Console Profile Transfers and 2022 Updates

[Datan0de]

Actually I do have a pre-order Odyssey.
Bought before they postponed the console release and now applied to my PC account.
Would like to shift it to the main once it gets copied across.
More immediately why is the rum gone?

If that's true, contact FDev support. Assuming you haven't used it yet, I'll bet they'll help you out.

 

[Darrack]

Good to see the future is bright, thanks for the update, i may have to head back to the bubble soon

O7

 

[Datan0de]

Ok thank you, exactly what I wanted to hear. I haven't had a chance to watch the live stream, but that clears it up thank you.+1

So if that's the case: "*Cosmetic items applied through the Livery (ships and Fleet Carriers) and Holo-Me will remain applied."

What other cosmetics aren't applied through the livery? I mean if all cosmetics are transferred why is this entry in the bulleted list asterisked? Why not just have Cosmetics in the list and be done with it. Maybe this is my American sensibilities but when I see an * on an item, it means, "There are conditions or restrictions, something that says, This thing with a BUT."

Here's what they're saying: Everything you bought with Arx will transfer over. Additionally, your ships will transfer over exactly the way they are now, so you won't need to go back into livery after the transfer and re-apply paint jobs, ship kits, etc. That data will be part of what transfers over.

 

[aquilla]

The fact that SC charges real money for in-game ships is the single biggest reason why I will never play SC. It's pay-to-win, and is the bane of good game design. It lets people throw money at a game that's often directly competitive and beat other players with their wallet, rather than their dedication to the game.

On the contrary, Frontier is the model company for Getting It Right when it comes to in-game purchases. When Arx were first announced, I was deeply concerned. As much as I love Elite, if it had become pay-to-win then I would have left. Instead, they made it clear that Arx can only be used to purchase cosmetics that don't affect performance.

In my case at least, it worked. Over the years, I've purchased both the base game and Horizons, and bought Odyssey twice (since I have an Epic alt account that I got for free). And to my surprise, I've spent more on Arx than I have on all of that combined. (My ships, suits, and fleet carrier look good!) Their revenue model works for players like me, and as long as they keep cranking out pretty new things I'll keep being a revenue stream for them.

As an aside, I first became aware of the existence of SC when a friend shared with me a price list for ships, then revealed that it was for real world money. I laughed for 15 minutes solid at the audacity of them to have such a blatant scam. Then I did a little looking into the game and came away genuinely angry at Roberts Space Industries on behalf of their players. Nothing I've seen or heard since then has changed that opinion.

yeah its a big ripoff , also I watched some videos on star citizen , and have yet to see anything interesting being done in the game , I mean so far its just immersion , which is definitely important , its just , the game seems very boring , Lots of bugs and glitches .
I would've bought the game but so far I have yet to see anything fun to do

 

[Datan0de]

Does this console to pc transfer also include a pc that can run Odyssey?
For console players who own a capable pc already this transfer looks pretty okay, for those don't or can't afford a new pc there is no good news at all.
No way you look at it, console players were screwed over imho.

With this roadmap as presented I see no reason at all to purchase a new pc.
Frontier's incompetence in managment has taken all trust I had in them, no way I'm gonna invest again in one of their products.

Honestly, I can't fathom how you can feel that your one-time purchase of a game that you've been playing and enjoying entitles you to expect that the developer, who has graciously offered you a free copy on another platform and the opportunity to copy your game over to that platform, should now also buy you a new computer as well. That's like going through the drive-in at McDonald's, ordering a burger and large fries, driving up to the window, being told that they're out of fries so they'll give you the burger for free, and you demanding that no, they should buy you a new car as well.

Console players were put in a bad spot, and FDev is doing the right and reasonable thing to make it up. To quote the meme, they DID "remember the consoles". It's not a perfect solution for everyone, but it's as much as anyone could reasonably expect, and it's more than most devs would do.

 

[thistle]

As an aside, I first became aware of the existence of SC when a friend shared with me a price list for ships, then revealed that it was for real world money. I laughed for 15 minutes solid at the audacity of them to have such a blatant scam. Then I did a little looking into the game and came away genuinely angry at Roberts Space Industries on behalf of their players. Nothing I've seen or heard since then has changed that opinion.

Yes, this.

 

[Datan0de]

Oh.





Seriously though, there's plenty of awesome Elite content creators to choose from!

I'm not gonna lie. When I read her comment I immediately thought of you. That your response was the next comment in the thread had me rolling on the floor.

 

[Datan0de]

one question about cosmetics, because it has an asterisk and I want it clarified, when you say "Cosmetic items applied through the Livery (ships and Fleet Carriers) and Holo-Me will remain applied."

Here's what they're saying: Everything you bought with Arx will transfer over. Additionally, your ships will transfer over exactly the way they are now, so you won't need to go back into livery after the transfer and re-apply paint jobs, ship kits, etc. That data will be part of what transfers over.

Or to more directly ask the question, Will I have to rebuy all the liveries and build my library up again? If so, can I just submit a ticket of my missing liveries to support and they regrant them?

You won't have to rebuy anything you've bought with Arx.

Or are all these questions moot and my entire livery/shipkit and decal library WILL be copied over??

Yup!

 

[Caydran]

FDev, thank you so much for not hanging us console Cmdrs out to dry. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate the opportunity to transfer to PC. I will continue on on console for the foreseeable future. Really pleased I’ll one day be able to play Odyssey without starting from scratch

o7

I doubt this will be a "forever" thing.

I think it will be a window of opportunity for those console players wanting to do the transfer and already have a PC and Odyssey accounts.

 

[Dutchman141]

Honestly, I can't fathom how you can feel that your one-time purchase of a game that you've been playing and enjoying entitles you to expect that the developer, who has graciously offered you a free copy on another platform and the opportunity to copy your game over to that platform, should now also buy you a new computer as well. That's like going through the drive-in at McDonald's, ordering a burger and large fries, driving up to the window, being told that they're out of fries so they'll give you the burger for free, and you demanding that no, they should buy you a new car as well.

Console players were put in a bad spot, and FDev is doing the right and reasonable thing to make it up. To quote the meme, they DID "remember the consoles". It's not a perfect solution for everyone, but it's as much as anyone could reasonably expect, and it's more than most devs would do.

Wow, you're taking my comment realy very literally.
Of course I don't expect Frontier to gift me a new pc, it's just a jab at leaving so many console players out hanging.
Imho It's due to their incompetence in management that the console version of the game has now been excluded from further content updates.

I said it before, for console players who also own a capable pc this transfer looks pretty okay but there are so many others who see their game stranded, a game they loved to play, like me.
Without any further content updates you're going to fly in circles after so much time simply because there's nothing new to do.
I've got over 4000 hours in this game, spent quite some money on store items, took part in some great events and had tons of fun.
Yes I got my money's worth, I would've loved to continue that journey but due to mismanagement I am now forced to buy a powerful pc if I want to do that, that feels screwed over to be honest.
And frankly speaking, the presented roadmap and the trust I lost in Frontier isn't realy motivating me to buy a new pc, even though I can afford it.

You call me out for being entitled, I'm not, it's their game and they can do whatever they want with it, it's just that I don't have to agree with those choices, which I don't, and in the end it's my money they want but won't get because of those choices.

 

[Datan0de]

Oh fine. What's stopping you from logging into your Odyssey launcher with your console account details once its COPIED?

I have 2 PC accounts (Steam and Epic) that I access on the same PC. For a while, I had Odyssey on the Steam account but not the Epic one. When the launcher was signed in with the Steam account, Odyssey is one of the launch options. When I signed in with Epic, it wasn't. Even when I aliased one install directory to the other to save space, so both were literally running the same application, Odyssey wasn't available if I was signed into the launcher with the Epic account.

I subsequently bit the bullet and bought Odyssey for Epic as well, and now it appears for both.

 

[Datan0de]

And for those of us who can't afford a PC I'm assuming Frontier are just giving us the finger then? Thanks for buying, playing, purchasing customisations for pilots, ships and srvs...but now your hooked we aren't bothered about you? Cheers guys

It's not that they don't care about you. Their transfer offer + free copy of Horizons on PC makes that pretty clear.

Given that making Odyssey playable on consoles wasn't possible, how do you think FDev should proceed? I'm genuinely curious to know what response from them would've made you happy without also forcing them to split limited resources and further slow down development of the game as a whole.

 

[Datan0de]

Kind of like how I lost access to the Cobra Mk IV it will always be a thorn in my side being reminded it isn't there anymore.

Ouch! How did that happen?

 

[Tikanderoga]

Following the launch of Odyssey, our primary focus has been on performance, optimisation and bug fixing, along with adding more features. This focus has had a knock-on effect with regards to our plans for this year and beyond and delayed our communications.

Mainly because this is/was a beta product for a long time, since after the alpha, the software got sent to publish instead of doing a proper beta.
This move has cost you guys so much community goodwill and players, and in correlation also a massive loss of stock price. But instead of doing the right thing of an apology, the company just "went their own way, hopefully things will blow over". It didn't go down well with the player base or your content creators.

Here we present our top-level roadmap for the remainder of 2022. Our three focuses before the year ends are launching the next phase of the narrative, stability and optimisation. We’ll release three more updates to support these.

Within the narrative, human space balances on the precipice as tension mounts within the bubble. The Azimuth Saga will conclude in a grand finale event, the consequences of which will mark the beginning of the next stage of the Elite story in Update 14.

Meanwhile, updates 12 and 13 will largely focus on quality-of-life changes, stability and optimisation. Work has also begun on a major feature overhaul for 2023 that we’ll discuss later in the year.

So the focused engineering feedback from last year was for what again?

This roadmap is very very thin tbh. it is meant to say something, but it isn't.
We know update 12, 13 and 14 are coming - great. What you guys are working on is still a mystery.

We hope this post clarifies our continued support and plans for Elite.

Yep, it does. See you 2023. Maybe.

 

[Raxiel]

I have 2 PC accounts (Steam and Epic) that I access on the same PC. For a while, I had Odyssey on the Steam account but not the Epic one. When the launcher was signed in with the Steam account, Odyssey is one of the launch options. When I signed in with Epic, it wasn't. Even when I aliased one install directory to the other to save space, so both were literally running the same application, Odyssey wasn't available if I was signed into the launcher with the Epic account.

I subsequently bit the bullet and bought Odyssey for Epic as well, and now it appears for both.

It was the same with Base game/horizons back before horizons was baseline, the game 'mode' selector only became available once you'd logged in.

Horizons and the base game shared a directory in the 'products' folder of the install directory, while Odyssey is separate.

 

[Old Duck]

This thread reminds of french fries from McDonalds - way more salt than I was expecting.

 

[Raxiel]

Wow, you're taking my comment realy very literally.
Of course I don't expect Frontier to gift me a new pc, it's just a jab at leaving so many console players out hanging.
Imho It's due to their incompetence in management that the console version of the game has now been excluded from further content updates.

I said it before, for console players who also own a capable pc this transfer looks pretty okay but there are so many others who see their game stranded, a game they loved to play, like me.
Without any further content updates you're going to fly in circles after so much time simply because there's nothing new to do.
I've got over 4000 hours in this game, spent quite some money on store items, took part in some great events and had tons of fun.
Yes I got my money's worth, I would've loved to continue that journey but due to mismanagement I am now forced to buy a powerful pc if I want to do that, that feels screwed over to be honest.
And frankly speaking, the presented roadmap and the trust I lost in Frontier isn't realy motivating me to buy a new pc, even though I can afford it.

You call me out for being entitled, I'm not, it's their game and they can do whatever they want with it, it's just that I don't have to agree with those choices, which I don't, and in the end it's my money they want but won't get because of those choices.

Consoles are cheap because they're commodity items, they expire. There was always going to come a time when the launch platforms couldn't keep up and players had to buy something new.

You're not 'forced to buy a powerful PC' My 2016/17 system can run Odyssey, but either way a road map shoudn't determine your purchases for any game, be it Elite Dangerous or Anthem or any of the other 'live services'. Judge it on what it's like now. If you want to play it, there's a cost of entry. If you don't want to play it, then you've not lost out.

 

[knowles2]

Did they say there would be one?

Yes they said they would be talking about their plans for 2022, that to me is a road map, from the looks of things, an they have indeed produce a road map, it just a very very empty one, even emptier than I thought it would. An I thought this year would be primary bug fixing but I was hoping for something to get the community excited like comets or clouds/weather, something to get the community juices flowing again.

 

[sebastienmoulin]

Hello,
this is great news for console players like myself
I already have a PC account, which is quite recent.
My console profile is way more advanced, did all my grinding there.
Please tell me that you will be able to transfer to an existing account / profile.
I do not want or need yet another account/profile.

I assume you can add the credit and take the best value for rankings, reputation to be set in the destination profile.
Hopefully you will be able to do this kind of operations.

thanks again !
looking forward for the date when this is available

 

[D J B Nando]

Consoles are cheap because they're commodity items, they expire. There was always going to come a time when the launch platforms couldn't keep up and players had to buy something new.

You're not 'forced to buy a powerful PC' My 2016/17 system can run Odyssey, but either way a road map shoudn't determine your purchases for any game, be it Elite Dangerous or Anthem or any of the other 'live services'. Judge it on what it's like now. If you want to play it, there's a cost of entry. If you don't want to play it, then you've not lost out.

Or if you can't or don't want to pay this entry price, you can just use geforce now as well, it does have ED on it's list.