I wanna ask a huge favor of the game devs for the nonbinary community
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You may have noticed that as societies embrace identity politics as being the sole vehicle that governs interpersonal engagement, they become anything but more polite respectful or stable.
No. But our whole way of detecting, measuring and talking abut it is. Even our way of splitting genotypes/karotypes into those six categories.
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Answer my ugly question Jigs, then we can talk, if not, no thanks.
How often are people asking your gender in chat?
I have never been asked my gender.
Truth is, people don't care about you or what you want to call yourself. I get that lots of people have perhaps given you the illusion that it's in some way important, or is something you need to make people aware of, and that of course anyone who doesn't clap your bravery is a bigot...
But the truth is. I don't care, no one cares, and people care even less on a video-game. You're not special, you're r not a snowflake, no body owes you anything and when people are nice and. Polite that's a bonus
Gender probably comes up far more than we traditional binary types think it does, we're just unaware of it because traditional society caters to us. When the world doesn't cater to you, you're probably far more aware of it.
It's like, I'm left-handed, the inconveniences I've faced over my life and in my job (like counting cheques or money) sticks in my mind wouldn't even register with a right-handed person (for whom the world is built).
If non-binary people tell me there's an inconvenience and there are issues, I'm inclined to believe them, just because my experience doesn't render me personally aware of a situation doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
It's like, I'm left-handed, the inconveniences I've faced over my life and in my job (like counting cheques or money) sticks in my mind wouldn't even register with a right-handed person (for whom the world is built).
If non-binary people tell me there's an inconvenience and there are issues, I'm inclined to believe them, just because my experience doesn't render me personally aware of a situation doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Never said that people specifically ask me my gender but just assume my gender is male off the get go. Please read the rest of the thread instead of strawmanning
Why is this thread 6 pages long of people having a problem with it if none of them care? If nobody cared theyd just go 'OK no skin off my nose, which Res Site we hitting?'
I do have a real concern about this. The lobby which demands tolerance so often turns out to be intolerant itself. With present trends I'm actually slightly worried that slipping up over a pronoun will eventually become a criminal offence, and I'll do it and be hauled into court.
CMDR is a completely gender neutral title - it is up to the player how their avatar might reflect how they wish to be perceived in game - and a closed helmet avatar does not disclose any bias.
Whilst I do appreciate RL has a multitude of preferences to express, this is a game that has, to date, managed to remain 'neutral' from RL issues, it would be 'nice' for RL to remain exactly there, not intruding on what is, after all, a fantasy spaceship flying game where whoever we might encounter is either a NPC or CMDR.
Whilst I do appreciate RL has a multitude of preferences to express, this is a game that has, to date, managed to remain 'neutral' from RL issues, it would be 'nice' for RL to remain exactly there, not intruding on what is, after all, a fantasy spaceship flying game where whoever we might encounter is either a NPC or CMDR.
There is a difference in making a mistake, asking to be corrected and moving on to just plain rejecting it because you think it is stupid.
Mind Blown! This concept is just impossible to understand. If it hasnt happened to me doesnt mean it hasnt happened to anyone else? Nope, just cant get it, sorry.
I'm not strawmanning.
So what if people assume your a dude?
Your are not getting treated any different because of people's perception of your gender.
What it sounds like, is that your getting treated like everyone else, but you don't want that, you want to be treated like your somehow special, because you have been convinced that a narrow and some would say deeply dubious doctrine applies to you
I know, right?
One of the advantages of CMDR / Commander is that is quite universal in chat. However if you wanted to display pronouns there are few places to make this apparent. You could maybe have an option to add a label after your commander name in chat perhaps, but beyond that I can't think of any other places others can see to make it useful. And in that case, you could just as easily do it yourself now.
I'm left-handed too - yet manage very well to exist quite happily in a right-handed biased world...
The obvious question I should ask of those who have never had a personal conversation with me, is "What gender might I be?" Is my avatar a true representation of myself, or a 'blind' to 'fit in' with a predominantly male playerbase?
Anyone?
The obvious question I should ask of those who have never had a personal conversation with me, is "What gender might I be?" Is my avatar a true representation of myself, or a 'blind' to 'fit in' with a predominantly male playerbase?
Anyone?
Right. Thought crimes are just fine. Great stuff buddy....
Yes. This.
Some people want us to know how very much they care about not caring.
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