Sorry, but my Basket in Frontier Store says "Elite Dangerous: Odyssey €34.99" and that seems to be a regular price.
Is there a discount code I missed?
Thanks.
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Is there a discount code I missed?
Thanks.
Oooooofff!, A big issue for the Rats. if a client selects an incorrect platform, we see the platform as soon as the client friends us. Both Horions 3.8 and 4.0 just show ED: beyond. would it be possible to make Horizons 3.8 show as 'ED:Beyond 3.8"? or distinguish the platforms in a different way?
Yes I read that it's a cynical marketing ploy thank you, my post did cover that (I appreciate it may not have been obvious). Honest of FDev to say so, but an explanation from a higher-up would probably go down quite well to nip this in the bud if this curious decision isn't changed.
Offering 4.0 to all seems the easiest solution, allowing cross-instancing is presumably difficult, providing some diplomatic blurb is probably the least preferable tactic in terms of customer satisfaction.
sallymorganmoore
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The current sale on Odyssey is on the Steam Store. We'll update you with news on the same sale for the FDEV store, for sure.
Not too fussed personally about Odyssey owners not getting Horizons 4.0, but it does seem like an own-goal 
Not everyone is going to have a Bruce on their shoulder whispering 'it's a free trial for the upgraded codebase, you have to play in old school 3.8 if everyone wants to play together', they'll just think it's a weird restriction.
The only way I can see this making sense is if fdev think 4.0 is a minor upgrade on 3.8, and - I hate to be the one to break this to you ... it's a lot better. People won't want to go back. People won't be happy if you force them to play in 3.8 just to see each other ... (and that's not even to mention that they then miss out on the new 4.0 exclusive content)
Anyway, thank you for coming to my TED talk, the brochures are at the back - max one per group please.
- Any group of commanders with Horizons can now play 4.0 together, but as soon as one decides 'I want to go full monty with Odyssey' they now cannot play with their friends except by everyone downgrading to 3.8? I foresee a lot of refunds and accompanying bad reviews
- And if that one commando can persuade all their friends to upgrade? Again I think some will resent being forced to upgrade just to play together - more bad reviews.
- If that brave Odyssey commando had been allowed to run EDH4.0 with their Horizons commander buddies then they'd have been constantly reminding the others about upgrading, and they could have done it one at a time instead of needing to go in lockstep. Pester power at its strongest. And a positive experience = positive reviews.
Not everyone is going to have a Bruce on their shoulder whispering 'it's a free trial for the upgraded codebase, you have to play in old school 3.8 if everyone wants to play together', they'll just think it's a weird restriction.
The only way I can see this making sense is if fdev think 4.0 is a minor upgrade on 3.8, and - I hate to be the one to break this to you ... it's a lot better. People won't want to go back. People won't be happy if you force them to play in 3.8 just to see each other ... (and that's not even to mention that they then miss out on the new 4.0 exclusive content)
Anyway, thank you for coming to my TED talk, the brochures are at the back - max one per group please.
sallymorganmoore
Senior Community Manager : Elite Dangerous
Lucky me o7
I really can't understand why you can't see it: buy dlc-->instance with dlc. Not buy dlc --> not instancing with dlc. You're having a really entitled attitude, cmdr. You can't have something you don't pay for.
The logic is simple. When Horizons came out, Frontiers made it very easy. They blocked the device that was responsible for landing on the planets. And back then, server sharing was space for everyone, and planets only for DLC. In this case, it was possible to do exactly the same by blocking one single button (or, again, the device (the one that is advanced)). So, as a programmer and network engineer, I do not understand why the decision was made to completely separate the servers. So looking back, I wonder why. The only technical event is the accounts transfer from consoles. It is logical to assume that they are the cause. If not, then I have a bad feeling.
Be warned though: Odyssey has its worst performance problems in the new settlements, and you won't be able to test drive those settlements in Horizons 4.0.
I think this is a very good explanation of what the issue is.Not too fussed personally about Odyssey owners not getting Horizons 4.0, but it does seem like an own-goal
- Any group of commanders with Horizons can now play 4.0 together, but as soon as one decides 'I want to go full monty with Odyssey' they now cannot play with their friends except by everyone downgrading to 3.8? I foresee a lot of refunds and accompanying bad reviews
- And if that one commando can persuade all their friends to upgrade? Again I think some will resent being forced to upgrade just to play together - more bad reviews.
- If that brave Odyssey commando had been allowed to run EDH4.0 with their Horizons commander buddies then they'd have been constantly reminding the others about upgrading, and they could have done it one at a time instead of needing to go in lockstep. Pester power at its strongest. And a positive experience = positive reviews.
Not everyone is going to have a Bruce on their shoulder whispering 'it's a free trial for the upgraded codebase, you have to play in old school 3.8 if everyone wants to play together', they'll just think it's a weird restriction.
The only way I can see this making sense is if fdev think 4.0 is a minor upgrade on 3.8, and - I hate to be the one to break this to you ... it's a lot better. People won't want to go back. People won't be happy if you force them to play in 3.8 just to see each other ... (and that's not even to mention that they then miss out on the new 4.0 exclusive content)
Anyway, thank you for coming to my TED talk, the brochures are at the back - max one per group please.
Don't forget that Horizons 4.0 isn't just a 'test my pc to see if it can run Odyssey.' It was a free expansion for non-odyssey owners to be allowed to continue the Narrative that wouldn't be possible in the 3.8 codebase. You're locking out Non-Odyssey owners from playing with their Odyssey friends on the newly unfolding Aftermath Storyline.
Perhaps Hellrider is thinking it would be like horizons & base game clients, where there was no issue with cross-instancing on the same platform. It's reasonable to assume the same should apply to Odd/4.0.
FDev have stated they are looking to move to one client. I imagine they would want as few reasons for customers to remain on 3.8 as possible.
Thanks. My expectations are realistic (low) with regard to on-foot combat and settlement play.
My main interest in Odyssey would be the Exobiology play as an expansion to what I mostly do now, in Horizons. From what I've read, this is less demanding than the on-foot settlement combat. So seeing how the new planet surfaces perform (even though I can't get out of the SRV) will be interesting. I do wonder if the Exobiological elements will be visible from within the SRV.
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Why do I get the feeling that our former consoles are always the cause of everything while the issue is with the people who are complaining? Why would you need 4.0? you have the full package.
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it is you who are not seeing it........ it isnt the horizons players losing out (because they didn't pay so fair enough) it is the Odyssey customers who DID pay who can no longer play with their mates who didnt (in HORIZONS 4.0..... no one AFAIK is asking Horizons players to be allowed into EDO 4.13). (so in your example it would be buy DLC but choose not to instance with DLC for this play session (but not force everyone into 3.18)
and end of the day call us fully paid up Odyssey customers entitled as many times as you want.... it was Frontier themselves who stated that after launch Horizons would have an update to put it on the new engine allowing EDO and EDH players to instance together where the content overlaps........ I accept there may have been unseen issues with this letting the EDH players joiin into EDO, but letting EDO players join into EDH 4.0 is what is being asked for.
Again things can happen..... but FD really should come clean about it and at least acknowledge that they have backtracked, and not insinuate that it is us the players who have the wtong end of the stick on this favour they are doing EDH players........
Not everyone reads the forums all the time so many will be very surprised who just took FDs initial announcement at face value.
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Because some people don't own the full package, and having the full package restricts us from playing with them :l
yes the performance bottle neck is the AI associated with onfoot NPCs which is more CPU intensive, its not a rendering issue
Away from the instancing issue - what exactly is supposed to have been implemented in today's "upgrade"? - All I see in the OP is more bugs introduced. I've been in the game and the gal map interconnector persistence is still there and the planetary body SC visibility issue is still an issue. Any fixes AT ALL? What exactly was the "upgrade" for?