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Elite Dangerous Update 7 Progress
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but you would do look at the sales
Were new financials released recently?
Yeah I think a week or two wasn't it? Buur pit did a video with a link to the full rundown if you're interested
I wish I could get away with posting the League of Gentlemen "Legs Akimbo" image.
I don't think I was ever really aware of the sales. There might be a meeting where we were told it had done well and figures might be quoted or something but if you're only interested in profit you'd be writing Online Love Island Casino Simulator 7 or something.
Dunno. I suppose my main fear with all the griping is that in my (distant and limited) experience the very most important thing in game development is morale. And it's very hard to recapture that enthusiasm once people start thinking they're working 12 hour days on something that nobody likes.
Having said that, the FD people we see in the videos always seem quite perky!
And you're never developing a game in ideal circumstances. There'll be somebody with lots of power that nobody likes. There'll be endless unrealistic deadlines. There'll be a senior management person with a completely different idea of the game to everybody else. There'll be people who aren't good at their jobs and people who are good at their jobs who have been promoted into positions where their skills are no longer useful.
And it's a creative job. It's about making decisions to do things that haven't been done before. And those things won't work quite a lot of the time.
Anyway I'll stop rambling. I just remember how stressed I was and I only had my actual colleagues to contend with!
Yup. I've said it before, I'll say it again - Elite's biggest issue is always going to be scope. Frontier are a comparatively small outfit, still very much a "boutique" studio - someone quoted the amount of employees they had and then immediately assumed that all those are developers, and that all of them are of course assigned to the game WE play, and not the other titles in their portfolio. (I'd say there's MAYBE a team of 60-70 assigned properly to Elite with others coming in as needed, and certainly not all of them are actual game developers - there's community managers, artists, content management, designers, sound engineers, etc.)
The big example of trying to accommodate everyone's opinion of what's proper is the "other" big space sim, which is pushing a decade in alpha with zero signs of completion, with a spiraling budget orders of magnitudes ahead of Frontier's ENTIRE budget, with enough bugs and issues that on its best day makes Odyssey look like a silky-smooth AAA game.
I'll save that for when I struggle to get to sleep.
Seems to work ok for FDev's developers
Yup - the unhinged managed to drive most away. And most of the CMs. gg forums!
Again, the ‘community’ is being talked about as a single entity when it’s a mass of individuals.
Blaming all the community for the actions of a minority is as daft as blaming individuals in Frontier for the failings of the company.
But clearly Frontier failed with Odyssey, the man in charge made rare appearances on the forum to say so.
Frame rate addressing is one of the most important issues as I can see because without that, the game struggles to even be played, let alone be competitive no matter what you do in it. The game needs to be stable and fast enough to cope with a lot of players doing combat roles and the servers need to be able to cope with all that too.
The community, as it stands, is toxic. To the point where Frontier had to (in addition to having the man in charge making rare appearances on here to apologise for Odyssey) issue a statement drawing a line on the topic of harassment and personal attacks on Frontier employees, not just on official Frontier stuff like forums or streams, but on their own personal social media spaces. Whether you like it or not, you and I are part of that community. You don't get to pick and choose when its a good time to be a part of it.
And also like it or not, the constant drive of the doom narrative helped fuel that abuse - that's STILL going on, you only have to look through this thread that's just a couple of days old to see more blanket insults of the team.
Presumably, I'm responsible for murders in the UK because I live here, or littering because other people drop rubbish in the street.
I'm not responsible for the actions of others, and neither are the vast majority of the 'community'.
It is tiresome, I agree, ubermick.
We all know Odyssey was released too soon, and too untested. Frontier has acknowledged that, and are scrambling to fix it.
They have also upped the communication, which is nice.
The frontier guys were very helpful with us at EDCD (Inara, Spansh, EDDiscovery, EDDI etc) with the release, taking our feedback and adding and fixing things in the journals during the summer. No complaints from us there.
So my glass is half full. I like the new on foot gameplay. The game is still being developed. Bugs are being fixed.
We all know Odyssey was released too soon, and too untested. Frontier has acknowledged that, and are scrambling to fix it.
They have also upped the communication, which is nice.
The frontier guys were very helpful with us at EDCD (Inara, Spansh, EDDiscovery, EDDI etc) with the release, taking our feedback and adding and fixing things in the journals during the summer. No complaints from us there.
So my glass is half full. I like the new on foot gameplay. The game is still being developed. Bugs are being fixed.
And that goes for both "sides", dark and white knights. Or whatever silly names are currently being used.
Pretty sure someone back there suggested that all negative comments are tantamount to abuse so yeah.. it cuts both ways guys. People who have paid money and are dissatisfied about the game have a right to voice that concern and people who are fed up of hearing that do too, but let's refrain from name calling and flinging mud at each other if we can help it eh!