The Quest To Find Raxxla

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Yes, a manifest scanner will tell you what cargo the target is carrying. On my Phantom I now have a manifest scanner and a combination limpet controller so I can hatchbreak, refuel or repair, depending on my mood 😈🎅🏼

I hadnt thought if hanging around an anarchy station mailbox; Ive only tried nav beacons, where Trinkets have been a bit thin on the ground.

Note: if you’re carrying trinkets and get scanned by local police you’ll get a large fine for carrying illicit goods! They are illicit everywhere, but I cant figure out a lore reason for this!
Yesterday I got interdicted by a pirate, had a fight, police showed up, I killed him and got a 4,500Cr fine fir the Trinkets and downgraded from Allied to Friendly; but got a 200,000Cr bounty on him...
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Rochester said:
Historians Eratosthenes and Hyginus associated the constellation Virgo with Tyche (Fortuna), ‘eyes to see’?

John Milton describes Astraea (Urania) as Virgo in Paradise Lost. Milton also invokes Urania as a muse, and he himself was a musician who was an exponent of the ‘silent song’… Urania being one of the outermost spheres of the silent song?

John Milton was blind - eyes again?

Virgo was attributed likewise to Princesse (Queen) Elizabeth I as Astraea (Urania)?

Virgo was also seen as the spring goddess Persephone. Kore, Kira or Cora as well as Demeter (drunk / pirates)?

And Virgo contains the ‘Realm of the Galaxies’ which contains several thousand galaxies!

Is Virgo the mother (Demeter) of galaxies?
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Could be the mother of galaxies, but what then are the Jewel, Whisperer and Siren?
 

Macros Black

Macros Black
Jorki Rasalas said:
Mmm, that is one of the old Elite/Founder missions that were given out at Shinrarta/Jameson Memorial. Long deleted from game, just about the same time I started playing so never got the chance to try one...See Macros’ summary on the first page of this thread! Interesting it’s in HIP 118321 though and not Shinrarta
@Rochester @Han_Zen @Macros Black -any comments/thoughts gentlemen?

Apparently they led nowhere and were dropped (or replaced by something else yet to be discovered?) in the mission system changes in late Dec2015/early2016. They did seem to be aimed at the Raxxla myth, and seemed to be handed out by Pilot’s Federation working against TDW faction in Shinrarta. Make of that what you will!

Edit: Fernweh is a German term, so perhaps not unsurprisingly used as a Cmdr name by a German player; doesn’t seem to be a hint etc to me. Could have been seen and triggered a thought in FD’s collective consciousness ( I think they’re governed by a Guardian AI! 🧐) for later use in the Codex.

Might be worth checking out that system though...I’m really surprised it appeared anywhere other than Shinrarta.

Edit2: and it’s also on Reddit, with no pictorial evidence that the claim is genuine...Reddit is notorious for trolling!
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The mission 'Obfuscated In The Outer Rim' was given in many systems.
@AndyJ gave a good recount of the story of the missing missions.
 

yelboc

yelboc
Ataxia said:
If the noises die down after a period of time or.. x jumps.. should be determined as well as if the artifact switches hands does this cause them to 'reboot'?

On another note, I'm going to head to the Zurara this weekend but would love to have a trinket prior to the trip - for science of course. So I'll look at hittimg a anarchy nav beacon. Any specific targets I should aim for or just kill everyone?
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Its anarchy so there is no law. Take a manifest scanner and find the ones with trinkets. Hatchbreaker and a good collector helps to. Once you spill there trinket not only will they try and scoop them up but so will everyone around you. So best to pick on an npc on their own not in a wing at the edge of the grouping. Otherwise, open season.
I often end up scooping them by hand - the krait is the perfect pirate ship in this regard - cargo scoop is much easier than most ships.
 

PDJazzHands

PDJazzHands
Ataxia said:
If the noises die down after a period of time or.. x jumps.. should be determined as well as if the artifact switches hands does this cause them to 'reboot'?

On another note, I'm going to head to the Zurara this weekend but would love to have a trinket prior to the trip - for science of course. So I'll look at hittimg a anarchy nav beacon. Any specific targets I should aim for or just kill everyone?
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You don't kill anyone, manifest scan, use the left panel to figure out if they have trinkets, if they do, hatch breaker limpets and collector limpets.

If you blow up the ship, you blow up the trinkets inside
 

PDJazzHands

PDJazzHands
Ataxia said:
If the noises die down after a period of time or.. x jumps.. should be determined as well as if the artifact switches hands does this cause them to 'reboot'?

On another note, I'm going to head to the Zurara this weekend but would love to have a trinket prior to the trip - for science of course. So I'll look at hittimg a anarchy nav beacon. Any specific targets I should aim for or just kill everyone?
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This needs figuring out, why not grab yourself some and try?
 

Cunder

C
Seems like Fortuna is the most used name in space especially in Elite Dangerous, FD use it as a way to throw off the pilots to make the search difficult.

For instance Pars Fortuna is a mathematical point in the zodiac derived by the longitudinal positions of the Sun, Moon and Ascendant (Rising sign) in the birth chart of an individual.

To add to it we got an Asteroid in our system called 19 Fortuna that is within the main belt and is one of the largest asteroids in that belt. Which is 225 km in diameter.

It was first seen in 1852 by J R Hinds, and observed in 1993 by the Hubble Space Telescope.

It's symbol is a Star over a Wheel.

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It's speed is 18.94 km/s and has a 3.81 day orbital rotation.
 
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Cunder

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Any chance if the Trinket does make noise, is it possible that it can be used as a beacon receiver? I am heading out to get one
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
PDJazzHands said:
Yes

Source: https://youtu.be/6wrJzANovUY
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Well, in Horizons: sold the Trinkets I got in the Seagull Sector, went to Orrere & got some more. Dropped one into space, moved the ship away and went back to it with the camera drone. No sounds were detectable with standard audio capture settings- “Night Time" mode selected & music disabled. Repeated twice, same result both times 🧐

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Quite a few comets detectable in Orrere, no Omphalos found!
 
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PDJazzHands

PDJazzHands
Jorki Rasalas said:
Well, in Horizons: sold the Trinkets I got in the Seagull Sector, went to Orrere & got some more. Dropped one into space, moved the ship away and went back to it with the camera drone. No sounds were detectable with standard audio capture settings- “Night Time" mode selected & music disabled. Repeated twice, same result both times 🧐

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Quite a few comets detectable in Orrere, no Omphalos found!
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You don't drop them, it's the ship that makes the sound while they are in your cargo
 

clavain

clavain
@Jorki Rasalas is going to just love this for reasons that will become apparently momentarily.

So yeah I was bored at a conference and reinstalled.

Got thinking about "a little bit obvious", and breadcrumbs.

First recorded report of Raxxla, Tau Ceti. Went there, did all the usual crap we always do, found nothing of interest. Sat in the main station, Ortiz Moreno. Wait a minute, who the heck is he? An astronomer of course. Famous for finding - a dwarf planet near Neptune, Haumea. And off we go to the Sol races. (There is also a system called Haumea if anyone wants to check it out, but if you find Raxxla we share the credits and fame, K? Spoilers, it is pretty dull) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/José_Luis_Ortiz_Moreno

So, Haumea you say: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haumea

Interesting, has two little moons formed after something big collided with it. More interesting, only one of said moons is in the game - Namaka is missing. Even more interesting, Namaka has an unusual, eccentric orbit, and the two moons play hide and seek with observers on Earth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moons_of_Haumea

So poking around we go, while continuing to madly click wikipedia links as the space madness sets in, again. Haumea (in Horizons at least) is a very run of the mill little ice body with some very deep crevasses, and a few small mountains. It looks at first glance like the crevasses might connect somewhere, like, oh., I don't know, at a big point of impact? Unfortunately it is hard to find, because;dark side and annoyances of trying to search a very small body from orbit. Haven't landed yet to go for a spin but will at some point.

Did some parallaxing with and without orbit lines turned on (damn I'm old school) but no hide nor hair of a hidden orbital station nor Namaka. Tried flying around in the orbit of Hi'iaka to cover every possible area within 1,000ls of my ship, but nothing on nav or contacts or that I could see, and no mysterious speed dropouts or warnings.

Also, Haumea has a ring that isn't in the game either (likely because it was only discovered in 2017, but geez Frontier, c'mon, keep up won't ya?).

Back to reading wiki, came across something guaranteed to drive Jorki round the bend (this is the best part) ;-)

So it seems whatever collided with Haumea not only created its two moons, but an entire family of objects known by the cool kids as the Haumeids. What are these you ask? Well, only 18 members of the Transneptunian collisional family of Jorki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haumea_family

I don't think any of these are in-game, but wouldn't it be fun to try to calculate their orbits/positions in game and go look for them to see if you can find them? Wouldn't it Jorki? Highlighted in green for you below and with more details on the page above, should be easy-peasy if you haven't even already found them all given your expertise in this area... ;-)

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And of course there are all the usual interesting connections with various deities and their offspring and enemies and lovers &c. &c. from various cultures, but I will leave that to someone far more knowledgeable than I in such matters (@simulacrae @Rochester ) to set forth appropriate hypotheses in the scientific manner for testing. With a cool illustrated map I hope and lots of Hawaiian art.

And if you do, don't forget to outline an alternative hypothesis based on the original name Ortiz Moreno wanted to give Haumea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ataegina#Dwarf_planet

Just a little bit obvious right? Too obvious maybe?

PS Don't forget to double-check everything in Odyssey, with crappier chances of seeing anything in crap graphics using parallax.

PPS My working theory of course is that it was a space whale which collided with Haumea.

PPPS None of the Haumeids from that table appear to be in the Sol system. Which leads to the completely unrelated and likely irrelevant question, why are the trans-Neptunian objects 2002 MS4 and 2007 OR10? Smokescreen to distract us from the Haumeids and Namaka is what I say. The truth is out there. The great white space whale shall be found and we shall not be distracted from the hunt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/(307261)_2002_MS4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/225088_Gonggong


PPPPS I'll even make it simpler by providing all the orbits for Jorki:
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Ataxia

Ataxia
PDJazzHands said:
This needs figuring out, why not grab yourself some and try?
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Once I find some I will!

I've got a few strings to tie up before I leave the bubble again and I want to have a couple for my voyage to the Zurarah.


I do wish we didn't need to... were forced to have cargo move between active ships. It would make my experiments much easier to do lol.
 

CMDR Davanix

CMDR Davanix
clavain said:
@Jorki Rasalas is going to just love this for reasons that will become apparently momentarily.

So yeah I was bored at a conference and reinstalled.

Got thinking about "a little bit obvious", and breadcrumbs.

First recorded report of Raxxla, Tau Ceti. Went there, did all the usual crap we always do, found nothing of interest. Sat in the main station, Ortiz Moreno. Wait a minute, who the heck is he? An astronomer of course. Famous for finding - a dwarf planet near Neptune, Haumea. And off we go to the Sol races. (There is also a system called Haumea if anyone wants to check it out, but if you find Raxxla we share the credits and fame, K? Spoilers, it is pretty dull) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/José_Luis_Ortiz_Moreno

So, Haumea you say: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haumea

Interesting, has two little moons formed after something big collided with it. More interesting, only one of said moons is in the game - Namaka is missing. Even more interesting, Namaka has an unusual, eccentic orbit, and the two moons play hide and seek with observers on Earth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moons_of_Haumea

So poking around we go, while continuing to madly click wikipedia links as the space madness sets in, again. Haumea (in Horizons at least) is a very run of the mill little ice body with some very deep crevasses, and a few small mountains. It looks at first glance like the crevasses might connect somewhere, like, oh., I don't know, at a big point of impact? Unfortunately it is hard to find, because;dark side and annoyances of trying to search a very small body from orbit. Haven't landed yet to go for a spin but will at some point.

Did some parallaxing with and without orbit lines turned on (damn I'm old school) but no hide nor hair of a hidden orbital station nor Namaka. Tried flying around in the orbit of Hi'iaka to cover every possible area within 1,000ls of my ship, but nothing on nav or contacts or that I could see, and no mysterious speed dropouts or warnings.

Also, Haumea has a ring that isn't in the game either (likely because it was only discovered in 2017, but geez Frontier, c'mon, keep up won't ya?).

Back to reading wiki, came across something guaranteed to drive Jorki round the bend (this is the best part) ;-)

So it seems whatever collided with Haumea not only created its two moons, but an entire family of objects known by the cool kids as the Haumeids. What are these you ask? Well, only 18 members of the Transneptunian collisional family of Jorki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haumea_family

I don't think any of these are in-game, but wouldn't it be fun to try to calculate their orbits/positions in game and go look for them to see if you can find them? Wouldn't it Jorki? Highlighted in green for you below and with more details on the page above, should be easy-peasy if you haven't even already found them all given your expertise in this area... ;-)

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And of course there are all the usual interesting connections with various deities and their offspring and enemies and lovers &c. &c. from various cultures, but I will leave that to someone far more knowledgeable than I in such matters (@simulacrae @Rochester ) to set forth appropriate hypotheses in the scientific manner for testing. With a cool illustrated map I hope and lots of Hawaiian art.

And if you do, don't forget to outline an alternative hypothesis based on the original name Ortiz Moreno wanted to give Haumea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ataegina#Dwarf_planet

Just a little bit obvious right? Too obvious maybe?

PS Don't forget to double-check everything in Odyssey, with crappier chances of seeing anything in crap graphics using parallax.

PPS My working theory of course is that it was a space whale which collided with Haumea.

PPPS None of the Haumeids from that table appear to be in the Sol system. Which leads to the completely unrelated and likely irrelevant question, why are the trans-Neptunian objects 2002 MS4 and 2007 OR10? Smokescreen to distract us from the Haumeids and Namaka is what I say. The truth is out there. The great white space whale shall be found and we shall not be distracted from the hunt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/(307261)_2002_MS4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/225088_Gonggong


PPPPS I'll even make it simpler by providing all the orbits for Jorki: View attachment 319131
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Ortis Moreno has a belt named after him......4436 Ortizmoreno - 2296 hmmmm some numberplay in effect?
 
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