ANNOUNCEMENT Fleet Carriers Update - Patch 3

So, they 'fixed' the broken mechanic by breaking it even further until the broken bit broke completely... now you can see something that isn't there for you, but is there for anyone else who hasn't already mined it? Class fix!

i dont think its visible for anyone... its just an interesting fact that the hologram effect on the rock as its getting scanned shows the deposits, but they are effectively gone (after you try resetting)
 
OK, mining data pre and post patch. The hot spots in SWOILZ PK-R B20-0 look identical pre and post. Pre-Patch - In Triple HS - every 2nd/3rd rock had 20% plus LTD with many above 30%. Mined 448T in 2 Hours. Post-Patch - In Triple HS - 30 prospector Limpets got me 2 hits, 9.1% and 13.4% LTD. I tried different spots, jumping out and back in, same hit rate. The Quad HS was worse, with another 30 prospector limpets for not 1 rock with any LTD at all. Void Opals here I come!

I guess the depletion mechanic for hotspots might be working???
 
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  • An issue which allowed launching a fighter to restore sub-surface deposits on asteroids was fixed.
  • A bug with material distribution in overlapping hotspots was fixed and hotspost themselves we rebalanced. Now, the effect that each hotspot has on the base rarity of a commodity has been doubled. To counter this, hotspots of the same type which overlap will be less effective. The aim of thsese changes is to reduce the massive impact of overlapping hotspots while still ensuring they provide a higher yield than non-overlapping hotspots.

Can you fix the typo, please? (thsese -> these)

Cheers. Can you try and fix the bug where LTD asteroid fragments don't display their percentage at some point? It's a pain when mining.

If you want that they fix this bug, then please confirm the already reported bug here: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/18100
 
Hmm, found a couple of bugs already ... need to test them out in more detail but ...

Transferring mission-specific items to your fleet carrier doesn't appear to be permitted ... that's fine, but if you hit the transfer all it lets you flag them for transfer - but then you can't move them back

I had 128 units of something in my hold, I sold 2 of them to make room for a mission-critical item, got to my carrier to find I only had 2 of them left in my hold (need to check this one again just to make sure it wasn't user error)

Anyone else seeing these?
 
But that's 21 million credits, sorry, 20 million credits, sorry 17 million credits, sorry, 9 million credits, what are you doing hurry up and sell them before they equal the price of BIOWASTE per ton. :ROFLMAO:
Still, 700t of trit = 3 mil :D, huge ratio. What they thought doing such a mining refuel ?>: Why anybody should waste time bothering tritium?
 
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What the bloody !?!??!
 
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Sure huge profits when you can now only buy 1-2 tons at a time for 4k. lol
That's not about profit, it's about carrier refuel. 700t at 40k price = 30 mil = 30 diamonds? Time to mine 30 diamonds ~ time to mine 30t trit. Extra 670t of trit are free. That is not assuming best prices. As they nerfed diamonds, we could try some other minerals with lower ratio, still better then mining trit.
 
I've fired about a hundred limpets in my triple LTD spot so far, and I have literally ONE LTD to show for it.

I had a feeling they'd kill mining as a reliable source of income for a while, but I didn't expect it to be this far nerfed. I guess doing missions is now the way to do it. Either that or asteroid-cracking, since I haven't tried that yet
 
Only been to 2 spots I knew of where there was LTD SSD rocks, so take with grain of salt not a large sample. And hadn't done LTD SSD mining before, was hauling tritium and bought a FC with just enough credits left over to add some optional services. So thought I'd just go mine regular way and get couple hundred million (even if it took an all day session, 200-300mil is fine, don't need 1b/hour)

So that said - the 'egg' at the popular col-sector system was definitely nerfed at least in my sample tries - loaded in, found the spot using the youtube instructions, and when prospector is fired - it very briefly shows the blue outline of 4 SSD deposits, so I know this is 'the egg' - but it immediately says asteroid is deleted, and not only are the SSD spots all gone, but the asteroid itself is completely depleted as if it had been already laser mined. Basically, the egg is a dead rock for everything, not just SSD.

Went to another 1 hotspot location I found with a 2 SSD rock, and this too is like above - when prospector fired, very briefly see the outline of 2 SSDs, but prospector then says asteroid depleted - like the egg above, the regular laser mining stuff I expected to see - tritrium, bromelite, etc all depleted.

So in my small sample size, it looks like either some or at least the known SSD rocks Fdev could pinpoint were set to -depleted- status. Ironically, there nerf for SLF fighter which is all the patch said, looks like wiped out regular mining too. Guess I should have done some mining instead of tritium hauling while the going was good.

I now have a FC but not much funds to maintain it so will just sell it back.
 
I've fired about a hundred limpets in my triple LTD spot so far, and I have literally ONE LTD to show for it.

I had a feeling they'd kill mining as a reliable source of income for a while, but I didn't expect it to be this far nerfed. I guess doing missions is now the way to do it. Either that or asteroid-cracking, since I haven't tried that yet
I think time to swap to rocky rings, like serendepide etc. They don't have tritium = yellows means something usable there.
 
Well thats it. Mined to get a FC. no point in mining now. Selling the FC. Oh and now they say VR not going to be supported for odyssey. Will not be playing for some time now. bye all o7
 

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ugh....

Well, went into my best 2x LTD Hotspot (fully embedded, 100% overlap)., 17497LY from SOL. An ultra pristine location I've made a few runs into. 150-200t LTDs per run, no sweat.
I've been in the general location (both Hotspot centers ~1000-1300km away more or less) and that's roughly where I went again to test LTD mining post-update.

There's one tiny problem now : this (by the Patchnotes) still pristine location has everything... except Low Temperature Diamonds lol
It seems they're.... they're just gone

Technically, this location is now a "LTD Coldspot".
I can easily find Bromellite and Tritium is widespread everywhere.

LTD Cores found : zero
LTD Surface Deposits found : zero
LTD SubSurface Deposits found : zero
LTD Asteroids found : one (1). It had 5% LTD.

This is literally the best I could locate so far firing half of my Limpet Cargo :
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...in a super-pristine Double LTD Hotspot with 100% large overlap.

Conclusion : Yep, there's something wrong with LTD Mining right now. Looks like it's been literally killed.
LTD Mining now feels like pre-V3.0, where you could easily spend 256 Limpets and maybe (maybe) get a few tons out of it by sheer luck.

So this post-patch LTD Mining Run ?
Looks about like this (not joking) :
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(luckily I found an Alexandrite Core, otherwise I'd still be sitting there almost empty)

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Yay, I finally found a single LTD Core lol.
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(at least these still exist, wasn't quite sure anymore)
 
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I've been mining since the patch dropped... fully kitted Python, over 100 prospectors fired, only at bright targets. 1 Void Opal core (the only core out of 100 bright ones...), 0 LTD SSD, a couple of 'low' mining laser LTD rocks, all in an LTD Hotspot = 5 LTD's.

The Void Opal core gave 15 chunks total, inc abrasion.... maybe that one should be renamed Void Opal Hostpot?

I enjoy mining (I know, bizarre huh? People said the same thing in Eve... "You enjoy mining? Weirdo!") but if this is what mining is turning into, I might have to install something else before Odyssey drops. Shame.. this used to be a nice waste of my time.


An oversight by FDEV is taking something away from the playerbase having a negative effect because the forum (a small representation of the player base) wants change. Some people just like the numbers go up. I don't think it's a coincidence when at the peak of the LTD brokeness revealed the highest player counts ever.
 
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