Their spacecraft are of organic nature - so they are no more spacecraft, than a bird with a messge attached to it's leg is a mail plane.
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... They're also deliberately engineered to be that way, not randomly evolved.
Probably because they are allergic to space soy. So far as I can tell, they are intelligent enough to know that if they went for your system, humanity probably wouldn't care. However, what you fail to realize is just because they hadn't arrived yet, it by no means indicates that they wouldn't arrive. The offer still stands to facilitate the convention between you and our, not so neighborly, neighbors.
Those who follow your train of thought have much talk about the subject, yet very little action nor ideas on how to even accomplish what you claim you can do.
Quite neighborly of us to think taking what is not ours was a sign of kindness to the Thargoids. Yet we humans like Salvation willing to sacrifice anything and under false pretenses much what INRA did to Cmdr Jameson. Those in power during those times had something to gain. Power, power over not just them but each other. This doesn't end with just the Thargoids it will go back to Feds and Imps fighting over something trivial just as long the body numbers count and the status quo continues.
Thargoids however are a Hivemind they have a single thought controlled by one that controls them. Not one Thargoid seen during a interdiction has ever step out of that single thought. Does the ship have something does not belong to them or not. Not one single ship was lost when it wasn't carrying alien tech not one.
It's been like that for years until humans were given those AX weapons. Deception has always been apart of the game to the powers when they want something that isn't theirs.
Okay so here is an idea for you to mull over. And I will entertain yours and Julians thoughts for a second... To be fair I was debating this subject with another commander a little bit ago. Mull this over for a minute because I hadn't thought about it from this angle.
I will not fully concede that the death of the thargoids who kill humans should not be warranted, however, after reviewing the media provided and watching what transpired I too have some thoughts about the situation.
I suppose you could play an audio montage of system honks, boosts, clicks and whirs from in-game sounds at them while they hyperdict you, em pulse you, swarm you, and pound you with their weapons.
Oh I know, feed them a bunch of humans - that will work.
No No No - meta alloys - that's the trick. Feeding the barbarians always kept them at bay.
Try feeding them hulk shards, because that's new.
Um' no. I'll keep my guns warmed up thank you.
Oh I know, feed them a bunch of humans - that will work.
No No No - meta alloys - that's the trick. Feeding the barbarians always kept them at bay.
Try feeding them hulk shards, because that's new.
Um' no. I'll keep my guns warmed up thank you.
I know I am not the only one who had mental images of a certain helicopter from that phrase. Well played commander, well played.
The Proteus Wave, that was built using a Thargoid site, integrating Guardian Tech (Thargoids worse fear). Proteus Wave was made to be a WMD to wipe out a species that was the plan. What better outcome could come from salvaging untouched tech not damaged. INRA tried that and ended turning someone inside out in the processes of learning how they travel between space.
What you see is the truth what they say is false. You can not deny a picture but you can certainly try to feed false context to the picture. But without the context of what is said I see a Thargoid Site being used as a weapon using other alien tech. Which still lead to same results Humans used something that doesn't belong them and they (thargoids) reacted on Self Defense.
Edit: To add to this the status quo hasn't change outside that system, interdictions are still happening and the Thargoids continue to search for ships for tech that they see as a threat or which don't belong to the humans.
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I've stated that we have a course of action, I just do not know anybody with the technical skills to implement it.
I need someone who specialises in octal-based mathematics and someone who specialises in linguistic composition.
This is your biggest problem because it's going to alienate a large amount of the community who won't know much about these things.
I'm not opposed to "communicating" with them but i'm not sure if this is the best way to do it.
It is known the guardians did manage to communicate with them in the past, when they were told to "die", so maybe finding and utilising that tech might be a safer option.
Also, maybe finding goids who have been disconnected from the hivemind, and far less angry, might be another avenue... if the oppertunity presents itself.
As it stands currently though, i imagine the only message you are likely to get will be "die".
But have fun trying.
Once we establish a basic form of mathematical communication via the octal trigrams, we can then effectively provide them materials to understand one of our more 'normal' languages, or it could be added to the universal translator. The only issue would be the initial reaching out, that would require a mathematically complex message.
Reminder: Information concerning Guardian-Thargoid interactions came from Ram Tah, who has a vested interest in making you believe the Thargoids are evil monsters so you'll buy his guns. According to him, Thargoids are supposed to be genetically compelled to destroy Guardian technology, that's clearly not true as they're now actively 'assimilating' and using it.
There are many incidences where they won't attack you unless you provoke them. That is applicable to the species as a whole evidently.
Radical elements of humanity just tried to genocide them, and yet you can still fly up to them almost anywhere and give them gifts of friendship and it's all perfectly fine. They are remarkably more peaceful and tolerant than we are in that capacity.
Feeding them escape pods or other human-based commodities is reprehensible to say the least, meta alloys are acceptable. An interesting avenue of thought is that by supplying them with these modified relics, they could potentially modify further surface sites to emit the same anti-Guardian pulses, so I wholeheartedly think that would be a wonderful idea.
People aren't going to make peace voluntarily, they're going to need to be forced into it. That is the sad reality I have discovered after seven years of campaigning for peace.
Considering their current behaviour seems "frenzied", they may not be for listening, too soon i think regarding the timing of such a venture. Feel free though to try it..
I'm an alien who understands that a species will do what it needs to do to survive. Then they encounter humans and it usually doesn't end well for them.
Are you sure about that or did the wave trigger a survival, instinctual reaction as the guardians may have tried this before, and also failed... because the goids adapted.
Not really. Everywhere outside of HIP 22460 they're exactly the same as always. They're frenzied within that one specific system because someone just used their alleged arch-enemy's tech to try and genocide them. I would too be frenzied if someone invaded my star system and built a device, wired it into one of my stations and tried to genocide me with it.
You might want to consider whether these are Guardian relics taken over by the Thargoids, or Thargoids taken over by the Guardian relics, or something else.
You know how ant poison tends to be sweet and slow acting, so that the ants bring it home to the nest and feed it to the entire colony?
A very valid train of thought, and definitely one to keep our eyes on.
Well. so far. There are a lot of sites out there though and if the wave does create a chain reaction that feeds through to them then it would be interesting.
If we use ants as an example, there are different roles and busimess as usual but if it transfers, which may take time, it will whip those warrior goids into a frenzy as well.
Salvation is also a wild card here, there was no proper oversight so the only wmd? Also "nemesis" foreshadowing, but whose nemesis is he really?
Which is the bigger threat...
The Guardians tried communicating and they failed. They too had to go to war.
No that's entirely very wrong. They at first did not want to fight the Thargoids and didn't pick up weapons. They made numberous communication attempts to the point that they knew and understood the Thargoid language. Yet the Thargoids did not want to/respond to any attempts at communication. The Thargoids chose to continue their hostilities instead of communicating. Therefor the Guardians had to pick up the weapons and defend themselfs. The Guardian AI had nothing to do with the Thargoids, but did it's actions because of Guardian Civil wars.