You wrote a text wall about something you didn't understand. If DW said that he heard MB/DB said Raxxla is in the game, yes, I'd believe him.

He can confirm hearing certain things from people, but he cannot confirm the existence of Raxxla in the game by himself.
He wasn't the main story writer, he was one of the writers of the books. And Salome was an isolated event.
Lool wow you know very little and think you know everything.

Did you listen to the whole Drew video? He was told directly from one of them (BD/MB) while at a bar having a drink with them, so saying he wasn't told directly, is just a lie. And again claiming he cannot say he was told this when he was, is again a lie.

Your right, he wasn't the MAIN story writer, but I didnt say he was. I said he was A main, not THE main. And yes, yes he was, from the beginning, that's indisputable and has never been questioned by anyone but you apparently.

And Google it yourself, im not linking 20 pages of proof to someone who hasnt even looked for 10secs themselves, but YES, Drew controlled/dictated actions of, the NPC Salome, it's well documented on several sites, including the wiki on Drew I believe, but can't remember off the top of my head, been a while since I read that particular page. But yes he did, that's why he was able to write anything he wanted in Reclamation about her time while she 'disappeared'. But here are 2 quick screenshots, which you can use to find the articles yourself.
Salome was Controlled, right until her death, by Drew and his actions/writings as well as ingame events, even though she was NPC.

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Bruh moment.

1- He bought writers pack like other writers did. It allowed him to write and publish an official ED book, not the story of the game.
2- Why tf do you keep mentioning Salome?
3- Again, he's not confirming Raxxla's existence, he's confirming what he heard.
 
Ok, I have work to go to, so last thing for a few hours....

First off, Drew was writing for ED long before Reclamation, that's just one story.

Next, Are you that diluted that you think an Offical ED Book, licensed by fdev/Elite, is not part of the game or its lore??

All Official Books are considered cannon and factually correct to the ED Game, also, anything Elite takes/uses from a player, including in-game factions, become property of Fdev/ED and are considered official and part of lore and game and they (fdev) can use them as they see fit.

Which brings me back to Salome. She was Drews, even as an NPC and owned by Fdev, he controlled most of her.
Do you know ANY other, non fdev developer, writer who had control of a NPC? No, so again, goes to the trustworthiness of him and his statements. Fdev trusted him more than just about anyone outside of the dev team themselves.

And yes he is confirming it, lol, do you not listen to his words, Yes Raxxla is IN GAME, those are his words, how is that not confirming? And he HEARD IT, from FDEV (MB/DB to be exact), not some random player or online forum, direct from the tippy top of fdev ED dev team, therefore it's like the USA President telling CNN news somthing and CNN telling the world.
President = fdev/MB/DB
CNN = Drew
World = US

Anyways, gtg, work -_-"
 
Ok, I have work to go to, so last thing for a few hours....

First off, Drew was writing for ED long before Reclamation, that's just one story.

Next, Are you that diluted that you think an Offical ED Book, licensed by fdev/Elite, is not part of the game or its lore??

All Official Books are considered cannon and factually correct to the ED Game, also, anything Elite takes/uses from a player, including in-game factions, become property of Fdev/ED and are considered official and part of lore and game and they (fdev) can use them as they see fit.

Which brings me back to Salome. She was Drews, even as an NPC and owned by Fdev, he controlled most of her.
Do you know ANY other, non fdev developer, writer who had control of a NPC? No, so again, goes to the trustworthiness of him and his statements. Fdev trusted him more than just about anyone outside of the dev team themselves.

And yes he is confirming it, lol, do you not listen to his words, Yes Raxxla is IN GAME, those are his words, how is that not confirming? And he HEARD IT, from FDEV (MB/DB to be exact), not some random player or online forum, direct from the tippy top of fdev ED dev team, therefore it's like the USA President telling CNN news somthing and CNN telling the world.
President = fdev/MB/DB
CNN = Drew
World = US

Anyways, gtg, work -_-"
I don't even know why I tried to explain in the first place. Ok, dude.
 
I’d say any statements by a 3rd party are an unknown / un-corroborated.

I’d like to say I trust both sources but I can’t. I can say I like both ideas, but I shouldn’t accept them as reliable; as posting something on line is not proof alone or a certainty.

At best both inform, when considered against the other evidence.

Drew statements may be said to more reliable (to a degree) because David and Brookes also confirmed it as in game on other occasions. But that’s all, all he stated was he was told it’s in game, and they know why players haven’t found it.

The other source which states it ‘was’ accessible, may hold veracity if only other separate sources could corroborate it.

But again they all cannot be held up as 100% reliable. Even the statements of DB and MB or even AT could be unreliable, as they are all historical, it’s a game which undergoes development and change.

AT statements (as he said it on 2 separate occasions) are the most recent, but likewise, under scrutiny don’t confirm it as in game only that’s its ’out there’ and he was at that time discussing in the same breath, narrative structure.

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I’d say any statements by a 3rd party are an unknown / un-corroborated.

I trust both sources yet but also don’t, a healthy dose of salt, goes some way to balance the flavour; as posting something on line is not entirely proof alone or a certainty.

At best both inform, when considered against the other evidence.

Drew statements may be said to more reliable (to a degree) because David and Brookes also confirmed it as in game on other occasions. But that’s all, all he stated was it’s in game, and they know why players haven’t found it.

The other source which states it ‘was’ accessible, may hold veracity if only other separate sources could corroborate it.

But again they all cannot be held up as 100% reliable. Even the statements of DB and MB or even AT could be unreliable, as they are all historical, it’s a game which undergoes development and change.

AT statement are the most recent, but likewise, under scrutiny don’t confirm it as in game only that’s its ’out there’.

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Yes to all of that :)

I just wanted to make sure it was clear that Drew got his information basically from the source, not assumptions or hearsay, and that we have no reason to doubt his information based on the corroborating statements from DB and MB, and his general involvement with ED and its storylines. Especially if you believe any other outside of game sources of information at all on Raxxla, even youtubers, this forum, the books, ect.

Sure I admit there is always possibility they lied/mislead/are wrong... but that's been discussed 100000 times over and we'll agreed could be a possibility, but is not the generally acepted assumption made by most here, even if we admit its still a possibility, that's all :)

No text wall, I promise XD there was one, I deleted it XD just leave it at yes I agree.
 
New topic of Raxxla hunt;

One of my dozens of theories;

We won't find Raxxla until we find the Guaridan Constructs, which could be the 'sinister cabal' using/controlling/hiding Raxxla....

The Constructs are currently still listed as 'unknown' if they still exist, but are included as Sentient Species on most of the ED wikis/sites...

Thoughts? Theories? Opinions? Ideas?

I have been trying to decide on an area of space that could start the "Construct Hunt" or what ever, and start looking over a 50-100ly or somthing bubble in some areas....
But can't even begin to guess/find a clue, to where some areas that should be checked would be....

I also realize that there's a chance they are in some permit locked regions due to non-implementation, but hopeful otherwise 🧐 with Guardian Beacons, sites, ect all in game, hoping they would be too, if they're meant to be....

Imagine.... 🧐🤔🤦‍♂️🤣😱🤯

They could be angry AF about us using their tech for weapons and drives, lol.... then have two 'Aliens Species ' trying to kill humanity, lol...
Or they could be useful and helpful.. .

Thoughts? Lmaoo
 
He ‘said’ he got his information from source; but no one else ever confirmed that ‘experience’; his reliability could be ascribed as higher due to him having his picture taken with DB; was invited to work with FD if that can accepted in some way, but still it doesn’t really mean much, it’s s leap of faith.

His reliability as a source is higher than the other, because the ‘thing’ he talked about not the ‘event’ was later confirmed. However Drew’s statement is not flat out concrete, historically how he described the event changed over time… that’s just memory… if you were to say the ‘event’ definitely happened because DW said it did and he’s a nice guy… well you just can’t… we were not there, and no one else has confirmed it.

His experience was never confirmed, as in David said ‘yup we had a pint, and I defo said that’… but that’s not what happened.

Drew’s statements only adds weight to DB, MB and AT who ‘might be’ trusted source. It only makes FD statements a little more reliable - but still not 100%. It is subjective.

The other source exists in a vacuum, no one else nor anyone from FD have ever said it’s ‘accessible’.

When FD do state it’s accessible, that sources reliability goes up too, but only if said confirmation is historical, just like Drew’s, still doesn’t make it 100% accurate, it only adds weight to the official or trusted source. Unless someone at FD said ‘yup that was me, I was there, had a pint and I defo said that’. Or if more 3rd parties come forward.

This is relationship mapping and case analysis to a degree…On its own any evidence cannot be truly trusted, but seen in comparison with others it can be weighed, to assess if something has a relationship or a location exists or an event happened. But all is totally subjective, it has to be viewed with scepticism and based upon each elements reliability score.

On this merit alone all the evidence for Raxxla is technically unreliable, it’s a thought exercise, so we have to score elements as trustworthy for it to hold a reliable relationship; if that evidence is unreliable - this all is hogwash.

That reality resides always, it can only be made resilient by other supporting information… but we ourselves must remain objective.

None of the evidence is reliable. In the end we cannot say for certain one thing or the other, only build an assessment based on the information provided and make recommendations, it is up to the player to decide if our assessment / recommendations are valid enough, they may not be; assumptions are the things we may not have reliable information for, but we have a degree of experience or informed knowledge to provide subjective insight, if there is insufficient information/reliability, it’s an intelligence gap, or an unknown.

Then there’s tin-foil…

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New topic of Raxxla hunt;

One of my dozens of theories;

We won't find Raxxla until we find the Guaridan Constructs, which could be the 'sinister cabal' using/controlling/hiding Raxxla....

The Constructs are currently still listed as 'unknown' if they still exist, but are included as Sentient Species on most of the ED wikis/sites...

Thoughts? Theories? Opinions? Ideas?

I have been trying to decide on an area of space that could start the "Construct Hunt" or what ever, and start looking over a 50-100ly or somthing bubble in some areas....
But can't even begin to guess/find a clue, to where some areas that should be checked would be....

I also realize that there's a chance they are in some permit locked regions due to non-implementation, but hopeful otherwise 🧐 with Guardian Beacons, sites, ect all in game, hoping they would be too, if they're meant to be....

Imagine.... 🧐🤔🤦‍♂️🤣😱🤯

They could be angry AF about us using their tech for weapons and drives, lol.... then have two 'Aliens Species ' trying to kill humanity, lol...
Or they could be useful and helpful.. .

Thoughts? Lmaoo
I have a feeling the constructs are in Hyponia and the reason why Jacques station was pulled towards that direction with the Thargoid sensors on board, Since they react so badly to guardian tech, so much Thargoid sensors may have tried to bring the station towards (As opposed to pointing to) the region of what the thargoids are fearful of and trying to avoid
 
I have a feeling the constructs are in Hyponia and the reason why Jacques station was pulled towards that direction with the Thargoid sensors on board, Since they react so badly to guardian tech, so much Thargoid sensors may have tried to bring the station towards (As opposed to pointing to) the region of what the thargoids are fearful of and trying to avoid

That's as good a location/area and reason to start from, as any other.

Though, the same/opposite argument could be made that Jaques was "pushed" away from Begal Point area for the same Thargoid reasons, but from an area of space "to the right" or what.e. of Begal Point.... some system more opposite Colonia on the system map...
Basically the Thargoid tech wanted to be as far away as possible from the Constructs.

So both Hyponia/Colonia and points opposite them in the galaxy, could be very good points to start from I guess 🤔 🧐
 
If the Dark Wheel toast were to refer to commodities (I don't want you to believe it, but just imagine 2 minutes), what could it be? My knowledge of the commodities is very limited, I would appreciate a little help.
  • For the jewels that shine on the forehead of the mother of all galaxies!
    • Mother of all galaxies = nothingness, void
    • void jewels = Void Opal [Mining]
  • For the one who whispers in the confines of hyperspace, the siren of nothingness!
    • Thargoid whispers in the confines of hyperspace. Thargoid heart? [Combat]
  • The mourning of a parent, the sadness of a lover,
    • Sadness = tears = water.
    • Mourning = death = memorial
    • Shintara water, Rare at Jameson Memorial [Trading]
  • The desire of our wandering hearts (+fernweh)
    • Travel, exploration, desire elsewhere, discovery, treasure hunt. An item representative of Dark Wheel's vocation. Or linked to The Dark Wheel.
    • [Exploration thing?]
For exploration salvages:
  • small survey data cache (petit lot de données d'exploration)
  • large survey data cache (important lot de données d'exploration)
  • galactic travel guide (guide de voyage galactique)

I only can see these very relevent. I don't agree with you but the point of this thread is to try and verify each therories, so good luck ;)
 
He ‘said’ he got his information from source; but no one else ever confirmed that ‘experience’; his reliability could be ascribed as higher due to him having his picture taken with DB; was invited to work with FD if that can accepted in some way, but still it doesn’t really mean much, it’s s leap of faith.

His reliability as a source is higher than the other, because the ‘thing’ he talked about not the ‘event’ was later confirmed. However Drew’s statement is not flat out concrete, historically how he described the event changed over time… that’s just memory… if you were to say the ‘event’ definitely happened because DW said it did and he’s a nice guy… well you just can’t… we were not there, and no one else has confirmed it.

His experience was never confirmed, as in David said ‘yup we had a pint, and I defo said that’… but that’s not what happened.

Drew’s statements only adds weight to DB, MB and AT who ‘might be’ trusted source. It only makes FD statements a little more reliable - but still not 100%. It is subjective.

The other source exists in a vacuum, no one else nor anyone from FD have ever said it’s ‘accessible’.

When FD do state it’s accessible, that sources reliability goes up too, but only if said confirmation is historical, just like Drew’s, still doesn’t make it 100% accurate, it only adds weight to the official or trusted source. Unless someone at FD said ‘yup that was me, I was there, had a pint and I defo said that’. Or if more 3rd parties come forward.

This is relationship mapping and case analysis to a degree…On its own any evidence cannot be truly trusted, but seen in comparison with others it can be weighed, to assess if something has a relationship or a location exists or an event happened. But all is totally subjective, it has to be viewed with scepticism and based upon each elements reliability score.

On this merit alone all the evidence for Raxxla is technically unreliable, it’s a thought exercise, so we have to score elements as trustworthy for it to hold a reliable relationship; if that evidence is unreliable - this all is hogwash.

That reality resides always, it can only be made resilient by other supporting information… but we ourselves must remain objective.

None of the evidence is reliable. In the end we cannot say for certain one thing or the other, only build an assessment based on the information provided and make recommendations, it is up to the player to decide if our assessment / recommendations are valid enough, they may not be; assumptions are the things we may not have reliable information for, but we have a degree of experience or informed knowledge to provide subjective insight, if there is insufficient information/reliability, it’s an intelligence gap, or an unknown.

Then there’s tin-foil…

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Mmm, DB has said categorically on livestream “of course Raxxla is in-game. But we don't know what it is”.
So it exists, we don't need to ponder whether or not DW is a reliable witness to what DB said. It’s OBE!
The only thing I ponder about DW’s statements is where he initially reported DB said “and we know why it hasnt been found”. He did not repeat that in his later recollections.
But that is also significant. If FD knew at that time why Raxxla hadn't been found then it supports at least three hypotheses:
1) Raxxla is in a locked system where the permit was not available (I dont believe this hypothesis, it contradicts my own perception of DB and MB as storysetters, and Ascorbius’ report that MB said the system had been visited & honked but Raxxla was not detected). IMHO if it’s in a locked system that permit is obtainable and perhaps obtaining the permit is also part of the “Raxxla storyline”
2) Raxxla is difficult to detect and perhaps you need to be very close to it to detect on ship sensors or detect visually
3) Raxxla is part of a storyline that had not yet unfolded at that time. This fits with the Thargoid/Guardian implications, since neither had been introduced into game at that date. We know from DW (& I cant remember if Alan hinted at this) that Raxxla is part of the alien lore book.

Hypotheses 2 & 3 might well both be true. Or DW’s recollection over this may have been faulty.
 
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*wall of subjective tin-foil text, I’ve had no sleep due to knee injury and wine…

Regards DB statement (first part is a word for word transcript). Even that is subjective; here is how I interpret that statement:

DB “does Raxxla exist…erm there’s an interesting one”

ED - laughs nervously.

DB “what a silly question. Of course….”

ED “I couldn’t have honestly actually probably erm, I could have probably told you the 4 questions that were going to come through ahead of time”

DB “yeah”

DB looks at ED “but you don’t know what it is though”

ED “yeah that’s true, that is it’s true”.

That in hindsight sounds like ED let a question slip the net, that he knew his boss wouldn’t like to have, so he was back tracking a little.

In other stream’s I’ve heard ED use the phrase ‘don’t shoot the messenger’ to DB in relation to livestream questions…

Take what you will from this. To me we could have the following:

DB confirmed it live on air Raxxla does exist.

DB was a little perturbed by the question being raised; why? Who knows. I don’t think he’s telling a falsehood, rather it’s a ‘tell’ that maybe Raxxla isn’t that big a deal, or not a big deal to him, so maybe he’s just annoyed it gets so much press?

The ‘Why’ is speculation, might just be because it’s not his IP, or that it doesn’t fall within their grand narrative?

Doesn’t really mean anything one way or the other, it’s speculation. However in my opinion he’s talking specifically about the order of the questions. Not that we don’t know what Raxxla is…it’s important because to misinterpret the statement generates false positives.

Eg you can’t tell what questions are going to come up in a live stream. Don’t worry about it…but don’t do it again :)

Try slowing the video down, the intent in dialogue presentation really comes through.

Source: https://youtu.be/-f7Zx7WUwF0

In regards to you’re hypothesis; I feel 2 is also likely.

If Drew’s statement about FD knowing why we haven’t found it and Ascorbius statement about someone maybe visited the system are true; that could support the hypothesis that it’s just out there, and someone honked and left, because that is a ‘known’ player behaviour.

Hence why FD know why it hasn’t been found.

Generally and I see this often players are methodical and will map entire systems, however not all. Some players may pick a point, travel straight there and ignore those route systems because their interest is with the end objective, or their time is valuable and they are in a rush (I know I’m guilty of doing this since launch).

It’s interesting because if it’s just out there why all the hub-bub about being a journey?

Maybe the older DW missions did point towards it… but were bugged so eventually removed. That could have been the narrative element referenced by MB.

It’s logical it would perturb DB if Raxxla was nought but an Easter egg…and a bugged element they had to later fix / alter. Just means it’s still out there and just needs to be found.

I think it’s likely honk and go would not detect it, or the practice stopped players properly interrogating a system. I feel it has to detected by close proximity.

I feel many of the elements MB utilised to place Raxxla are still in game, but these are arbitrary references, such as star names and there relevant placement…maybe these all related to his ‘unpublished’ book and some of his general interests… I also held a sneaking suspicion that said book publication was tied to the discovery…

All this may just be irrelevant because following the DW missions being binned there was silence; then the Codex.

To me the Codex is a number of things.
It’s patches over historical lore which has been removed, it patches over the removed DW missions. It sets up potential future narrative or it just says… forget about all that stuff we said… just go out and find it…

But then we have AT statements about a ‘pay off’… that could mean it’s a narrative ‘reveal’… or it’s still just ‘an Easter egg’ and is something which is just cool or interesting…but FD are still just a little annoyed about…because it’s not their IP?

Raxxla is a really interesting question. Because it really isn’t promoted by FD to entice players. Why hasn’t FD exploited it more!

It’s been several years and still it’s not been found; if it was meant to be found and is something amazing, why hasn’t FD exploited this more?

They haven’t. And I suspect it was just a small Easter egg, which has grown in myth and expectation by players, not FD design.

Maybe it is in a locked system. Players have accessed locked systems in the past, which were later fixed. Maybe it is ‘now’ narratively locked.

Maybe it’s in a permit area we can currently unlock and already have, but we just don’t see it, because it’s either SO obvious or still needs to be physically found by close proximity.

Or it’s just in some dull backwater system no one really cares about.

This why I feel confirmation as to if it’s ‘currently accessible’ is relevant. Simply saying ‘it exists’; ‘its in the galaxy’ or just ‘out there’ is a very thin confirmation which is open to speculation.

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Ok so hi guys first of all. I was going through quite a lot of threads regarding the literaly only thing that can be considered official in connection to Raxxla which is this logo.
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Are you sure this is official? I always thought this was made by a CMDR from the Codex.
I think the only official Images related to Raxxla are those two:
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Raxxla2.png


The circle and the dot for Sol do not match in there proportions.
The dot needs to be at least dopple as bold.

Sry for been late at this one. My E-Mail bounced so i was no longer able to reply anywhere in the Forum for almost a week now.

Latest experiment:
Scanned Sols neighbors (same Layer/Masscode Systems whit SystemID 0 but in the 6 neighbors Boxels from Sol) and sold my Data to TDW faction.
Result: nothing

here the Systems: (no particular Raxxla Candidate among them?)
  • Akhenaten (-1 z)
  • HR 5779 (+1 z)
  • Munfayl (-1 y)
  • HIP 60551 (+1 y)
  • Moortic (-1 x)
  • Beta Hydri (+1 x)
 
That's as good a location/area and reason to start from, as any other.

Though, the same/opposite argument could be made that Jaques was "pushed" away from Begal Point area for the same Thargoid reasons, but from an area of space "to the right" or what.e. of Begal Point.... some system more opposite Colonia on the system map...
Basically the Thargoid tech wanted to be as far away as possible from the Constructs.

So both Hyponia/Colonia and points opposite them in the galaxy, could be very good points to start from I guess 🤔 🧐
I think personally with the Guardians being towards the centre and east of the galaxy, and the thargoids to the south (and southwest rift area via lore and the Zarura) placing the constructs out from colonia to the west northwest expands the galaxy further story wise, The NGC locked zone to the north of ETA Carine I beleieve to be where the Guardians originated from or fled to (Maybe still alive? who knows) this leaves the North section (bleie, Prei areas) Expandable for a possible excursion zone for Humanity or maybe even a 4th race we may meet face to face as a potential ally since we already have war, extinction etc.

As for Raxxla, DB never once stated it was in game, he only said it exists, "Of course it does" Thargoids existed in Elite before the first crashed scout was ever placed via lore from the old games, however this doesn't say it is in the game accessible now unfortunately, could be..might not be he never really seems overly keen on Raxxla to be honest...especially since that's the bread and butter of Elite for most of the players which is a bit concerning but may also be his way of hiding clues, he hasnt been online in Elite in 23 days either (I have him in my friends list as I met him ingame before and disabled his drives making him talk to me ingame :ROFLMAO: Tried luring info out but he didn't budge for the guts of 40+ minutes...pun intended so I trew a repair limpet and let him fly away before anymore less eager CMDR's showed up)

As for the point in one direction and fly, iv always been against this from day one, I never take the fastest route, I always set my route to ensure it goes through systems not visited yet even while in the bubble, at this point in my game time of over 4k hours on steam alone though I haven't hit a single non visited system in the bubble in over a year while also I have always ensured iv ad least scanned every planet however come across one or two now and again, maybe these where added additions or missed them with the older system scanning tech
 
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Also may I add i found a somewhat hidden system, only 1 of its name, and unless you type most of its name into the map it wont show, Its under RHO out by the rift but until I get there I wont share the name, its not on EDSM or anywhere else :unsure:

(Edit) just looking at distances, it is just about reachable with 31ly although you have to be very precise with your jumps or you would never path it, auto path does not target with anything less then 40ly jump range and still brings you around it with neutron stars instead which im avoiding
 
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New theory based on what happened to Jaques someone can test, but I don't have the time/corrosive cargo bays, and insurance rebuys 🤣🧐 to try this...


Raxxla exists/connects all of witchspace.
We travel 'thru' Raxxla when we jump.
(Also makes Raxxla a server-sided location/instance to join, not one "hosted" by a playing CMDR. i.e. wont be found while in an system by scanning/looking anywhere, but can be joined while jumping to another system if requirements are met)

Ok. So.

Take a ship, corrosive cargo bays, max out.
Fill up with Thargoid Links (maybe more/other Thargoid tech?)
Head out. Towards Begal Point, Colonia, anywhere in that general direction.

See what happens, the further out you get, the more likelihood?

Is this just a death sentence and pointless?
Or am I onto somthing? 🤔

(All of this could be done with cargo bays full of guardian blueprints for example as well)


Doing this, long range travel to far areas, with full up cargo bays of Thargoid/Guardian most secure items (blueprints have to be 'earned'/worked for, Links/Thargoid tech, have to be 'stolen' from Crashed Thargoids sites).

This could possibly cover the DW requirements for contact as well, for showing skill and daring.

Anyways, the idea is that traveling to far locations with large quantities of some alien tech in cargo, that at some point, you will "mis-jump", like Jaques, and be pulled/pushed into Raxxla (or the system it's within). OR the Dark Wheel might come out of nowhere in your travels and ask you to turn over the cargo in exchange for Membership.? 🧐


Ok. GO!

Edit: I realize this theory ignores any possibility for Raxxla being in the game in any meaningful way since launch, but yea. Just more looking to expand thoughts that might provoke other thoughts and theories more, as well as leaving open the possibility that Raxxla has actually been in game from day one, but the mechanisms to access/find it have changed with time, ie. Used to be the Shin Dez missions, but maybe they were too easy/difficult/bugged?? So they retconed them in favor of another way believed would be more....? ( i don't know what word to say there, lol, more exciting, more dramatic, more hidden, more discoverable... I dont know, lol)

Edit 2: I could/might even try to do it with a bunch of Guardian Blueprints on board
But also, this could be done, with even more likelihood of causing an event, by carrying both Blueprints and Links in high quantities thru long distance exploration/expeditions.

Edit 3: oops, lol, im tired.... Guardian Blueprints are Materials... but anyways.... lol 😆
 
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If Drew’s statement about FD knowing why we haven’t found it and Ascorbius statement about someone maybe visited the system are true; that could support the hypothesis that it’s just out there, and someone honked and left, because that is a ‘known’ player behaviour.

Hence why FD know why it hasn’t been found.

Generally and I see this often players are methodical and will map entire systems, however not all. Some players may pick a point, travel straight there and ignore those route systems because their interest is with the end objective, or their time is valuable and they are in a rush (I know I’m guilty of doing this since launch).

It’s interesting because if it’s just out there why all the hub-bub about being a journey?

Maybe the older DW missions did point towards it… but were bugged so eventually removed. That could have been the narrative element referenced by MB.

It’s logical it would perturb DB if Raxxla was nought but an Easter egg…and a bugged element they had to later fix / alter. Just means it’s still out there and just needs to be found.

I think it’s likely honk and go would not detect it, or the practice stopped players properly interrogating a system. I feel it has to detected by close proximity.

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Well, I can readily imagine DB getting really tetchy over people continually asking if Raxxla exists in-game. Their clear implication is that it’s not and he’s lying when he definitely said it is. In his place I would also be very tetchy, however I’m not so good natured- I would be swearing and cussing them instead of mildly saying “Does Raxxla exist? There's an interesting one, what a silly question, of course”. I think that’s why Ed was a little uneasy, he knew what DB felt about the implication.

Raxxla may indeed also be a very minor Easter Egg and he’s continually surprised that people make such a fuss over it; we also have it on record that FD were surprised that people didn’t play the game in the way they expected us to, so perhaps if we had we would have discovered it by now (he’s also said he knew there are missions that nobody has ever found).

AT is a community manager, so hyping up (possibly unintentional phrasing) a “huge payoff” of finding Raxxla is, I suspect, part of his job to keep people interested in the game, so I don’t put too much weight to that statement. I suspect the payoff is an invitation to tour FD at Cambridge, meet DB etc. I suspect others have already done so, we know FD like NDA so I’m not surprised there are no credible reports of it being found.

I think Raxxla as a word and the original description may or may not be FD’s intellectual property, that would depend on the contractual terms with Holdstock for the original novella. However the implementation of Raxxla in ED is totally their IP, and it may bear little resemblance to Holdstock’s original description.

I think “hard to detect” and “not readily detectable by ship scanner” is highly likely. Since we know (cos IIRC FD told you so in response to your customer support question) that TDW station is not in-game currently then the probable purpose of that part of the codex is to tell us that FD have embedded in-game objects which are not readily detectable, i.e. Raxxla (yet to be found), and comets ( proven, and possibly another hint to Raxxla’s detectability). Given that Raxxla is not readily detectable it could be anywhere in-game and remain hidden, It could be orbiting Jameson Memorial or Earth and still remain undetected!!. I’ve previously shown that at minimum SC speed Raxxla would be very difficult to detect due to the enforced 16 second time between honks. The only thing we have to guide the search is the first rumour report date of 2296, when star travel was in its infancy.

We also have a report that DB was interviewed in a pre-Horizons video and purportedly said when asked about Raxxla:
DB: "- It would be more likely to reveal itself to a group of players."
Interviewer: "- How so?"
DB: "- If you are at the right place and you scan it enough..."
Interviewer: "- Advanced scanner or the basic one?"
DB: "- Basic scanning is enough."
Interviewer: "- But you have to be Elite..."
DB: "- You have to be Elite."

To me this strongly implies 1) it is hard to detect, you’ve got to be very close when you scan it, and 2) it’s in Shinrarta, since (as far as we know) that’s the only place that’s locked to Elite rank. This discussion was reported in https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-Raxxla.168253/post-8194682, however we have never had it confirmed.

As an afterthought, Raxxla might well not be an astronomical body, which as recent posts have pointed out are “discoverable” by consideration of the logfiles; it might be a ship, hidden station/installation or an NPC (maybe a Thargoid Queen? Or Guardian AI Construct? It’s an alien name, and Halsey visualised the real Guardians of the Universe 😉)

P.S. “I’ve had no sleep due to knee injury and wine”, sorry to hear that. Leave off the wine, get yourself a couple of Ibuprofen washed down with a hot chocolate and get a few hours sleep! Oh, and strap the knee up! Apply alternate heat and cold pads, and rest it. And maybe try an NHS walk-in treatment centre, though you may be one of the lucky few who can see their GP without first having to wait two weeks for a telephone conversation....
 
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