Update 13, Narrative and Access to 4.0

3.8 won't be having any time or money spent on it, while 4.0 and Ody will. I think that's what they mean by 'saving money'. 3.8 will essentially be like the console version is now, no further development, but you will still have the choice to play that if you want. Console players can still play, just no new stuff developed for it, and I think the same will go for 3.8. But we will see, "sometime after Update 13". 🤷‍♂️

the cost for 3.8 and 4.0 existing concurrently really occur in the maintaining of the backend and reconciling differences in the engines in dealing with the servers. At least that's what Fdev has historically referred to as problem areas and costly concerns when discussing the split.

I'm sure there are some costs related to maintaining two branches of the client for content updates (especially if they would require new texture assets) but considering most of that cost only occurs around specific updates - but the cost of maintaining the separate server aspects of 3.8 and 4.0 is constant....i'm thinking there is much less realization of savings than you'd think.
 
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I haven't read the entire thread yet but with Horizons 3.8, Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey, There better not be THREE versions of Open-play segregated from each other.

If there is, it will absolutely be a huge nail in the coffin of PvP. You cannot expect Powerplay PvP pilots to be checking three separate live versions of the game just to encounter players...
 
What kind of hardware are they using? I heard that Ody performs worse on better hardware (as weird as that sounds). For me, I play Ody without problems or performance issues (apart from the odd frame drop when arriving at a station). Granted, I only have a 1080p 60Hz monitor, but using High and Very High details, I still get anywhere between 50-60 FPS on my old AMD FX9590 and Vega56 GPU. From what I've read, high end Nvida and AMD GPUs seem to have performance issues with Ody, but lower end stuff doesn't. 🤷‍♂️
Yep to this, im still running Ody on an old 1070 with no issues at all, no stutter, no slow down 🤷‍♂️

O7
 
I haven't read the entire thread yet but with Horizons 3.8, Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey, There better not be THREE versions of Open-play segregated from each other.

If there is, it will absolutely be a huge nail in the coffin of PvP. You cannot expect Powerplay PvP pilots to be checking three separate live versions of the game just to encounter players...

powerplay PvP that's not coordinated is a myth on par with bigfoot. It almost never happened organically even when there was only 1 version.
 
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Although I am looking forward to the September data copy, I am still concerned.


Specifically where you (FDEV) says PC is moving to 4.0


Could you clarify if Console will recieve this QOL update as well or if it's going to be left in the past and abandoned?

While I love the idea of playing on PC, I've been playing on Next Gen Console that supports better components then many PC players currently use and I enjoy being able to play with that level of quality. On the otherhand, using my 32" MSI ultrawide at it's native resolution will be awesome and I look forward to putting my laptop through the ropes in space exploration.

o7
 
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Please consider an option to uninstall client 3.8.

Elite Dangerous currently occupies 70 GB, more than Cyberpunk 2077, and update 13 will likely make it even larger. Uninstalling client 3.8 would free up 20 GB.
 
Waaaay too soon.


Should just start a new game, Frontier, Land of the many colored snakes.

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It is the Thargoids Ultimate weapon against humans.
Destroy the game so no-one can win.


Makes a person wonder
when you have something that works, why mess with it? Why do you want so badly to not test stuff better and keep wasting time?

If your intent is to force cmdrs to give NVidia more money, then go for it.

I have to ask, does Frontier have shares with Nvidia?
Is it beyond reason to show proof that the graphic problems are fixed before destroying what is left of the player base????


well, does not look quite like the merge we were told about, so , some good news.
 
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powerplay PvP that's not coordinated is a myth on par with bigfoot. It almost never happened organically even when there was only 1 version.
It does happen, albeit rare. Us imperials fought off a federal protection wing in Odyssey last night in one of Winters Expansions.
Not just Powerplay PvP either, just general PvP. If I want to go looking for federal pilots to engage, I shouldn't be forced to check 3 instances of the game when in reality it should only be one. One game, one instance of Open.
 
Nothing about how this will affect concole players?
Will we still get Cg's, gal net news that is relevant to us etc...?
This is important for those of us who need such information before making a decision to completely leave console gaming for this game and in some cases, (mine) buy a PC just to play one game. Not trying to sound too jaded but the lack of info at times is sooooo frustrating.
Anything that could clear some of this up would be great.
Have not been here in awhile, but have recently got some of our console group back into playing casually so if there is info on this somewhere I have missed, any links would be greatly appreciated.
The Jade is real!
 
Please consider an option to uninstall client 3.8.

Elite Dangerous currently occupies 70 GB, more than Cyberpunk 2077, and update 13 will likely make it even larger. Uninstalling client 3.8 would free up 20 GB.
There already is an option to do so. Select the version of the game you no longer want on your HDD, then go to Options at the top of the launcher. Near the bottom of the dropdown list is 'Uninstall Game'. The tooltip for this say it will uninstall the currently selected game, and user files (like saves) will not be affected.
 

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According to the table, EDH 4.0 players can see non atmospheric planet settlements (presumably from a ship or SRV).
  • Does that mean they can also see NPCs walking around those settlements? Or even shoot them from the ship/SRV?
  • Can EDO 4.0 players then also instance with EDH 4.0 players there?
  • More generally can EDO 4.0 players then also instance with EDH 4.0 players at all outside thin atmosphere planets?
 
Tons of PS5s have been sold across Europe in the last few weeks.

I think Frontier will regret its decision.

Console players will get free copies of Elite when they move.

Wouldn't it be wiser to sell Odyssey to all those hundreds of thousands of new NextGen players? 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Waaaay too soon.


Should just start a new game, Frontier, Land of the many colored snakes.

.
It is the Thargoids Ultimate weapon against humans.
Destroy the game so no-one can win.


Makes a person wonder
when you have something that works, why mess with it? Why do you want so badly to not test stuff better and keep wasting time?

If your intent is to force cmdrs to give NVidia more money, then go for it.

I have to ask, does Frontier have shares with Nvidia?
Is it beyond reason to show proof that the graphic problems are fixed before destroying what is left of the player base????


well, does not look quite like the merge we were told about, so , some good news.
I think you've misread the post. Nothing is changing for Horizons as v3.8. You will still be able to do everything in that version that you can do in Horizons right now. You will be given a choice to use Horizons as a v4.0 if you wish. It's not being forced on you. You don't have to use it... Well, of course, unless you want to participate in the narrative from now on that is...
At least that's how I'm reading it anyway. To enjoy narrative after the Azimuth Saga, you'll need to use Horizons 4.0, and 3.8 won't(?) get any. Buuutttt... I could be wrong about that part, that's just my interpretation of the original post. 🤷‍♂️
 
Tons of PS5s have been sold across Europe in the last few weeks.

I think Frontier will regret its decision.

Console players will get free copies of Elite when they move.

Wouldn't it be wiser to sell Odyssey to all those hundreds of thousands of new NextGen players? 🤷🏻‍♂️
Why would we want EDO ?? Fdev is hoping that the transfer of consoles to PC will net then some EDO sales aswell .
Next will be 3.8 will not be BGS affiliated with EDO lite .
Fdev have written off consoles whether we like it or not . 3.8 is EDH nothing new and only critical fixes for a bit .
 
my read of the OP and the linked post was that 3.8 wont even be a thing accessible to players. 4.0 horizons will exist and odyssey will remain a separate "optional" dlc.

Oh My GOD. They downgraded Odyssey to " Optional " - So Horizon 4.0 will become the main game?
This will certainly not look good on Odyssey reviews on Steam.
Since it's " Optional " - that mean no more on foot content, right?
 

Viajero

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Oh My GOD. They downgraded Odyssey to " Optional " - So Horizon 4.0 will become the main game?
This will certainly not look good on Odyssey reviews on Steam.
Since it's " Optional " - that mean no more on foot content, right?
I may have misunderstood you but EDO, as the DLC it is, has always been optional. Much like Horizons was also optional while it was a DLC of the base vanilla game. EDH, while it was a DLC, also got a ton of content added to it.
 
I think you've misread the post. Nothing is changing for Horizons as v3.8. You will still be able to do everything in that version that you can do in Horizons right now. You will be given a choice to use Horizons as a v4.0 if you wish. It's not being forced on you. You don't have to use it... Well, of course, unless you want to participate in the narrative from now on that is...
At least that's how I'm reading it anyway. To enjoy narrative after the Azimuth Saga, you'll need to use Horizons 4.0, and 3.8 won't(?) get any. Buuutttt... I could be wrong about that part, that's just my interpretation of the original post. 🤷‍♂️
no, I got that, I edited most of my post out. it was much worse till my lack of caffeine brain realized what it was really reading.....
Its still disconcerting, its just another step closer to the final doom merge.

Kind wish they had not put anything there about the storyline.

Bad enough that some stories are dead and people blame fdev, when in reality in so many cases clues were not found, leads were not followed, not fdev's fault.
I get that this one is important, but jeez, nothing like spilling the beans in a freaking forum before the event.
 
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