General / Off-Topic The Covid vaccine must be mandatory ?

[Robin of Spiritwood]

Countries treat their violators differently, but this is ironic:

Eight people caught without masks ordered to dig Covid victims' graves

Eight people in Indonesia were ordered to dig graves for coronavirus victims after they were caught leaving their homes without a face mask, according to reports.

www.standard.co.uk

Nothing could make it clearer, than forced labor on mass graves.
Jakarta is having a high death rate, and getting diggers is tough.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Countries treat their violators differently, but this is ironic:

Eight people caught without masks ordered to dig Covid victims' graves

Eight people in Indonesia were ordered to dig graves for coronavirus victims after they were caught leaving their homes without a face mask, according to reports.

www.standard.co.uk

Nothing could make it clearer, than forced labor on mass graves.
Jakarta is having a high death rate, and getting diggers is tough.

They dig their personal graves

 

[Deleted member 257907]

Pandemrix narcolepsy – Narcolepsy UK

www.narcolepsy.org.uk

 

[Becks]

Pandemrix narcolepsy – Narcolepsy UK

www.narcolepsy.org.uk

That source seems biased, so I went googling for a bit and found this study from 2016 addressing this claim:

https://www.researchgate.net/public...lowing_Adjuvanted_2009_H1N1_Pandemic_Vaccines

This is a direct quote from page 7 of this study:

The SOMNIA study, a multi-country effort that included datafrom sites on four continents, did not find an increase in narcolepsyIRs associated with pH1N1 vaccination campaigns (except inSweden, a previously identified signaling country) nor did it detectsignificant associations between narcolepsy following any adju-vanted pH1N1 vaccines studied. To our knowledge, this is thelargest and most geographically diverse study with the longeststudy period examining the association between adjuvantedpH1N1 vaccines and narcolepsy.

Regarding Sweden, this is a direct quote from page 7-8:

In our study, the IR of narcolepsy increased in Sweden begin-ning in summer 2010 and declined in 2011, especially in children 5–19 years. No similar increase in IR of narcolepsy was observed atany of the other participating sites. However, in Taiwan, a site witha very short lag time between symptom onset and diagnosis of nar-colepsy, a significant increase in IR of narcolepsy was observedduring circulation of wild-type pH1N1 virus but prior to pH1N1vaccination, a phenomenon also reported in China, which hadlow (unadjuvanted) vaccination coverage[31].

Obviously, those two quotes can not summarize the complete study, you're free to read it yourself.

If you can find a newer study, kindly point me to it.

 

[Konan]

To use force against another without their consent is an assault.....good luck trying to poke us all. Best let those who want a vaccination get it....let the rest of us tend to our own business of living and dying.

 

[Stigbob]

To use force against another without their consent is an assault.....good luck trying to poke us all. Best let those who want a vaccination get it....let the rest of us tend to our own business of living and dying.

Every day in hospitals all across the world people who think they know better than the doctors get forced to take their meds .

 

[PRORABBIT67]

 

[Morbad]

To use force against another without their consent is an assault.....good luck trying to poke us all. Best let those who want a vaccination get it....let the rest of us tend to our own business of living and dying.

Yes, being physically compelled to be vaccinated against one's will would be assault, in exactly the same way that taxation is extortion. However, assault, even in the case of a mandatory vaccination campaign, wouldn't be the tool of choice...more extortion would.

Regardless of the specific form of compulsion, the justification would be the same; it's not just your own business affected if you become a carrier of SARS-CoV-2.

 

[Sunyavadin]

"Look, if I want to drive a truck through red lights outside your kids' school, doing 70, that's my business and the government can't FORCE me not to!"

 

[Patrick_68000]

Every day in hospitals all across the world people who think they know better than the doctors get forced to take their meds .

By tens of thousands.

 

[Robin of Spiritwood]

Obviously, if we do not mandate it, there will be failure of the programs.
Lots of disinformed people.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Lots of disinformed people.

Disinformed or do not want to hear ..

 

[Cmdr Nemo]

Obviously, if we do not mandate it, there will be failure of the programs.
Lots of disinformed people.

And even more misinformed.

 

[PRORABBIT67]

 

[Deleted member 257907]

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkhBcLk_8f0

 

[PRORABBIT67]

 

[Robin of Spiritwood]

And even more misinformed.

You have something to say, say it.
Stop with the passive aggressive cowardice.

 

[Stigbob]

You have something to say, say it.
Stop with the passive agressive cowardice.

There's not many anti-vax arguments left to be fair. The anti-vax "science" hasn't passed basic fact checking and we've done the full gamut of the conspiracy spectrum all the way from David Icke and his space lizards through to blatant antisemitism and a supposedly imminent civil war.

Nobodies going to waste time on these objections once we have a properly tested vaccine.

 

[PRORABBIT67]

I admire your faith in the human race but I think the world will have ended before we can breed the stupid out of it.

 

[Stigbob]

I admire your faith in the human race but I think the world will have ended before we can breed the stupid out of it.

Realistically there's two ways it can go for people who are not immunocompromised and refuse once a vaccines properly tested and available.

Blanket banned from a swathe of professions, travel and locations.

Rubber stamped as not competent and vaccinated anyway.