Oh, I see what you mean. But like I said in my previous reply, no. That ability would have to be available to ALL players. Effectively killing off the abilities of the FSD, hyperspace traveling, The engineers and almost all gameplay in general. If one of the superpowers had that ability then they could instantly appear anywhere and wipe out their enemies in an a flash. Thousands of commanders could instantly turn up in Thargoid space and wipe them out before the Thargoids knew what the hell just happened. Gangs of gankers would cause unlimitless chaos possibly causing quite a lot of players to quit the game. Thousands of reasons why I think it's not.
The Quest To Find Raxxla
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Quite possibly. (and such a game breaking event would be unlikely to be allowed).
BUT... if each player 'had to make their own journey' to unlock the ability - and that journey was so challenging / puzzling, then only a very few select 'best of the best' would manage it, then I can still see that being allowed. This would probably mean that each 'journey' would be different enough that no two commanders had the same path to the unlock.
I don't know that I necessarily believe what I've described, but the thought struck me. And I'm a firm believer that you shouldn't self-censor in a brainstorming situation, because although your own thought might be wrong - or at least incomplete - that it may trigger a better thought in another reader.
BUT... if each player 'had to make their own journey' to unlock the ability - and that journey was so challenging / puzzling, then only a very few select 'best of the best' would manage it, then I can still see that being allowed. This would probably mean that each 'journey' would be different enough that no two commanders had the same path to the unlock.
I don't know that I necessarily believe what I've described, but the thought struck me. And I'm a firm believer that you shouldn't self-censor in a brainstorming situation, because although your own thought might be wrong - or at least incomplete - that it may trigger a better thought in another reader.
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Don't get me wrong, you have a great idea. I personally would think if your idea was somehow correct (which it may very well be), then to elaborate on that I would say it might be some kind of stationary construct that players could use to get anywhere in the galaxy. Seems to make more sense to me. I believe all ideas are great, you just have to sift through the possible to the impossible and work on what you find feasible.
Excellent work Cmdr.So, a few things.
When I talked about homers odyssey I had already mapped out a bunch of stuff to travel between, but I was always unsure as
some things get lost in translation, and eroded
Over time. Place names can changed with various telling a of the story.
To compound the issues, Many myths, legend and stories are Rendered into the night sky
so we can easily find star systems from the lore of the ancient Egyptians, ancient Chinese ancient Greeks, Roman Empire and the learned Arabic scholars who kept academia, wisdom And knowledge Alive whilst Europe fell into the dark ages tabooing non-Christian concepts for math, medicin and astronomy.
So We can look for references in our myths and lo-and-behold there is a star system with that name falling inline with ancient Greek hypothesis as well as our confirmation bias.
I even started looking up the current “real-world” Island names for homers The Odyssey
But what about something concrete....
Like a frame-shift wake scanner.
In the Novell DW, Jason RYDER tells his son Alex RYDER about “raxxla”
Alex gets help from Rafe Zetter.
Alex has two children
In the in-game encyclopaedia it stats the children were oftenInitiated in the DW Oberon RYDER and Neptune RYDER who are a part of the DW.
There are a
Limited amount of Ryders in the game,
Some out in Maia / Pleiades
But we have one closer to home.
Liz Ryder who (after a
Connection to a gangster group Eurybia Blue) got kicked out of her old job
At DEVASTATORS AND SON (a family business? One she got disowned by?)
And created her own company Demolition Unlimited with help from Eurybia Blue
And the oddest named space station hovering above, Chris and Sylvia’s paradise hideout.
so we follow the wakes of the Ryder family(?)
all I need now is a wedding barge in Eurybia with a get together of the Ryder family.
oddly enough, when I just flew over there to have a look to see if that is even possible,
I noted I habookmarked system next to Eurybia called Scylla which was a six headed monster Odysseus had to navigate between it and charibdis a whirlpool/vortex
Which can be found in the real-world of the straits of Messina
Scylla - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
(dunk dunk dunk is the sound of my head against the keyboard, either it’s a blatant clue or FDEV is messing with us)
Also dates and when places were colonised ALSO could be a big blatant clue.
I’m not a big lore/timeline guru.
but the first recorded mention of Raxxla is tornqvists story from 2296
Raxxla is of alien origin.
The colony at leesti was established 2413 (according to the tourist beacon)
First contact with the thargoids was at lave in 3125
Soontill Relics were discovered PRior to 3300 (when the game started) but when exactly???
Could we find a link between first frame shift drives and colony dates?
Any factions with the Zetter family name?
It ought to be remembered that there is a level of uncertainty with our tinfoily. If there is a path to Raxxla it could be very straight forward, and that we have embellished upon it with our own imaginations, to the point where we cant see past our own bias.
One step on from your work I would propose someone map these locations and try and draw together all correlations, or even simply draw a line between them all to see what it physically looks like, is there a pattern, does it point to someplace else, are there gaps?
If I ever find the time Id love to, but not sure when. I did something similar years ago regarding certain stars that spelt out Raxxla within a spiralling pattern. But you get the drift.
Great work - keep it up 07
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So I dug up a copy of the story and skimmed over it the last couple of hours and made a compilation of the 18 locations Odysseus takes,from his home and back again.
Sadly it's a translation from a Later Roman text, so the story is about the Hero Ulysses not the Greek Odysseus
The sea-god is Neptune and not Poseidon. The goddes who helps Ulysses is menerva and not the greek Goddess Athena and so on and so forth.
Athena
BOOK IX Ulysses tells his story
0 : Ithaca (home)
1 : Troy (10 year long siege until he does that Trojan Horse thing, yeah he's THAT guy!)
2 : On the way back home, hold up at Ismarus, city of the Cicons for supplies when some local trouble spills over and he loses a few red-shirts on the way back to the boat.
3 : Struggles on the Seas around Cape Malea and Island of Cythera pushed by heavy winds/seas
4: Makes camp on the Island of lotus eaters (the Lotus plant, some of his men get hooked and don't want to come back. Just say no to drugs kids!)
5: Sails onto the Land of the Cyclopes, Polyphemus (kills and picks up a grudge from old Neptune/Poseidon
BOOK X
6. Comes to Aeoli island, Aeolus Son of Hippotas (they get blown back here but get sent away the second time )
7. Lamus, City of Telepylus, Laestrygonians (a rocky fortress and they did some battle)
8. Aeaean island, Goddess Circe (trickster witch ) turns some of his men into pigs
BOOK XI
9. River Oceanus, city of Cimmerians to chat with Theban prophet Teiresias who is dead by the way
10. House of Hades, house of the dead, which is dead easy to find, it's where the rivers Pyriphlegethon, Cocytus (a branch of the Styx) flow into Acheron, and then they resurrect a whole bunch of people who had died along the way and are Relevant to Ullysees, like his mum......
BOOK XII 114
11. Annnd Back down the River Oceanus to the Aeaean island to get tricked by the Goddess Circe
12. Past Island of the two Sirens
13. Through the Wandering Rocky straits of Scylla(6 headed beast) and Charybdis (whirlpool). They skirt past the Scylla and Ulysees loosed a bunch more Red-Shirts from his boat, and then the pop back onboard once the helmsman navigates past Charybdis.
14. onto the Island of Hyperion, the Sun God where they just sail....?
15. Sea-nymphs cave (just a place they hung out whilst at Hyperions place, so Ulysees can reiterate to his men not to kill the (sacred) cattle onboard less they offend the sung god. So as soon as his back is turned his right hand man, convinces the rest of the crew to kill the cattle. bye the rest of the red-shirts
16. Back to Charybdis, Sun god blasts the boat back west with bad weather and Ulysees managed to jump onto an overhanging branch to avoid Charybdis and drops down after the swell and makes a swim for it before Scylla gets the wiser that he was back again.
17. 10 days later he winds up at the Ogygian island of Calypso daughter of Atlas, (spinster trickster witch ) . The Ogygian sea is a weird godlike anomaly of a place, it's nowhere and is surrounded by endless sea, described as the navel of all the worlds waters,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogygia#cite_note-5 .......
the wiki claims a cartographer tries to have a stab at where Ogyian is "At another instance he Polybius suppresses statements. For Homer says also, 'Now after the ship had left the river-stream of Oceanus',[4] and, 'In the island of Ogygia, where is the navel of the sea',[5] where the daughter of Atlas lives; and again, regarding the Phaiakians, 'Far apart we live in the wash of the waves, the farthermost of men, and no other mortals are conversant with us.'[6] All these clearly suggest that he composed them to take place in the Atlantic Ocean." (yeah there are other hints it's the legendary place of Atlantis, which actually is in Libya and is south of Gibralta (as stated by all) but it looks like it got pushed above ground 12,000 years back. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richat_Structure but that's another mystery and story for another time.)
my text version says
"It is an island covered with forest, in the very middle of the sea, and a goddess lives there, daughter of the magician Atlas, who looks after the bottom of the ocean, and carries the great columns that keep heaven and earth asunder."
But this makes Calypso a Witch, since she is daughter of a magician, Atlas who lives at the bottom of the ocean who's job it is to keeps heaven and earth assunder.....
so it does sound like an axis mundi, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_mundi
or Omphalus Rift, if you will
Book I and V
Anyway, 7 years later he makes a break for it, with Minerva's intervention....
18. He Makes landfall in Scheria, the land of the Phaeacians, where he starts to recount the a few books later.
BOOK XIII
19. Finally home, Ithaca, where he lands in the harbour of the nymphs near the wooded mountain Neritum.
If we take the story analogy forwards as a roadmap to Raxxla,
Okay, so we just got to translate that stuff into the original greek Odyssey and not the above Roman Version of Ulysees.
Then we find the location in-game, I guess Calypso Island is raxxala, the central way-point in the sea of Ogygia, which stands between the heavens and the earth because I couldn't find any reference in-game
as I said Liz Ryder live next does to Scylla....just saying.
I can’t see how the “key” is The journey itself? And somehow after the return from the Helios system back through Scylla, we drift somehow like Odysseus into the witches reach (rolley eyes.... sorry I had to put that there
)
But then Hints could be there to be irritating
But I did see something myself, (near Helios) in witch space when I flew from Shamo to Kuk (which by coincidence parallel to Scylla to
Helios), I saw a squiggly yellow/green orb of light).Someone had posted it in the main discussion forum, it’s was seen near the founders system, and out in the formadime
Rift,some Noted the whispers stopped.
now it probably is Just glitches In the loading screen, especially after the 3.3 update with the addition of the Colour grading filters(?)
Some items don’t initiate properly?
but maybe not?
The Internet Classics Archive | The Odyssey by Homer
The Odyssey by Homer, part of the Internet Classics Archive
classics.mit.edu
The sea-god is Neptune and not Poseidon. The goddes who helps Ulysses is menerva and not the greek Goddess Athena and so on and so forth.
Athena
BOOK IX Ulysses tells his story
0 : Ithaca (home)
1 : Troy (10 year long siege until he does that Trojan Horse thing, yeah he's THAT guy!)
2 : On the way back home, hold up at Ismarus, city of the Cicons for supplies when some local trouble spills over and he loses a few red-shirts on the way back to the boat.
3 : Struggles on the Seas around Cape Malea and Island of Cythera pushed by heavy winds/seas
4: Makes camp on the Island of lotus eaters (the Lotus plant, some of his men get hooked and don't want to come back. Just say no to drugs kids!)
5: Sails onto the Land of the Cyclopes, Polyphemus (kills and picks up a grudge from old Neptune/Poseidon
BOOK X
6. Comes to Aeoli island, Aeolus Son of Hippotas (they get blown back here but get sent away the second time )
7. Lamus, City of Telepylus, Laestrygonians (a rocky fortress and they did some battle)
8. Aeaean island, Goddess Circe (trickster witch ) turns some of his men into pigs
BOOK XI
9. River Oceanus, city of Cimmerians to chat with Theban prophet Teiresias who is dead by the way
10. House of Hades, house of the dead, which is dead easy to find, it's where the rivers Pyriphlegethon, Cocytus (a branch of the Styx) flow into Acheron, and then they resurrect a whole bunch of people who had died along the way and are Relevant to Ullysees, like his mum......
BOOK XII 114
11. Annnd Back down the River Oceanus to the Aeaean island to get tricked by the Goddess Circe
12. Past Island of the two Sirens
13. Through the Wandering Rocky straits of Scylla(6 headed beast) and Charybdis (whirlpool). They skirt past the Scylla and Ulysees loosed a bunch more Red-Shirts from his boat, and then the pop back onboard once the helmsman navigates past Charybdis.
14. onto the Island of Hyperion, the Sun God where they just sail....?
15. Sea-nymphs cave (just a place they hung out whilst at Hyperions place, so Ulysees can reiterate to his men not to kill the (sacred) cattle onboard less they offend the sung god. So as soon as his back is turned his right hand man, convinces the rest of the crew to kill the cattle. bye the rest of the red-shirts
16. Back to Charybdis, Sun god blasts the boat back west with bad weather and Ulysees managed to jump onto an overhanging branch to avoid Charybdis and drops down after the swell and makes a swim for it before Scylla gets the wiser that he was back again.
17. 10 days later he winds up at the Ogygian island of Calypso daughter of Atlas, (spinster trickster witch ) . The Ogygian sea is a weird godlike anomaly of a place, it's nowhere and is surrounded by endless sea, described as the navel of all the worlds waters,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogygia#cite_note-5 .......
the wiki claims a cartographer tries to have a stab at where Ogyian is "At another instance he Polybius suppresses statements. For Homer says also, 'Now after the ship had left the river-stream of Oceanus',[4] and, 'In the island of Ogygia, where is the navel of the sea',[5] where the daughter of Atlas lives; and again, regarding the Phaiakians, 'Far apart we live in the wash of the waves, the farthermost of men, and no other mortals are conversant with us.'[6] All these clearly suggest that he composed them to take place in the Atlantic Ocean." (yeah there are other hints it's the legendary place of Atlantis, which actually is in Libya and is south of Gibralta (as stated by all) but it looks like it got pushed above ground 12,000 years back. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richat_Structure but that's another mystery and story for another time.)
my text version says
"It is an island covered with forest, in the very middle of the sea, and a goddess lives there, daughter of the magician Atlas, who looks after the bottom of the ocean, and carries the great columns that keep heaven and earth asunder."
But this makes Calypso a Witch, since she is daughter of a magician, Atlas who lives at the bottom of the ocean who's job it is to keeps heaven and earth assunder.....
so it does sound like an axis mundi, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_mundi
or Omphalus Rift, if you will
Book I and V
Anyway, 7 years later he makes a break for it, with Minerva's intervention....
18. He Makes landfall in Scheria, the land of the Phaeacians, where he starts to recount the a few books later.
BOOK XIII
19. Finally home, Ithaca, where he lands in the harbour of the nymphs near the wooded mountain Neritum.
If we take the story analogy forwards as a roadmap to Raxxla,
Okay, so we just got to translate that stuff into the original greek Odyssey and not the above Roman Version of Ulysees.
Then we find the location in-game, I guess Calypso Island is raxxala, the central way-point in the sea of Ogygia, which stands between the heavens and the earth because I couldn't find any reference in-game
as I said Liz Ryder live next does to Scylla....just saying.
I can’t see how the “key” is The journey itself? And somehow after the return from the Helios system back through Scylla, we drift somehow like Odysseus into the witches reach (rolley eyes.... sorry I had to put that there
)But then Hints could be there to be irritating
But I did see something myself, (near Helios) in witch space when I flew from Shamo to Kuk (which by coincidence parallel to Scylla to
Helios), I saw a squiggly yellow/green orb of light).Someone had posted it in the main discussion forum, it’s was seen near the founders system, and out in the formadime
Rift,some Noted the whispers stopped.
now it probably is Just glitches In the loading screen, especially after the 3.3 update with the addition of the Colour grading filters(?)
Some items don’t initiate properly?
but maybe not?
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Think its a possibility. This was where I had got up to regards this train of thought.So I dug up a copy of the story and skimmed over it the last couple of hours and made a compilation of the 18 locations Odysseus takes,from his home and back again.
Sadly it's a translation from a Later Roman text, so the story is about the Hero Ulysses not the Greek OdysseusThe Internet Classics Archive | The Odyssey by Homer
The Odyssey by Homer, part of the Internet Classics Archiveclassics.mit.edu
The sea-god is Neptune and not Poseidon. The goddes who helps Ulysses is menerva and not the greek Goddess Athena and so on and so forth.
Athena
BOOK IX Ulysses tells his story
0 : Ithaca (home)
1 : Troy (10 year long siege until he does that Trojan Horse thing, yeah he's THAT guy!)
2 : On the way back home, hold up at Ismarus, city of the Cicons for supplies when some local trouble spills over and he loses a few red-shirts on the way back to the boat.
3 : Struggles on the Seas around Cape Malea and Island of Cythera pushed by heavy winds/seas
4: Makes camp on the Island of lotus eaters (the Lotus plant, some of his men get hooked and don't want to come back. Just say no to drugs kids!)
5: Sails onto the Land of the Cyclopes, Polyphemus (kills and picks up a grudge from old Neptune/Poseidon
BOOK X
6. Comes to Aeoli island, Aeolus Son of Hippotas (they get blown back here but get sent away the second time )
7. Lamus, City of Telepylus, Laestrygonians (a rocky fortress and they did some battle)
8. Aeaean island, Goddess Circe (trickster witch ) turns some of his men into pigs
BOOK XI
9. River Oceanus, city of Cimmerians to chat with Theban prophet Teiresias who is dead by the way
10. House of Hades, house of the dead, which is dead easy to find, it's where the rivers Pyriphlegethon, Cocytus (a branch of the Styx) flow into Acheron, and then they resurrect a whole bunch of people who had died along the way and are Relevant to Ullysees, like his mum......
BOOK XII 114
11. Annnd Back down the River Oceanus to the Aeaean island to get tricked by the Goddess Circe
12. Past Island of the two Sirens
13. Through the Wandering Rocky straits of Scylla(6 headed beast) and Charybdis (whirlpool). They skirt past the Scylla and Ulysees loosed a bunch more Red-Shirts from his boat, and then the pop back onboard once the helmsman navigates past Charybdis.
14. onto the Island of Hyperion, the Sun God where they just sail....?
15. Sea-nymphs cave (just a place they hung out whilst at Hyperions place, so Ulysees can reiterate to his men not to kill the (sacred) cattle onboard less they offend the sung god. So as soon as his back is turned his right hand man, convinces the rest of the crew to kill the cattle. bye the rest of the red-shirts
16. Back to Charybdis, Sun god blasts the boat back west with bad weather and Ulysees managed to jump onto an overhanging branch to avoid Charybdis and drops down after the swell and makes a swim for it before Scylla gets the wiser that he was back again.
17. 10 days later he winds up at the Ogygian island of Calypso daughter of Atlas, (spinster trickster witch ) . The Ogygian sea is a weird godlike anomaly of a place, it's nowhere and is surrounded by endless sea, described as the navel of all the worlds waters,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogygia#cite_note-5 .......
the wiki claims a cartographer tries to have a stab at where Ogyian is "At another instance he Polybius suppresses statements. For Homer says also, 'Now after the ship had left the river-stream of Oceanus',[4] and, 'In the island of Ogygia, where is the navel of the sea',[5] where the daughter of Atlas lives; and again, regarding the Phaiakians, 'Far apart we live in the wash of the waves, the farthermost of men, and no other mortals are conversant with us.'[6] All these clearly suggest that he composed them to take place in the Atlantic Ocean." (yeah there are other hints it's the legendary place of Atlantis, which actually is in Libya and is south of Gibralta (as stated by all) but it looks like it got pushed above ground 12,000 years back. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richat_Structure but that's another mystery and story for another time.)
my text version says
"It is an island covered with forest, in the very middle of the sea, and a goddess lives there, daughter of the magician Atlas, who looks after the bottom of the ocean, and carries the great columns that keep heaven and earth asunder."
But this makes Calypso a Witch, since she is daughter of a magician, Atlas who lives at the bottom of the ocean who's job it is to keeps heaven and earth assunder.....
so it does sound like an axis mundi, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_mundi
or Omphalus Rift, if you will
Book I and V
Anyway, 7 years later he makes a break for it, with Minerva's intervention....
18. He Makes landfall in Scheria, the land of the Phaeacians, where he starts to recount the a few books later.
BOOK XIII
19. Finally home, Ithaca, where he lands in the harbour of the nymphs near the wooded mountain Neritum.
If we take the story analogy forwards as a roadmap to Raxxla,
Okay, so we just got to translate that stuff into the original greek Odyssey and not the above Roman Version of Ulysees.
Then we find the location in-game, I guess Calypso Island is raxxala, the central way-point in the sea of Ogygia, which stands between the heavens and the earth because I couldn't find any reference in-game
as I said Liz Ryder live next does to Scylla....just saying.
But then Hints could be there to be irritating
The Quest To Find Raxxla
The Ysidril Tree, right? Seems clue like to me, and to many others. So after a tip earlier in this thread, I have been reading "Islands in the Sky: The Four-Dimensional Journey of Odysseus through Space and Time" Might have to have a few reads of it to fully understand but.... mythological...
DB said Raxxla has been in-game since the gamma, which comes after beta! You can’t rely on anything from the beta test area as a clue to Raxxla’s location.
You can download a free copy of The Odyssey from Project Gutenberg!
You’re assuming that humanity’s expansion would have been by a spherical shell. I think that’s not quite right. It would have averaged out to be spherical, but would have actually occurred as a spiky “morning star weapon” shape, since they would have not immediately travelled to uninteresting places like LYT systems, but would have emphasised GKM systems for colonisation and any scoop-able systems for travel waypoints to reach them, filling in the gaps later as a much lower priority (& missing out uninteresting places which is why so much of the bubble had unexplored systems).
It is possible that we are barking up the wrong odyssey, with the Odyssey.
The quest for Raxxla was after all originally, the quest of Jason Ryder and his band of merry Dark Wheelers.
In the context of Greek mythology this probably corresponds better to Jason and the Argonauts and the quest for the Golden Fleece.
Their ship the Argos is neatly depicted in the sky, as the Argos Navis constellation. Argos Navis is now split into the three constellations Carina (the hull), Puppis (the poop deck) and Vela (the sails). Seen from earth, this is Guardian space.
The quest for Raxxla was after all originally, the quest of Jason Ryder and his band of merry Dark Wheelers.
In the context of Greek mythology this probably corresponds better to Jason and the Argonauts and the quest for the Golden Fleece.
Their ship the Argos is neatly depicted in the sky, as the Argos Navis constellation. Argos Navis is now split into the three constellations Carina (the hull), Puppis (the poop deck) and Vela (the sails). Seen from earth, this is Guardian space.
Literally just heard on the news that the IG Noble prize has gone to team who gave Helium to an Alligator to make it grunt in a higher pitch, you couldnt make it up!
possibility, chance, likelihood, probability, almost certainly
Define mystery and define simple
There will be no clues = there is no 'mystery' not in a treasure hunt sense, there is nothing to find but Raxxla itself
Simple - Its just there, wherever it is, 1 in 400bn systems and its on one of them, explanations for why its there can come after if needed. Nothing will lead to it
Define mystery and define simple
There will be no clues = there is no 'mystery' not in a treasure hunt sense, there is nothing to find but Raxxla itself
Simple - Its just there, wherever it is, 1 in 400bn systems and its on one of them, explanations for why its there can come after if needed. Nothing will lead to it
Literally just heard on the news that the IG Noble prize has gone to team who gave Helium to an Alligator to make it grunt
possibility, chance, likelihood, probability,almost certainly
Define mystery and define simple
There will be no clues = there is no 'mystery' not in a treasure hunt sense, there is nothing to find but Raxxla itself
Simple - Its just there, wherever it is, 1 in 400bn systems and its on one of them, explanations for why its there can come after if needed. Nothing will lead to it
Thanks I've since edited my post for lax gramma due to day time martini.
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It is possible that we are barking up the wrong odyssey, with the Odyssey.
The quest for Raxxla was after all originally, the quest of Jason Ryder and his band of merry Dark Wheelers.
In the context of Greek mythology this probably corresponds better to Jason and the Argonauts and the quest for the Golden Fleece.
Their ship the Argos is neatly depicted in the sky, as the Argos Navis constellation. Argos Navis is now split into the three constellations Carina (the hull), Puppis (the poop deck) and Vela (the sails). Seen from earth, this is Guardian space.
You’re reading my mind!
STOP IT!!
After doing a tour of 6 systems Wednesday that I interpreted from the Odyssey just this afternoon I did a tour of 6 systems that I interpreted from the Argonautica....
Hasn’t produced any DW invitation so far....
P.s. did you report the sysmap anomalies we found as a potential graphics bug (to see what the FD reaction would be?)
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Literally just heard on the news that the IG Noble prize has gone to team who gave Helium to an Alligator to make it grunt in a higher pitch, you couldnt make it up!
possibility, chance, likelihood, probability,almost certainly
Define mystery and define simple
There will be no clues = there is no 'mystery' not in a treasure hunt sense, there is nothing to find but Raxxla itself
Simple - Its just there, wherever it is, 1 in 400bn systems and its on one of them, explanations for why its there can come after if needed. Nothing will lead to it
they were just trying to come up with a snappy way of producing party balloons!
Unless Raxxla is within something else! I was struck as I just ended today’s gameplay by the resemblance of the Raxxla codex logo to the guiding lights and hub structure within a station. Wonder if you find this feature within a station (they’ve been in-game from outset) that matches the logo whether that would indicate you’ve found the right system, or whether you “enter” the structure (i.e. a disguised omphalos)?
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That’s almost my reasoning as well, it could be an unremarkable moon or asteroid, as the codex states openly for all eyes to see
so big difference between The gamma and the beta was stellar forge.The beta was conducted with a limited amount of test systems 500
Star systems (and no raxxla
Apparently) with the gamma came the 4.3billion stars of the galaxy And asteroid mining it i was recall correctly?
So the tools at our desposal att launch are ALL we need to find raxxla.
Not in a a fancy station interior on a planets surface (orbital maybe - I did like that suggestion), or discovetable by an srv,
But rather something that cane be found by Discover scanners and Visual confirmation.
But in this I include all those fiddly asteroid clusters which sap my enthusiasm for finding raxxla.
Because if one was to follow the star systems of “The odyssey”, my bet is, you got to follow it vi the economical routes which are standard for all ship types, and scan every damned asteroid cluster, ring and every USS that pops up, ignore installations and planets surfaces and deep core mining. Just the basic tools we had at launch count.
I intend to do the broad strokes first.
But “Maybe” there is a long and detailed List of specific system scans One needs to Registered which finally unlocks a permit for raxxla(?)
so big difference between The gamma and the beta was stellar forge.The beta was conducted with a limited amount of test systems 500
Star systems (and no raxxla
Apparently) with the gamma came the 4.3billion stars of the galaxy And asteroid mining it i was recall correctly?
So the tools at our desposal att launch are ALL we need to find raxxla.
Not in a a fancy station interior on a planets surface (orbital maybe - I did like that suggestion), or discovetable by an srv,
But rather something that cane be found by Discover scanners and Visual confirmation.
But in this I include all those fiddly asteroid clusters which sap my enthusiasm for finding raxxla.
Because if one was to follow the star systems of “The odyssey”, my bet is, you got to follow it vi the economical routes which are standard for all ship types, and scan every damned asteroid cluster, ring and every USS that pops up, ignore installations and planets surfaces and deep core mining. Just the basic tools we had at launch count.
I intend to do the broad strokes first.
But “Maybe” there is a long and detailed List of specific system scans One needs to Registered which finally unlocks a permit for raxxla(?)
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May I quickly say Boff'in that your insights ( and humour ) have been fantastic. Thank you and I am investigating your theories into my own discovery path.That’s almost my reasoning as well, it could be an unremarkable moon or asteroid, as the codex states openly for all eyes to see
so big difference between The gamma and the beta was stellar forge.The beta was conducted with a limited amount of test systems 500
Star systems (and no raxxla
Apparently) with the gamma came the 4.3billion stars of the galaxy And asteroid mining it i was recall correctly?
So the tools at our desposal att launch are ALL we need to find raxxla.
Not in a station exterior a planets surface, or discovetable by an srv,
But rather something that cane be found by Discover scanners and Visual confirmation.
But in this I include all those fiddly asteroid clusters which sap my enthusiasm for finding raxxla.
Because if one was to follow the star systems of “The odyssey”, my bet is, you got to follow it vi the economical routes which are standard for all ship types, and scan every damned asteroid cluster, ring and every USS that pops up, ignore installations and planets surfaces and deep core mining. Just the basic tools we had at launch count.
I intend to do the broad strokes first.
But “Maybe” there is a long and detailed List of specific system scans One needs to Registered which finally unlocks a permit for raxxla(?)
At the start Frontier Developments may not have taken the "Raxxla" situation very seriously and it was a discoverable system / body / station / space unicorn / alcoholic beverage in game. Then later they changed it into something more substantial like the Zarura, possibly locking it behind a permit system. Unlockable by a 'journey' that curtails gaining ranks, exploration and missions to gain attention from the Dark Wheel.
Atm I am ( hopefully ) getting such attention from TDW gaining allied statues with such corporations and entities that I feel they would have their eyes on. Also I explore thoroughly every system I pass through as much to my ability. It's slow but rather enjoyable. I am in no rush.
Btw, your 'avatar' reminds me of an old game Mercenary on the good old ZX Spectrum. Aaaah, memories
The idea that it's not an a planetary surface is erroneous.
You can see a lot of surface details from orbit. There is no reason to believe that it couldn't be placed on a surface we can't reach. The only thing Fdev said was that you could find raxxla... Not that you could visit it.
It's also extremely unlikely there are any connections to mythology or books in regards to where raxxla is. Not only would it not make any sense in lore (since mythology and thus the names of stars etc are earth centric and raxxla is decidedly not human-made ....but fdev has stated that there would be no clues to raxxla).
Raxxla is meant to be a needle in the haystack blind search that has a good chance of never coming to fruition. It would be immensely stupid of fdev to not draw out it's discovery for as long as possible...if not indefinitely. Finding it is not in anyone's benefit. The search is.
I just keep my eyes out for anything obviously weird as I jump randomly from system to system. That's no better odds than someone spending a lot of effort trying to find connections and clues where there are none. Though, if it's in a roid cluster....the only way it'll be found is if fdev leaks it. nobody's checking all those.
You can see a lot of surface details from orbit. There is no reason to believe that it couldn't be placed on a surface we can't reach. The only thing Fdev said was that you could find raxxla... Not that you could visit it.
It's also extremely unlikely there are any connections to mythology or books in regards to where raxxla is. Not only would it not make any sense in lore (since mythology and thus the names of stars etc are earth centric and raxxla is decidedly not human-made ....but fdev has stated that there would be no clues to raxxla).
Raxxla is meant to be a needle in the haystack blind search that has a good chance of never coming to fruition. It would be immensely stupid of fdev to not draw out it's discovery for as long as possible...if not indefinitely. Finding it is not in anyone's benefit. The search is.
I just keep my eyes out for anything obviously weird as I jump randomly from system to system. That's no better odds than someone spending a lot of effort trying to find connections and clues where there are none. Though, if it's in a roid cluster....the only way it'll be found is if fdev leaks it. nobody's checking all those.
Mercenary, Bingo.May I quickly say Boff'in that your insights ( and humour ) have been fantastic. Thank you and I am investigating your theories into my own discovery path.
At the start Frontier Developments may not have taken the "Raxxla" situation very seriously and it was a discoverable system / body / station / space unicorn / alcoholic beverage in game. Then later they changed it into something more substantial like the Zarura, possibly locking it behind a permit system. Unlockable by a 'journey' that curtails gaining ranks, exploration and missions to gain attention from the Dark Wheel.
Atm I am ( hopefully ) getting such attention from TDW gaining allied statues with such corporations and entities that I feel they would have their eyes on. Also I explore thoroughly every system I pass through as much to my ability. It's slow but rather enjoyable. I am in no rush.
Btw, your 'avatar' reminds me of an old game Mercenary on the good old ZX Spectrum. Aaaah, memories
one of my favourite games on the c64. Massive open world sandbox, mysteries and puzzles.
A thought occurred to me this morning (it happens occasionally) whilst in the shower
DB video “ED has a story that "embraces all the players"
m.youtube.com/watch?v=gDh9G1gDgMU
he talks about an invitation to join a secret organisation as being an event that happens at a certain point in a player’s progression/journey through the game.
"You know, if you get invited to join a secret organisation, that can happen to lots of people. And the great thing is, if it doesn't happen to you you'll go "oh, why have they not invited me?" But then that's exciting, you'll think "oh well, ok, I did kill that policeman the other day, maybe I need to get my reputation a bit higher."
The thought was that if you know other people have been invited.....
It’s not a very secret organisation!
DB video “ED has a story that "embraces all the players"
m.youtube.com/watch?v=gDh9G1gDgMU
he talks about an invitation to join a secret organisation as being an event that happens at a certain point in a player’s progression/journey through the game.
"You know, if you get invited to join a secret organisation, that can happen to lots of people. And the great thing is, if it doesn't happen to you you'll go "oh, why have they not invited me?" But then that's exciting, you'll think "oh well, ok, I did kill that policeman the other day, maybe I need to get my reputation a bit higher."
The thought was that if you know other people have been invited.....
It’s not a very secret organisation!