Have they moved in to their swanky new Manchester digs yet ? It was scheduled to happen this month wasnt it ?
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This. Their business model is opportunisticly predatory, but any conspiracy about 'grooming children to become cultists' is, frankly, insane.
While I have little doubt that newcomers are enjoying the game, because even taking all the jank into account there's still much to be impressed about for at least a few hours, do you also realise those numbers you keep lapping up as the holy word carved in stone by the Saviour, could also be made up for a large part? What's the official source for these numbers? Who's the auditor? Yes, they have financial reports (they have to, and that's also the reason for the shell companies I guess), but have those numbers ever been confirmed in their entirety by actual, external, undisputable accounting sources?
Do you really think they'd remotely have any interest in showing a shrinking, or even just slowing chart if that eventually happened? It's marketing 101, people are far more probable to enter a shop or restaurant if they can see there are already customers inside, than if the place appears empty.
And I'm not saying SC isn't racking in funding, of course they are doing and it's even easy to guess they could still be decent numbers, between starter packages, people genuinely interested in supporting the project and whales, but who should I trust on the reliability of the numbers CiG pulls out? CiG itself? Do you really see those numbers, knowing full well the predatory marketing schemes the company has put to good use in all these years, and think without the shadow of a flinch "these numbers are 100% true to reality, it can't be any other way, they'd never touch up the funding, best month ever"? Every time?
That's the kind of gullibility people are talking about. Never trust such numbers, from any company, until they can be officially audited and verified from external sources. And stay suspicious even then.
My personal opinion (happy to be proven wrong by official sources I'm not aware of, and I mean it), they are surely getting funded somehow, but that funding chart they push out to the masses is complete pie in the sky.
Bed sheets are on a bed, and yes: CIG do teleport players to beds.
Nothing to discuss here. If you think CIG lie about this numbers I can do nothing about it.
Just to remind you that in this thread from 2021 january to 2021 september, everybody was 100% sure that all this numbers where true. I let you find by yourself the reason.
Only Sith deal in absolutes.
I didn't say you are not allowed to believe those numbers, I said if you do without ever questioning them or asking for a source, it's definitely a show of gullibility. I don't care who did or didn't that. And I don't care about the reason, not the point of my reply to you, but I can see how hard it is to not go the whatabout way.
Lol, wrong again
For example:
June 2021
Besides the funding tracker not being any real indicator of what backers are actually spending...I would suggest it's more an indicator of Ci¬G's projected income across the board. We don't know how much is brought in and where from, how much is shuffled between the various shell companies, how much is trickle fed from investor's capital or how much is going straight back out the door again... or even how much is marked up for salaries, taxes, rents and business sundries and how much of what's left is actually being used for development...Ci¬G haven't really been that good at divulging any firm financial data at all besides their rather vague UK filings.
The funding tracker is like me writing my farm accounts on the back of a cigarette packet, probably just as accurate too
So lets do some maths.
Based on the community created spreadsheet, for 2022 they have had 271,934 new accounts. We know 1/3rd get converted to actual paying backers (as per CR's statement) so that would account for 90645 new paying backers. The amount raised so far this year is $30.36 million.
Approximately 85% of customers never pay anything over the standard entry fee, so 77050 would only spend $45 accounting for $3.46 million
Leaving almost $27 million from 13,600 new backers, requiring each and every one to spend almost $2000.
The other way to see where they make their money is to look at their marketing. Do they create and market cool low priced ships to entice backers with only a small barrier to entry or is it aimed elsewhere?
We all know the answer to this.
He's indicating the size of the next jpeg that's going on sale.
(Apologies...)
#sorrynotsorry
Math is lost on him. He struggles already with the concept of "less and less" bugs each patch after patch.
As much as I'm content to fire condescending insults and lay blame for practically anything SC related on Ci¬G's marketing snakes and the cult of latter day whaley-bois...whether they deserve it or not...that's way too much tinfoilhattery even for me
I really should leave off with insulting the whaleys though...since I used to be one... and I'm at the 'small angry dolphin' stage this time around. Scary, isn't it?
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Everytime I hear someone say "math", I always think in my head "Maths!"
Does SC have British speaking NPCs? The bartenders sound very Americanised to me.
It's a bit like desperately trying not to shout... "The word 'Herbs' doesn't have a silent H!" Every time I hear it
Maths seems correct to us in the UK in any case...since it's a shortened term for mathematics.
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Yes, that was the jokeMaths seems correct to us in the UK in any case...since it's a shortened term for mathematics...
It just confuses me. I was told to properly -th- and then comes some dude and pronounces it "maf".