Drew Wagar's Thoughts

[Ian Doncaster]

I'm always a bit conflicted on the "things Frontier said they'd include in pre-1.0 statements" thing.

On the one hand, certainly anyone who bought the game then expecting those to be added will understandably feel upset now that it's not there and not going to arrive in the next five years either, or possibly ever.

On the other hand, some of their early ideas were terrible and/or would require unpicking existing game mechanics in a highly unpopular way and/or were clearly things they came up with before they'd worked through the implications of "multiplayer" in "multiplayer Elite".

 

[Deleted member 182079]

On its own, given the overall sums involved, yes. It's a drop in the ocean.

But multiply that by 20 to 30 backers pledging the same amount or much (much) higher each, and it becomes something more than a 'rounding error'.

Remember you could pledge up to £5000 in the Kickstarter.

Five grand??? What did you get for that in return? Or was that more seen as a philantropic donation of sorts? Crikey.

 

[Juniper]

Five grand??? What did you get for that in return? Or was that more seen as a philantropic donation of sorts? Crikey.

One person (Liqua) got to name the Founder's world.

The others I think got a dinner date with David Braben.

Or yes, philanthropic.

 

[Rat Catcher]

The kickstarter apparently gave the game itself to backers for as little as £30 - any amount greater than that had an enticement attached.

This one:

Pledge £750 or more​

Have a planet named* after you

Is rather a lot of pennies... But I've been playing in a system named Juniper (in the Colonia nebula) recently, is this coincidence? The Planetary outpost named Marigold is very nice also!

 

[Deleted member 182079]

One person (Liqua) got to name the Founder's world.

The others I think got a dinner date with David Braben.

Or yes, philanthropic.

I mean, that other space game has raised the bar in terms of what you can spend on a 'game' significantly already (and from watching one of OA's videos there's another scam I mean project incoming that offers eye-wateringly high opportunities to burn money) but wow. Hope they thought it was worth it. Small second hand car or naming a station in a pooter game... tough one.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

On its own, given the overall sums involved, yes. It's a drop in the ocean.

But multiply that by 20 to 30 backers pledging the same amount or much (much) higher each, and it becomes something more than a 'rounding error'.

Remember you could pledge up to £5000 in the Kickstarter.

1.5 million from backers, 6.5 million from FD IIRC.

Even if a hundred people refunded, it would have been insignificant.

 

[LeoBartlet]

True enough... I should have added a few extra words for clarity... It is simply that clarity is not a prerequisite in making accusations or claims, so my post was reflecting the current trend of containing sufficient information to be inflammatory and accusing, but lacking in the content required to be entirely accurate.

I appreciate you honouring forum convention.

Praise Brebus.

 

[Rat Catcher]

Five grand??? What did you get for that in return? Or was that more seen as a philantropic donation of sorts? Crikey.

There are a lot of 'extras', but this, essentially:

Pledge £5,000 or more​

Dinner with myself and the key team members in Cambridge, Have a central star system named* after you, plus all rewards above.

Linky: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous

 

[Agony_Aunt]

On the other hand, some of their early ideas were terrible

Can i just say "God like powers" for higher tier backers.

That is one i'm very thankful went the way of the dodo.

 

[Winterwalker]

Five grand??? What did you get for that in return? Or was that more seen as a philantropic donation of sorts? Crikey.

Apparently you can buy a ship for less than that in SC these days? I heard anyway. (Buy an Idris)

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Five grand??? What did you get for that in return? Or was that more seen as a philantropic donation of sorts? Crikey.

You got to name a system IIRC and some other stuff.

 

[Winterwalker]

Five grand??? What did you get for that in return? Or was that more seen as a philantropic donation of sorts? Crikey.

And by the power of grey skull ...

Elite: Dangerous

Take a ship and 100 credits to make money legally or illegally - trade, bounty-hunt, pirate, assassinate your way across the galaxy.

www.kickstarter.com

 

[Juniper]

Pledge £750 or more
Have a planet named* after you

Is rather a lot of pennies... But I've been playing in a system named Juniper (in the Colonia nebula) recently, is this coincidence? The Planetary outpost named Marigold is very nice also!

It is absolutely coincidence - but that's fascinating to know. Nothing to do with me, and I'm positive it's random. Cool though.

My planet is in the Asphodel system (was Imperial last time I looked), along with the station named after my late Dad, and even a moon that I didn't ask for but was very glad to receive.

I like Michael Brookes. He is a good guy.

 

[Vandaahl]

You got to name a system IIRC and some other stuff.

"And all of the above"

Elite Dangerous Kickstarter

Elite Dangerous was first announced to the public on November 5, 2012.[1] Over a quarter of a century after the original Elite. David Braben of Frontier Developments launched a successful Kickstarter campaign in November 2012. The purpose was to test-market the concept, verify whether there's...

elite-dangerous.fandom.com

 

[amigacooke]

The others I think got a dinner date with David Braben.

Did that ever happen, or did plans change?

 

[Vandaahl]

Did that ever happen, or did plans change?

Not at lunch

 

[Winterwalker]

I got the game and a lifetime pass for an absolute steal in KS.

White Knighting is all IOU but you love me really.

And someone sent me a galaxy map they didn't want.

 

[Juniper]

1.5 million from backers, 6.5 million from FD IIRC.

Even if a hundred people refunded, it would have been insignificant.

If it was £100,000 worth of refunds, would that be insignificant?

 

[Deleted member 182079]

Hehehe. "you can have dinner with me, 5 grand".

Confident.

Also, I really dislike the notion of naming systems (though I don't mind ShinDez as such) and stations, there are some truly awful ones out there, some in engineer systems which really take me out of the game. Same goes for player faction names as well. But money talks I guess and is not reflective of one's imagination.

 

[Rat Catcher]

It is absolutely coincidence - but that's fascinating to know. Nothing to do with me, and I'm positive it's random. Cool though.

I did chuckle when I dropped into the system, and wondered

In Colonia terms, it is in a 'nice' place for me to work from, so I'd spent a week or so parked up there.