Correct, all atmosphere types are now modelled in game by Stellar forge the behind the scenes work is done and it is now just a matter of "tweaking parameters" on how the different atmospheres impact the game e.g. they decided not to impact the flight model with the neglible atmospheres in Odyssey and it is precisely because all the fundamentals were in place that they were able to decide this close to launch. One thing that is uncertain is is it linked to local weather systems and how far down the line is that development which I assume would be required even at a basic level as we get access to thicker more dynamic atmospheres.
Update 13, Narrative and Access to 4.0
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Correct, all atmosphere types are now modelled in game by Stellar forge the behind the scenes work is done and it is now just a matter of "tweaking parameters" on how the different atmospheres impact the game e.g. they decided not to impact the flight model with the neglible atmospheres in Odyssey and it is precisely because all the fundamentals were in place that they were able to decide this close to launch. One thing that is uncertain is is it linked to local weather systems and how far down the line is that development which I assume would be required even at a basic level as we get access to thicker more dynamic atmospheres.
Not only necro'd but also ninja'd...
that's nice in theory. But in practicality, fdev uses these "dlc's" as rolling out the progression the main narrative and evolution of gameplay experienced in the primary game (not an optional offshoot like cqc or some side-mission narrative).
This has been the historic MO for these paid updates - except cqc - so far. No reason to assume that's changing. Odyssey is only Optional if you dont really care about playing the full game or continuing to participate in the narrative. Same as horizons was only optional in the same way (though the content you missed there is likely to be far less important than what you'll be missing without odyssey).
Ninja'd?Not only necro'd but also ninja'd...
I knew someone would've already answered, but if there's one thing I've learned here, it's that if a piece of totally incorrect misinformation serves the purpose of continuing to mock the game, it will endure and gain traction. I wanted it in stark terms that this criticism is completely incorrect.
They have apparently removed charging for pushing updates. However, they still charge for a lot of other things. For one, 30% of every sale. "Visibility" ( an ad on the storefront ) starts at $25,000. And plenty of other nickle and dime fees, such as errors and ommissions insurance for thousands, foreign ratings boards like PEGI/USK that each console has to certify the game with are a couple more thousands.
A crap game and a bug filled POS are two different things.
Sony removed CP2077 due to complaints from PS4 owners. Let's try not to revise history, shall we? https://www.playstationlifestyle.ne...erpunk-2077-playstation-store-tough-decision/
Yep. And just like Horizons, when the next expansion gets ready to plop down, what's left of Odyssey ( it's seriously not even a full expansion now and definitely not worth the price of admission, even less than it was before ) will be rolled into the game same as Horizons was before it.
Tell it QA engineers
Can I haz your stuphz when you leave?
I'm an officially licensed BottomHat subsidy if that makes you feel more comfortable.
Doomed was so much simpler in my day.
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There's been precisely 1 (one) paid DLC released for ED.
I don't think you can claim an 'historic MO' based off that.
That's an interesting take to consider that trying to make it work for consoles was a large factor, among others, in the delay of Odyssey. I tend to think that it was covid/wfh that was a largest factor in it, and probably still would especially seeing as it came right where crunch time would have been, but for sure I can see how trying to develop the expansion to work across platforms could contribute to certain issues with it.
I remember paying for two.
Me too. Obtained my first City & Guilds in Information Technology (way before the cool I.T was used) back in 1991. Then went on to systems engineer and hardware configuring and troubleshooting. I can tell you that I have a high end system and Odyssey runs flawlessly (in VR) and has since Oddy released. (I had a 2080Ti on launch day) I have never suffered the problems that other high system users claimed to have. In fact since Odyssey's launch I have never opened Horizons since.
There are many reasons why a self declared "great" setup (most think only of GPU, CPU & RAM amount) can have problems with not just this title but many. It could be that they have a - on paper good system, but the important Mainboard or Power supply are woefully inadequate. Prebuilds are notorious for corner cutting but as you are aware, many people see numbers and think "It's a great system" Many think 30 series must be better than an old 20 series GPU because it's newer and higher clocked etc... Even if they have a 3050 (Some just don't understand the last 2 power numbers) Also, many I see reporting poor performance don't always put up their full specs. Then you have the Laptop gamers, who are unaware of the disparity between desktop and mobile GPU'S. The motherboard is the heart of any system, and my guess is that these great systems with massive problems are lacking in quality components, and a high end board capable, along with the Power supply of providing a reliable amount of juice to serve up a pleasurable experience.
I see this so many times on the ED reddit (spit...I know) subs. They have the latest gaming powerhouse with a 3060 and 32GB, they just don't realise that the crap bundled with it is hampering their enjoyment.... But, yeah anyway, as I said, have been with Odyssey from launch, never had any running problems with it. I just build my rigs with quality bits. Also I can't remember where, but I read on some forum that the latest Intels are way above performance in ED than big red. Can't confirm as I only use Intels.
I say Make Amiga Great Again.
well, if U followed the thread, You´ll have noticed that I corrected myself earlier already, my remark applies for med orbitals nevertheless is true......
Not a big issue anyhow (at least for me), also wouldn´t have been if my remark for FC would have been correct.
Ha! Just saw this. o7
A MEN!
Please accept my humble apologies...I shall wallow in my wrongness for the remainder of the day...
Was that @MacIntoc 's screenshot? Well, I never.. It's an unfortunate bug and I hope it will be resolved as soon as it can be. Still doesn't invalidate my point though. There was the infamous 500lyr jump bug in Frontier, still waiting for that one to be fixed, however. So, more complicated software = more bugs, but bugs are even being fixed more now than back then, so ironically, it adds another element to refute OPs claim that no-one cares these days.Ironically, had that second screenshot been taken just a few minutes later, it would have shown the star being incorrectly rendered in front of the gas giant:
Do we see the star throught the planet ? Where am i wrong ?
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Just one of the many 'graphical improvements' that Horizons 4.0 players can look forward to.