That only works until they breed.
Edit: Not to mention it's a poor solution regardless, because the game still points at it and says "Bengal tiger" no matter how hard you make believe.
What’s your thoughts on another tiger?
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Edit: Not to mention it's a poor solution regardless, because the game still points at it and says "Bengal tiger" no matter how hard you make believe.
Fair enough but, given that we're never going to get all the animals that everyone wants, at some point we have to make do with stand-ins for some (sub)species and do the best we can with what we have. The reason I don't want Sumatran tigers (a better way to put it would be to say that Sumatran tigers are a long way down my priority list) is that, more than most other missing species (or many subspecies), they can be represented by current animals (i.e., the Bengal tiger) comparatively well. In contrast, I could fairly easily list 100 animals that I'd like in game which couldn't be represented nearly as well - either because, compared to animals currently in-game, they have a very different appearance, very different climatic requirements, or just come from a different continent (and, therefore, have different foliage requirements) that would be higher on my priority list. Even in terms of 'clone' animals (depending on how loosely they're defined), i can can think of quite a few I'd rather have for this reason. Consequently, I would consider the Sumatran tiger, very much, a 'wasted' slot.
Edit: Also,.. I'm unsure of the specifics of how the in-game genetics of size works but I'd expect two small parents to (in general) have smaller than average offspring - is that not how the genetics for size works in-game? Even if it isn't, it's not hard to sell-off over sized offspring and either breed more or purchase smaller ones as replacements.
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That was never in question. This is a thread gauging who would want a Sumatran tiger, though.
I'd take it over a lot of the wishlist animals. Honestly, I thought you'd be more into the idea, as you'd be hard-pressed finding a Bengal or Siberian in Australia. There's also the point that neither of the current tigers look especially good, so a refreshing new one would mitigate that (again, likewise with the lion, or even another brown bear).
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Welll. If you want to read it that way then yes. I like Sumatran tigers. If there were infinite animals to add then, yes, totally, add the Sumatran. However, since we know that isn’t the case, we have to prioritise. IMO (and fair enough that you disagree) the bengal tiger can do a pretty good at representing the Sumatran. Given this, and on the understanding that support is limited (though will hopefully last a lot longer), there are many, many, many animals higher on my priority list. Even with just the cats, serval, caracal, ocelot, fishing cat, and many others are a higher priority (since they would fill currently empty niches). Even for subspecies, a Persian or Arabian leopard, or even an African leopard (which I also don’t want) are higher priority, since they add to gameplay in a way that the Sumatran tiger just doesn’t (Asian tropical big cat niche).
Things that are higher on my priority list include virtually any new species and even a fair number of morphologically, climatically or geographically distinct subspecies.
At some point, close enough is good enough and this is one of those instances (IMO).
Things that are higher on my priority list include virtually any new species and even a fair number of morphologically, climatically or geographically distinct subspecies.
At some point, close enough is good enough and this is one of those instances (IMO).
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Here’s my opinion
I will take the Sumatran tiger but as a free animal. I personally don’t want it to take a dlc spot that can go to something we don’t have. I think we have covered a lot of bases with big felines, if we get anymore I would prefer a feline with a continent/biome combo we currently do not have.
Example getting another fox, I liked getting the Arctic fox as it is very different from fennec fox both continent and biome wise. I didn’t approve of the spectacled caiman as it is nothing new to us, same biome and continent as dwarf caiman yet larger and can have more then 2 (I think dwarf should increase number tolerance). In conclusion I will happily take another fox, wolf, crocodilian, bear, feline etc provided their biome or continent differentiates from previous additions.
While the bengal tiger has grassland and tropical, the Sumatran would definitely be tropical. Yes India and SEA are different regions and tigers are only found in Asia.
In the end I will take Sumatran tiger
I will take the Sumatran tiger but as a free animal. I personally don’t want it to take a dlc spot that can go to something we don’t have. I think we have covered a lot of bases with big felines, if we get anymore I would prefer a feline with a continent/biome combo we currently do not have.
Example getting another fox, I liked getting the Arctic fox as it is very different from fennec fox both continent and biome wise. I didn’t approve of the spectacled caiman as it is nothing new to us, same biome and continent as dwarf caiman yet larger and can have more then 2 (I think dwarf should increase number tolerance). In conclusion I will happily take another fox, wolf, crocodilian, bear, feline etc provided their biome or continent differentiates from previous additions.
While the bengal tiger has grassland and tropical, the Sumatran would definitely be tropical. Yes India and SEA are different regions and tigers are only found in Asia.
In the end I will take Sumatran tiger
However, even as a free animal (of which we'd also only get limited slots of, if we even get more free animals at all) I'd much rather have other animals that fill a new niche.
For example, the wisent (European forest-dwelling bison).
Or the dromedary (desert representation for MENA and Australia)
For example, the wisent (European forest-dwelling bison).
Or the dromedary (desert representation for MENA and Australia)
I’m fine with people saying they don’t want a Sumatran tiger and that it would result in a more distinct animal missing out, I get that.
But I don’t think it’s ok to say, use a different animal and pretend. I’m very picky about what animals I use. If I won’t use the Malayan tapir on account of it not being a Malayan tapir then there is really no way I will use a Bengal tiger and pretend it’s Sumatran.
But I don’t think it’s ok to say, use a different animal and pretend. I’m very picky about what animals I use. If I won’t use the Malayan tapir on account of it not being a Malayan tapir then there is really no way I will use a Bengal tiger and pretend it’s Sumatran.
I'm the same (well maybe not about the malayan tapir, for me is enough it has it's colour scheme and is named as such in game, with the information compatible to it... even though i agree it needs a remodel).
But i don't use X animal pretending is Y animal.
Also i do use mods when they are good, almost Frontier level, and remasters help with things like the malayan tapir.
I know that in an ideal world we would get four or seven unique new habitat animal species in every single pack, but that just isn’t realistic or feasible... In almost every pack, we are guaranteed at least 1-2 re-skin animals. It’s almost certain. I think that a Sumatran Tiger would be a great re-skin animal for us to get, as it would give people options when deciding how to theme their Asian areas (e.g. Southeast Asia, India, China...). I think adding new species of animals is very important, and obviously should be the PRIORITY. But, I do think that the Sumatran Tiger would be a great option for a low-effort animal in a DLC to allow for much higher effort animals e.g. an Islands DLC pack that included the highly requested but difficult to make West Indian Manatee would need a low-effort animal like the Sumatran Tiger to balance it out. I certainly wouldn’t complain!
Ok let's be fair though... they maybe "clones" when it comes to rigs and animations, but other than the arctic wolf, some bear and the malayan tapir the new animals aren't JUST reskinned. They are all very well modeled. And the models are different and well done, even if they are essentially the same animal we already have in terms of animations, behaviours and representation.
Yes very true. Absolutely agree; the majority of the ‘clone’ animals are wonderfully done and all add something to the game. But compared to something like a Manatee, a Sumatran Tiger would be much easier to make. I’m not saying it’s be a piece of cake, but it’d certainly require much less work and therefore would be a comparitively easier and very welcome addition!
I would unironically riot if i saw a sumatran tiger in a normal animal pack.
And not in a good way and also for sure with the majority of the community doing the same.
Yes, the dlc have low effort animals,cant deny that, but they should atleast take ones with arleast somewhat unique gameplay or that would flesh out an underrepresented group for example a monkey.
They could give me five more capuchins and i couldnt be happier, because we simply do not have anywhere close to a decent amount of small monkeys.
Big cats? No more pls, thank you, thats literally the most fleshed out group in the game by far in relation to how many species of them exist.
We got all of them, we even got 2 subspecies for one and we really do not need more ever again.
In a literal low effort animal pack?
Sure why not.
In an actual normal one? Hell no
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We do have a capuchin though
But i prefer other types of monkey: howler, spider, squirrel, tamarin, colobus, etcI think that's the point, capuchins are actually different species, recently they were even split up into two different genus.We do have a capuchin though
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The Colombian White Faced Capuchin Monkey is part of the Gracile Capuchin Monkeys, and the Tufted Capuchin is a Robust Capuchin Monkey, being the most popular capuchin besides, and is a bit more likely to make an appearance in the game
Would anyone like to see all the living tiger subspecies in the game excluding the South China Tiger?
If we get all the subspecies, there will be a better variety to choose from.
If we get all the subspecies, there will be a better variety to choose from.