Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12
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Agreed, love them both as people. Wish them both all the best.
But watch Mike for his content, the ups and downs, which is like a rollercoaster ride.
Won't nobody think about the coffee cups i've been stacking on Hurston???!!!
So it's you causing the 30k's...figures
Generally you trade steady ongoing costs for a larger upfront cost but lower monthly costs.
Its all fine and dandy until there are problems, in which case, you need the support staff there to fix it, which is one of the benefits of the cloud. Server breaks, they should spin up new ones for you quickly, and nobody is the wiser (reality might differ from marketing of course).
Now, let me say this straight, i've been anti-cloud since the first marketing demon first said the word, but it does have its advantages.
But if you're going big, then it might be better to roll your own, as economies of scale come into play.
I believe Bootcha will have a much better breakdown with solid numbers in Chapter 8 of his ongoing series. I've always been a "soft numbers" guy which makes me an absolutely terrible programmer but weirdly good at ballparking costs.
Waiting for chapter 8 of Sunk Cost Galaxy has been as tortuous as waiting for George RR Martin to finish a song of Ice and Fire
You mean under the goblets, or the coffee jug?
Depends which ship, but thought the jug was on the table on the 890; if missing a cup - pretend you're in the Elite Empire, send out a beacon for some players to act as slaves, and sip coffee from a goblet like a King while they fan you
Yeah it's obvious some things a character reset wont help with.
My ship bug was just doing a quantum travel, and i "exploded" near the end and straight into a 30K / CTD. Starting up again and ship was unclaimable, maybe because it was destroyed at "Stanton" and not a real place per se?
Apart from that the servers have settled down a lot, but then not played much or how i did in 3.13.
Waiting for chapter 8 of Sunk Cost Galaxy has been as tortuous as waiting for George RR Martin to finish a song of Ice and Fire
Feels bad man.
9 years ago....
Also...
Star Citizen's cloud city is the final port of call for the game's single solar system
Star Citizen's 3.14 update adds a new planet, a new city, and more
www.rockpapershotgun.com
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Place your bets: Chapter 8 or Pyro?
10 hours old and still Blobers-free.Star Citizen's cloud city is the final port of call for the game's single solar system
Star Citizen's 3.14 update adds a new planet, a new city, and more
Comments are fun.
You mean under the goblets, or the coffee jug?
Depends which ship, but thought the jug was on the table on the 890; if missing a cup - pretend you're in the Elite Empire, send out a beacon for some players to act as slaves, and sip coffee from a goblet like a King while they fan you
Yeah it's obvious some things a character reset wont help with.
My ship bug was just doing a quantum travel, and i "exploded" near the end and straight into a 30K / CTD. Starting up again and ship was unclaimable, maybe because it was destroyed at "Stanton" and not a real place per se?
Apart from that the servers have settled down a lot, but then not played much or how i did in 3.13.
325A, its defiantly missing.
From 2 years ago...
A few caveats:
Server pricing varies from location to location. Multiple locations mean multiple server costs per virtual instance.
Not every server will be full. Each server will count as a separate instance for AWS pricing, even if there's just a single player on the server.
CryEngine is notorious about having almost everything done using server side authentication vs client side authentication (yes, it is dumb). This vastly increases CPU usage even when players are performing non-heavy usage tasks.
Faster player or object movement speeds will increase CPU overhead, especially if the players or objects are interacting with the physics engine (you can thank the OG CryEngine guys for this too).
Star Citizen's tick rate is currently set at 10hz (or lower?). It needs to come up by 3 times to meet the demand of most modern twitch based shooters. This will increase CPU cycle overhead drastically -- costs per CPU cycle over your threshold are notoriously expensive. Increasing the tick rate will begin seeing CPU compute cycle costs rise by each hz -- cost per hz will not scale linearly.
And really, you don't have to believe anything I say (and you never should). But it's obvious that CIG could increase performance by upping the server tick rate. They can do this by spending more money on AWS CPU compute cycles.
edit: What you are quoting there is similar to what I run SSMS queries on (using Azure). It's slow enough that my boss complains constantly when we are at heavy usage (in a three person department). You'd need to start using AWS's heavy hitters in order to maintain a constant 30hz per server.
I'd say you could probably get away with a decent server farm for SC with its current playerbase for around $4m to $8m or so (depending on how many regions you would want to support). This would include initial operating costs, both for hardware and personnel. Monthly you're probably looking at...I dunno, $40k - $80k/m in electricity + server operating expenses + rental space. Staff would be at least another $25k to $40k a month. Switching to your own server infrastructure does leave you waaaaay more vulnerable to security exploits, especially DDoS attacks.
But, going your own way solves two things: keeping your ongoing overhead costs lower than using AWS and getting a better tick rate, which means better performance for your servers and therefore your players.
I'm fairly certain that Turbulent is in the process of dumping AWS for their own internal server hardware.
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Loaded this up to play then went for a little jaunt around Orison....
I think they are waiting to switch from AWS to their own internal servers for this to happen. Get a new currency and call it bUEC (buck! get it?), fix the exploits, wipe everything out.
Pedro Camacho, he does most of the music for Star Citizen, he's a genius.
Old and very familiar one by now, but still one of my favourites.
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I've been working in healthcare for almost 15 years now -- AWS and Azure are absolute lifesavers. Mostly because of security reasons -- my old office had to have either a $375,000 security retrofit to continue to host our own internal server...or we could just switch to AWS. Like they were going to have to install security doors, new cameras, a host of crap that cost a ton of money. Meanwhile AWS...has all that security built right in to their farms. Huge benefit, especially if you are working with confidential patient information -- you need to not only have great cybersecurity but also meat-space security..
My old boss complained about the AWS server costs and kept trying to find ways around paying...$1,500 a month. I'm no longer at that company lol
3.14x just went to PTU