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Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12
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Nah, just 3.13.1 PTU is all, I haven't bothered with it so far.
It actually works out not bad...considering it's EA. £80 per year and I get everything EA has ever released (ultimate editions) as far back as the Ultima series as well as brand new ultimate editions of new stuff 3 days before general release without paying anything for it. If it's crap, I just uninstall it after trying it. For that £80 this year I've had both recent Star Wars titles (squadrons and the Jedi thing) FIFA 21, A plague tale innocence, Battlefield 5, Anthem and some other stuff...all with complete DLC content and season passes. The upcoming Mass Effect trilogy enhanced editions are also included when they're released... does it for me
I'm a bit of a sucker for the recent influx of subscription based platforms on PC though, I've been a pro member of EA play back as far as Origin access 10 years ago. I also sub to Ubisoft's Connect+ and MS gamepass ultimate. I like to try out or play a lot of games of various types and genres so they kinda suit the way I do my gaming...not for everyone of course.
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It actually works out not bad...considering it's EA. £80 per year and I get everything EA has ever released (ultimate editions) as far back as the Ultima series as well as brand new ultimate editions of new stuff 3 days before general release without paying anything for it. If it's crap, I just uninstall it after trying it. For that £80 this year I've had both recent Star Wars titles (squadrons and the Jedi thing) FIFA 21, A plague tale innocence, Battlefield 5, Anthem and some other stuff...all with complete DLC content and season passes. The upcoming Mass Effect trilogy enhanced editions are also included when they're released... does it for me
I'm a bit of a sucker for the recent influx of subscription based platforms on PC though, I've been a pro member of EA play back as far as Origin access 10 years ago. I also sub to Ubisoft's Connect+ and MS gamepass ultimate. I like to try out or play a lot of games of various types and genres so they kinda suit the way I do my gaming...not for everyone of course.
Sure, if you have nothing against EA or their practices then it perhaps makes sense.
The official line is that we're playing a branch created a while before the alpha started. Almost all bug fixes and optimizations are being performed on the trunk.
But on May 19th it will be released and everyone can judge and review! Unlike the other game.
Keyboard and mouse.
I'm a gamer, not a politician or some Mr Angry style interweb activist...EA produce some games I actually like, I buy them...it's as simple as thatSure, if you have nothing against EA or their practices then it perhaps makes sense.
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We all judge and review the 'other game' every time we post on here...who cares what some 3rd rate PC game review would likely say? At least we're for the most part pretty honest in our assessment and views of it, whether we play it or not.
Star Citizen, it's farcical management and almost criminally obtuse financial quagmire... along with it's glacial...nay, even geologically slow development due entirely to those primary contributing factors are a universal internet meme outside of the closeted ranks of it's most staunch or fanatical supporters...A metacritic score, however glowing or dire it could possibly be, isn't going to change that...ever
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TLDR- ED, the DLC EDO and NMS can potentially 'up' their game, but it'd much harder for SC to 'lower' their game.
When you say 'upping', the only things that that can relate to are graphics, animations, and being able to get in and out of the seat, or sit on chairs.
I dont make games, but from what I've seen it'll be much easier for ED, or even NMS, to 'up' their games, than SC to 'lower??' their game. ED runs, and for me, it runs well. So does NMS. For those games to 'up' their games, they can refine their models, add a bit of dust to their galaxies, ala Star Wars, and they become as good as real. But maybe they cant, or it messes up the whole game. For animations same thing. What you see is only a few animations in ED, as well as NMS. The ones they do have, though, work and maybe they could add more, but again, maybe they cant or it breaks everything else. And also, the only thing that really matters...being able to sit and stand seamlessly. Maybe EDO and NMS could add that, but again, it's possible that breaks the rest of the games simulation, or whatever. SC definitely has that one feature, but the rest of their game is broken. The rest of the game doesn't really work. My take from that is even if GIG were to 'lower' their game, they would not be able to make it work, or it would take way more effort. It's not about the assets in the game. Its that whatever they're doing, or how they're going about it, doesn't work. They could have blocks for objects, it just wouldn't run like they want. So, for the core of the gameplay, ED and NMS have that which they can add to maybe. SC has no core that actually works, or they haven't shown it at least. Oh, maybe the hangar.
And remember, SC has a lot of resources (money) at their disposal. 10x more than EDO and multiply again than NMS. My guess is, if they really wanted to release something, they would have found what works and released that. They really just want more money.
The dislike I have for SC, and probably many others in this thread, doesn't have anything to do with the game itself. It's with the marketing scam, the ever growing realization that they cant do anything near to what they promised, with how they promised it, and that somehow they keep getting more money. The latter of those is not entirely their fault, since people are handing them the cash. But the more money they get, why would they ever release it? If someone handed you $1000 because you said you'd give them a picture in a month, you'd probably give them a picture. But if you didnt, like maybe you didnt have resources, and someone else gave you $1000 to do the same thing, you'd probably repeat the same thing just to see what happened, yes? And then say after the second month, the first person asked "hey, where's that picture?" and you said "Im working on it" and that person said "ok, here's $50 for the extra time you must be needing", would you really say no? I mean, though its sad that CIG are taking those handouts, if folks keep handing them cash, why would they stop? My fear is car companies or Amazon will see this, and be like...hey, people pay for 'no product'...sign me up. (thankfully they haven't gone that route, yet!) But thats where the dislike is. Oh, in regards only to the game, personally, the ships look ok at first, but seem like monstrosities now, where ED ships seemed basic at first, but have grown on me. Maybe if I were able to play with those ships in SC for 3000 hours, they'd grow on me too, but it ususally crashes after 5 minutes, so there's that.
There's no excuses for a game in production and not alpha.
Kinda lost me there...it's perpetually broken crap, the company producing it is financially disreputable all controlled via a morally corrupt marketing department...what else would you like me to say? As far as I'm concerned, the idiot Roberts will never allow Star Citizen to be formally reviewed if he can possibly prevent it...but he'll get his comeuppance with Sqn 42 if he ever dares to release it...believe me
If Star Citizen (or Sqn42) ever got to a reviewable state and metacritic gave it a score of 9.8...would you buy it?...Or would you continue to ponder on the fact that $500m and 10 years have produced absolutely nothing worth that kind of money or development time? It's not all about game reviews on t'interweb...
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We all judge and review the 'other game' every time we post on here...who cares what some 3rd rate PC game review would likely say? At least we're for the most part pretty honest in our assessment and views of it, whether we play it or not.
Star Citizen, it's farcical management and almost criminally obtuse financial quagmire... along with it's glacial..even geologically slow development due entirely to those factors are a universal internet meme outside of the closed ranks of it's most staunch or fanatical supporters...A metacritic score, however glowing or dire it could possibly be, isn't going to change that...ever
It’s just a handy, obvious metric for anyone stumbling onto a game for the first time. (The general sarcasm around SC is handed around in a more gossipy fashion. You can’t exactly search for it
).Lord knows enough guys stumble into the SC subreddit going 'Hey I saw a vid, what is this? I must have it!'. Think a few of them could benefit from the odd 2 star review
I suspect more than a few will be put off once they visit the RSi store and see the pricesIt’s just a handy, obvious metric for anyone stumbling onto a game for the first time. (The general sarcasm around SC is handed around in a more gossipy fashion. You can’t exactly search for it
Lord knows enough guys stumble into the SC subreddit going 'Hey I saw a vid, what is this? I must have it!'. Think a few of them could benefit from the odd 2 star review
I've never once judged a game by what others say about it or take an internet review as any indication as to whether I'd like it or not. More often than not, I'll try it and see if I like it first...then read the review scores and comments. I'd especially ignore anything that was ever posted on reddit
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Sure but plenty do right? It's just an easy 'buyer beware' aid, or a way of getting a feel for if it'd be your thing. (I tend to use Steam reviews a fair bit because you can see themes from the historic and recent reviews pretty quickly, get a feel for what type of players it's attracted, and see what the main community dramas are
. Then decide whether any of that bothers you.)SC sits in this weird limbo state of being on sale but unreviewable. To anyone coming to it fresh, it's just an early access game that looks super glossy, and costs as much as a normal game. (But hey no early access reviews, because it's not in any of the broader marketplaces). Sure google might throw up some drama for anyone searching, but equally it might serve them the latest shiny 'definitely not marketing' video instead
. (Hell, even my scurrilous search history just throws up solid CIG marketing for the entire first page of results, partially due to their use of paid ads).If a noob wants to dig for pros and cons, and not just the marketing take, they have to properly dig...
I know I would. I fail miserably at finding the time to actually learn to fly in ED atm but I love the atmosphere and everything, because it makes space feel just so cozy and I hate light sabers and yetis or whatever. But if Sq42 turns out mediocre, it'll be hard to keep people interested in the MMO. Should it turn out great, why deprive myself of a quality experience out of spite for EA levels of dishonesty and greed? Some of that wouldhave created an actual finished product, so there's that.
I cant wait for people to be able to post their opinions about star citizen! this thread will really take off then.
I give your post 2 stars.
5 from me for the eye rolling sarcasm of it
That's more stars than the Star Citizen "universe".