So let me get this straight...

I've never had an issue with VR players and they can enjoy the game how they want but the constant whining now means that if Frontier were to categorically say VR Odyssey will never happen I'd laugh.

😆 They'd probably lose their damn minds over it and start breaking things. I wouldn't be surprised at all. Its worse than all the people complaining about their being no ship interiors. At least they have a more or less legitimate grievance, unlike the VR enthusiasts, since there is a chance that the addition of ship interiors can actually add something tangible to the gameplay beyond being "immersed".
 
nobody said you needed to experience it. Fdev is the one claiming this life altering moment for odyssey. Nor would i suggest it's something that will happen more than once or you should go out and drop 1k just to do it once.

Just that the idea that fdev thinks they can deliver it without vr is ridiculous. You're not going to have an armstrong moment using a monitor...by any stretch of the experience.

I dont care one bit if odyssey has vr or not. I find the entire idea of walking around pointless in a game that hasn't bothered completing the core features it has. You're just going to have new ways of being disappointed.

If fdev is trying to create an awe inspiring experience that changes you when stepping out of your ship on a planet, they're just not going to be able to do without vr.

it's not a pro-vr and only vr stance ...or some blind enthusiast view of VR. It's just the reality of rendering things on a screen vs how it is in vr. The monitor will never be able to reproduce how you experience that rendered environment in vr. It will never hit on what your brain does when viewing it thru vr, even if what you're viewing on the monitor is pristine 4k sexiness. They're talking about an experience ...and eliminating the only thing that could have provided it.
 
Last edited:
It would be better in VR, apparently
106487192-happy-couple-in-virtual-reality-headsets-eating-popcorn-together-at-home-1.jpg

Can't argue with that 😏
 
It is subjective as to how each individual experiences the moment

Exactly my point mate, well said.

It seems like it went over the head though, and was perceived as an attack on VR - whereas I was arguing that the misuse of semantics to try and prove a point, was wrong, and dumb!

Like others have said, I've no beef with vr at all. The experience will be different. But that is a subjective opinion, not an objective one! I would probably enjoy it if I used it. But it would be different, right? I can't say it will be better, so others must bow to my opinion! It's just a stupid argument.

Anyway, kudos for making the point in one sentence mate lol! ;)
 
nobody said you needed to experience it. Fdev is the one claiming this life altering moment for odyssey. Nor would i suggest it's something that will happen more than once or you should go out and drop 1k just to do it once.

Just that the idea that fdev thinks they can deliver it without vr is ridiculous. You're not going to have an armstrong moment using a monitor...by any stretch of the experience.

I dont care one bit if odyssey has vr or not. I find the entire idea of walking around pointless in a game that hasn't bothered completing the core features it has. You're just going to have new ways of being disappointed.

If fdev is trying to create an awe inspiring experience that changes you when stepping out of your ship on a planet, they're just not going to be able to do without vr.

it's not a pro-vr and only vr stance ...or some blind enthusiast view of VR. It's just the reality of rendering things on a screen vs how it is in vr. The monitor will never be able to reproduce how you experience that rendered environment in vr. It will never hit on what your brain does when viewing it thru vr, even if what you're viewing on the monitor is pristine 4k sexiness. They're talking about an experience ...and eliminating the only thing that could have provided it.

:unsure: So all this raging is due entirely due to that one small statement about Neil Armstrong?
 
Theres no anti gravity tech in ED you can not walk in space with out an object spinning ,
you can only float in ED universe in ships and space. and static stations..

So walkng would require them to change all the ships flight decks to a magnetic material and give you magnetic boots or change lore to add anti gravity or gravity generators items to all ships...
Stations in ED are spinning so you could actual walk... But if you were ever to break free and go weight less you would take a big hit when landing again...
When you land at stations the ship uses anti spin systems to allow you to land.. Your also clamped in place on landing...

I'm not sure about the lack of anti-gravity. The acceleration of the average Elite ship would turn you into goo, so there must at least be inertial dampers in the game.
 
I'm not sure about the lack of anti-gravity. The acceleration of the average Elite ship would turn you into goo, so there must at least be inertial dampers in the game.

Well, you'll have to take that up with Frontier, years ago they stated quite unequivocally that artificial gravity followed scientifically accurate principals.

There is no magic technology generating gravity on our ships, or anywhere else for that matter, unless Frontier say otherwise.
 
I'm not sure about the lack of anti-gravity. The acceleration of the average Elite ship would turn you into goo, so there must at least be inertial dampers in the game.

:unsure: ???

Well, you'll have to take that up with Frontier, years ago they stated quite unequivocally that artificial gravity followed scientifically accurate principals.

There is no magic technology generating gravity on our ships, or anywhere else for that matter, unless Frontier say otherwise.

:unsure: I'm perplexed by his statement. He calls them inertia dampers, but wikipedia says the correct term for it is "intertia negation", of which no such device actually exists except in science fiction that would create a sort of anti-gravity effect. Its entirely different than inertia dampers.
 
Actually, what it says is the term is missused in science fiction...


:unsure: Yes, but on one hand it gives real world examples of how its applied, but on the other hand the hyperlink given for inertia negation says that "No such process is known to exist in the real world: if current understanding of physics is correct, such a process would be impossible".........🤷‍♂️........Seems pretty clear to me that they are saying its not the same thing as intertia dampers.
 
You're not missing anything.
It's really shaping up to be that lame.
Good luck with the coffee :)

^^^^

This sums it up in one word. Lame.
I can only hope that FDev are holding some major surprise back. But their not.

Perhaps my own perspective with fdev is another word... Disillusioned.

The really sad part of it all is that I'm disillusioned with CIG too...
10min to get into my ship... Really.
15min to fly to a planet... Really.

Long Live Hello Games! (Sheesh, I never thought I'd hear myself say that!)
There is a bunch of stuff wrong with NMS, but frankly I'm enjoying a whole lot more than ED right now!
 
I'd say the big problem here is .... we don't know yet.

Walking in ships? We don't know (despite claims).
VR? They have expressly said they are looking at it, we don't know when/if it might come.

Also we've seen almost nothing.

We don't know.

Life Experience has a purpose... It teaches us what to expect in the future...
 
I'm not sure about the lack of anti-gravity. The acceleration of the average Elite ship would turn you into goo, so there must at least be inertial dampers in the game.

There was proper lore about this stuff, including magboots, inertia and centripetal force in lieu of gravity, but Fdev abandoned it all in the great lore retcon of end 2017/early 2018 because... gameplay.

Cheers,

Drew.
 
Last edited:
All of the ship command bridges exist
I think this is wrong assumption. If jump over Anaconda using SRV and look around from remote you will see what I mean.
Inside engine ships are collection of cube borders. So what you see is trickstery, can't do walks on it.
That's why they have option - redo all ships or do not :D
 
Back
Top Bottom