Was Diso 5c the same where it was locked after Horizons but not landable prior? I ask as at least according to the older lore it may be locked due to Thargoid research. It interestingly is very near Uszaa where I believe the Thargoid incursion in GalCop started (related to the fact that gas giants with Ammonia-life seem to correlate much more closely to Thargoid activity in an area than terresterial ammonia-worlds). Worth noting Uszaa is Federal, and this may have been a deliberate act to destabilize GalCop. All signs from digging around prior Thargoid hot spots seems to indicate humans caused this but still working on who and motives with each case. First working to make sure the idea is solid and cannot be explained better another way. I really think we need to be playing a lot closer attention to where gas giants with ammonia-based life are located.
The Quest To Find Raxxla
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Don’t ask me. I remembered it all wrong
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Cheer up! Frustration is part of the game!
Now, how do we know that TDW never found Raxxla? As far as I’m aware we only have the statement of the Admiral in one book, and I’m not convinced that is necessarily canon.
Mind I’m also coming around to the belief that TDW is a total red herring and is not the secret society DB said we can join. PF are said to be pretty secretive and we are all members.
Oh, I think there are clues in the codex. I’m currently working some possibilities, but my hands have got worse over the last few days (thanks to son’s diy and dog’s seizures) so not progressing very fast.
The pre game writers guides told that TDW hadn’t found Raxxla.
They could have found it after 3301, but I don’t see the point of that.
Your thinking of the logo in the codex however read up on Elite lore and you will see 7 is a number used in more than just Thargoid lore and is a very prominent number to also be considered within Raxxla, in real life it is a very symbolic number in many cultures and religions which is why i think Fdev/Braben have used it along with a lot of trow backs to mythology
I'm not guessing, I'm just writing what I really see. And by the way the goals of the community have a logo 5.
Do we have access to those guides? Don't remember seeing that morsel of information in the guides included in Allen Stroud’s PhD thesis
He or John wrote it on the forum. Don’t remember which one. Search for forum user: Thargoid. You’ll find it.
Mmm, user Thargoid is not valid on the forum search, though I’m sure Ive seen some of those posts. There’s a Thargon, but no Thargoid coming up as a member. Assuming he’s changed his name.
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This is not true.. read again... the FSD was discovered somewhere in 23th century, but the first commerical use was in 28th century with faraway system. If there one of the first test of FSD that discovered Raxxla then my guess it would not been secret so long.(Raxxla is mentioned in 2296) Most likely was on of the generationships , first was launched in 2097. So that if what we have ... one of the first FSD testflight or one of the many generationships that had been sent out. Seems more likely that it was generationships that discovered it. OR if it was a FSD exprimental craft.... would explain why it took 600years to it became widley used because someone was scared that Raxxla was to be found by others that used FSD and it was Faraway system that didnt allow direct access to Raxxla and there for it was allowed.
Ah, thanks! Never played FFE
But “
The second scene on the Behemoth confirms the FFE main storyline and that the Dark Wheel didn't find Raxxla.
WHILE AT THE TIME OF WRITING THIS WAS TRUE AS PER INFORMATION PROVIDED BY FD, THE FIRST ENCOUNTERS STORYLINE WAS LATER REDACTED.
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So, sounds like TDW did find Raxxla?
Nah.
Usually in FFE the player (or in perspective of E: D, one Jameson) delivered mycoid vaccine to Thargoids.
Not so in E: D timeline.
This is what concerns me about putting faith in the books. They were written before The Great Redaction! I’m not sure anything in the books can be relied on, unless it is confirmed in-game.
BUT there seems very little confirmation of anything in-game!
BUT there seems very little confirmation of anything in-game!
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The FFE storyline and TDW / Raxxla are two separate subjects.
The solid part of the FFE storyline has not been redacted. It's only the open end of FFE that has been kept open in ED, as well. The rest has been copied to ED, almost word for word. Even system names that don't exist have been kept in the TB texts.
Since my hands are too painful to fly I’m re-reading OOTD at the moment. Anyone else noticed that EDSM seems to have this wrong. On the system description for Peregrina it says “
Habitable zone:
Metal-rich body (2 to 34 ls), Earth-like world (541 to 811 ls), Water world (444 to 1,718 ls), Ammonia world (1,122 to 3,054 ls), Terraformable (421 to 841 ls)”
But that doesnt tie in with the system bodies tab descriptions. Yes, there’s one ELW and one MRB, but the others don’t match. From what I remember of the story there’s nothing to explain this difference.
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Ah, confusing! Had a response on the EDSM discord “The habitable zone is the zone where planets of that type, if they are present, would potentially be habitable. It does not mean that there are bodies of that type at those distance ranges.”
Habitable zone:
Metal-rich body (2 to 34 ls), Earth-like world (541 to 811 ls), Water world (444 to 1,718 ls), Ammonia world (1,122 to 3,054 ls), Terraformable (421 to 841 ls)”
But that doesnt tie in with the system bodies tab descriptions. Yes, there’s one ELW and one MRB, but the others don’t match. From what I remember of the story there’s nothing to explain this difference.
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Ah, confusing! Had a response on the EDSM discord “The habitable zone is the zone where planets of that type, if they are present, would potentially be habitable. It does not mean that there are bodies of that type at those distance ranges.”
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Ages ago, was it Yorkshire where various persons were believed to have tails? Not where the tailed themselves were present in Yorkshire, but wherein they were believed to be present in nearby precincts by local tradition?
...I see how this might be offensive to you, but it's the first thing that came to mind with your mention of Yorkshire Day, and I am a creature of strict habit when it comes to sharing things that come to mind. Also, five days should be devoted to the celebration of any such county, and a toast to this day August 1st and not least for the cheering of Yorkshire!
Nope, I think that was Southerners!
Sadly I have been at the point where 2060 Chiron should according to stellarium. And no .. there is nothing there.. my guess is that EDs orbits are not correct in direction or in time. Something is very wrong in ED... even the Raxxla search is buggyAn unknown body orbiting between Saturn and Uranus???????
Mmmmmmm!!!
“2060 Chiron /ˈkaɪərɒn/ is a small Solar System body in the outer Solar System, orbiting the Sun between Saturn and Uranus.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2060_Chiron
I’ve already posited that Chiron might be , but then why doesnt it show on scans? Maybe its the Omphalos Rift?
and with that my Raxxla search ended
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Yes, checking orbits of the planets in Sol themselves some time ago, they didn't match Stellarium's positions at any date I could find. Stellarium's modelling is sophisticated. They use VSOP87 which should give 1 arc second accuracy over the interval we are considering for the major bodies. Things like Charon, we're pushing even Stellarium's accuracy by 3307.
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The models in E: D are, I think quite simple ellipsoidal models with no adjustments for multi-body interactions, which is not surprising really.
Stellarium also accounts for the motion of the galaxy, something which is not modelled in E: D at all, so the skybox in E: D wont match Stellarium accurately either. Elite has the star positions as they were in the year 2000, apart from nebulas which are as per 1950
[edit: must say I prefer the other VSOP ]
VSOP model - Wikipedia
The models in E: D are, I think quite simple ellipsoidal models with no adjustments for multi-body interactions, which is not surprising really.
Stellarium also accounts for the motion of the galaxy, something which is not modelled in E: D at all, so the skybox in E: D wont match Stellarium accurately either. Elite has the star positions as they were in the year 2000, apart from nebulas which are as per 1950
[edit: must say I prefer the other VSOP
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