bit different than controlling Pac-Man.

What a grossly misleading argument you make.
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Errrr ... plenty of them were FPS games lol. What a grossly misleading knowledge of games you have. And of course ... a ship isn't flown an Omnidirectional movement in a three-dimensional space .... der ... LOL.
 

Cmdr Andrew Johnson

Cmdr Andrew Johnson
All I wanted was to get up from my cockpit seat, walk around my ship, walk through a space station to a bar and have a few glasses of Lavian brandy with my fellow Cmdrs and have a chat. I’m not interested in a doom style shooting game, I would just like some normal life in the galaxy.
 

[VR]m335

[VR]m335
-VR- pipestein said:
When you play one you have no contact with the players of the other.
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Is that really true? Obviously, I can't land on planets without horizons, but is non-horizons really equivalent to a private group?

IIRC, I've called on the Fuel Rats once, and had to switch to non-horizons due to planetary proximity, but I don't remember if they specifically had to also run non-horizons.
 
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Alien

Alien
-VR- pipestein said:
You do realize that your Elite Start window has an entry for Elite Dangerous AND Elite Dangerous Horizons, right? When you play one you have no contact with the players of the other. Elite Dangerous Origins is going to be another entry on that list. Frontier is dividing the player base into three groups at this point but hey it is their design choice I only live here. I have to believe Alien that by now you should understand that calling people trolls when you get fired up is not a smart move. As an outside observer in all of this I would point the finger of trollish doom directly at you ehich is disappointing because I know you are smarter than that, the old grade school playground addage of He who smelt it first dealt it first. In other words you are not helping your argument. You have been around long enough alien to know and understand Frontiers track record on things like this. It may not be said out loud that frontier have abandoned VR entirely but as a realist on the track record of frontier I would not hold my breath. We can only judge Frontier on their actions to date and those actions have been disappointing at times. Sorry I should actually be clear... on planatary surfaces there is no contact between players with different versions of the game.
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The only thing I know about Odyssey is that I have no idea how it's going to work. It has just been announced.
I have many faults, it's true, but one thing I do pride myself on is not assuming things. All I see since this announcement (heck I could extend this back to the kickstarter) is people assuming things. Right now, VR players are assuming that Frontier are dropping VR. Some are assuming that Frontier are only dropping VR for Odyssey, while others are assuming it's across all the game. You're assuming the players are being split into three groups, but right now all I see is the VR players trying to split the community up into VR players and non-VR players.

That's how I see it, and I will correct people and if necessary, yes I will call them trolls if that's how they are acting.
 

CMDR M Kozak

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[QUOTE="Alien, post: 8509914, member: 1153]
Right now, VR players are assuming that Frontier are dropping VR. Some are assuming that Frontier are only dropping VR for Odyssey, while others are assuming it's across all the game. You're assuming the players are being split into three groups, but right now all I see is the VR players trying to split the community up into VR players and non-VR players.

That's how I see it, and I will correct people and if necessary, yes I will call them trolls if that's how they are acting.
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Faulty interpretation. Uninformed. More have been confirmed than you care to know.

Not your fault as everything is buried deep in megathreads.

But its your fault that you assume that I want a split.... actually I only want inclusion.
 

[VR]m335

[VR]m335
Alien said:
And what I said in that other thread is aimed at you. You assume too much.
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Says you, who assumes a false economy choice between VR (at least basic headlook in case we are getting off topic here) and other players interests.

That's rich.
 
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