Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12
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Clearly, that other company just doesn't understand games development.
Basically difference comes from what kind of approach you have. Do you plan your product with realistic expectations? Basically trying to do things that are possible with current technology or near future, and if some feature seems to be very difficult or outright impossible you ditch it, and don't continue to throw money and resources for that. Plus you decide once what you are going to do, and don't change plans suddenly. That's one way to do things. That produces real released games.
Then there is Star Citizen way. Make plans that are basically impossible to implement with real tech, hope that at some point of future some new jesustech will help, keep changing plans, throw a lots of good money for things that will probably never work, promise even more....and that way you get to burn nearly half a billion dollars and ten years of time, and still have incomplete tech demo.
Product released, however, no atmospheric landings, no spacelegs, no ship or station interiors, no EVA, no ship boarding. Charged $40 for this expansion to the Base ED.
A released product that was initially as stable or even less stable than the Star Citizen Alpha. And even then they spent close to 3 years on an expansion that added tenuous atmospheres, settlements, on foot combat, space taxis, and additional engineering materials. The launch was a commercial failure, 3 years and who knows how many millions wasted.
Subnautica is a basic survival game with a cool underwater world. Extremely different kind of game.
Pillars of Eternity is a top down RPG game.
It is even worse - it still does not have a magic system. Or sexy necromancers.
Initially. Just happens that Fdev patches it rather agressively, if it was done SC way it would still be about same mess as it was when it was released. Nowadays it is mostly OK product, still has some rough edges, but it is not one big bugfest waiting to kill your character with creative ways.
For me, Odyssey has CTD'ed exactly twice, and couple of bugs forced me to restart application. Have played it since release. One death due to me not understanding game mechanics. (When NPC's tell you to stop for scanning better do it instantly.)
If it was done the SC way it wouldn't have launched in the first place in this state. But even if it was initially a failure, it still very much is. Still sitting at Mostly Negative on Steam. Recent reviews are mixed yes, but the big picture hasn't changed.
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For me, Odyssey has also CTD'ed twice, with a couple of disconnects. Haven't played Odyssey since Update 7. I have however played Horizons, where I have had a couple of disconnects aswell. All in all, Star Citizen is more stable for me than any version of Elite. I have not had a CTD in SC since 3.13, which came out beginning of last year. Many 30ks in 3,14, but absolutely none in 3.16.
Yeah if it was done SC way it would still be an Alpha at 2031. And still nearly as bad state as it was in spring 2021. And they would sell G5 engineered ships for real money. With macro-transactions.
Plus mr. Braben would have ranted a lot about best bartender ever in game
Complains you can't compare SC to ED because SC is an Alpha and ED is a released game....5 minutes later starts comparing SC to ED because he's found a metric where he thinks SC is superior to ED!
On the other side, selling game packages for $40k, no release in sight, missing many fundamental gameplay loops, 10 years in development, close to half a billion spent, selling ships for which no gameplay loops exist, and the list goes on and on, and you're defending this like its somehow better than what others have done.
You know, this is just ridiculous and i cannot believe you are sincere. Either that or you are just suffering from a severe case of Robertitis.
You can join LA on my block list because reading this drivel is destroying my brain cells.
Nah, I don't block anyone in forums. I save that for in-game
Is the not-at-all-an-exercise-in-narcissism-website-named-after-the-company's-co-founder which claims SC to be a "playable now" game not misleading?
Should there be asterisks on the "playable* now*" line? Playable*: for certain loose definitions of playable. Now*: may or may not be now or sometime in future in the perpetual-alpha status game. What is time anyway.
Should there be asterisks on the "playable* now*" line? Playable*: for certain loose definitions of playable. Now*: may or may not be now or sometime in future in the perpetual-alpha status game. What is time anyway.
Better idea how to fund it?
Nobody said it's finished.
Bon voyage
playable
/ˈpleɪəb(ə)l/
adjective
- able to be used or played.
"the game will be playable over the internet"
Ah, so you're saying CIG is guilty of false advertising. I completely agree.