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[Ettanin]

Glad to hear your friends are taking advantage of 4.0 on Horizons! Just as before, if Odyssey and non-Odyssey players wish to play together, you'll have to do so in 3.8.

This is scummy, outright dirty and an exploit on the herd mentality/peer pressure psychology. You intentionally fragment social groups by forcing those that don't have EDO yet to buy it or force the entire group to use an EOL'd, potentially buggy old version of the game.

The least you could have done is allow EDH4 and EDO players to instance in space and around orbital installations.

 

[Jack Winter]

This is another fine mess FD has put itself in to. They should have either announced H4 as a free "upgrade" for H3.8 players (but why?), or not released it at all. If FD wants more players to play Odyssey, they should just put it on sale. What a waste of time and effort, getting the community hot and bothered for nothing.

FWIW, they have just put EDO on a -45% sale..

 

[CMDR-AD]

What I'm wondering at this point... If I buy Odyssey and upgrade, will I have to download it again? Or will my current 4.0 Horizons just unlock into Odyssey?

As to impressions of the 4.0 demo... Even on my older system, the 4.0 Horizons "Odyssey demo" is not terrible. My choice at this point in time is either stay on 3.8 (or maybe even just call it done), or buy Odyssey. Seeing 4.0 in action, so far I could live with it without a PC upgrade.

Yes, performance is the worst of any game I have ever played on my PC. Landing on a planet, at a station, fleet carrier, or even a little space outpost will bring my performance down from 60fps to 30. The new surface outposts are in the 15 to 20 fps range. Sometimes the planet surface material scatter remind me a bit of Playstation 1 pixelated textures when viewed from altitude (it's not the textures that are pixelated, it's like the "pixel" effect is due to the pattern used to arrange the higher res textures).

My Galvanized SRV paint job is no longer metallic effect, just purple. My "Odyssey" Dolphin paint job has cool chrome and black trim lines in 3.8, but it's just flat dull gray in 4.0 and that's sad.

With medium settings, lowering my resolution from 1080p to 1280x720 (or using the FSR mode) can actually keep me above 50 fps on some planet surfaces, even with the Planet Surface Work slider to the right a good ways. Of course, this means things look like 720p does. Shimmery. But I am actually a bit surprised that my old GTX950 2GB card is doing this well.

On the plus side (for me) so far the UI is not as bad as I imagined. No problems with UI during a few ship transfers, outfittings, and traveling around 2,000 LY out to see the Thargoid Star in person.

But so far, I've liked a lot of what I've seen. Little visual things here and there. The FSD jump sequence is nicely done. The solar prominences are far better.

 

[ZiggyGG]

Why would you need one? You have Odyssey.

To play it if for some reasons Odyssey is broken again.

 

[Jack Winter]

What I'm wondering at this point... If I buy Odyssey and upgrade, will I have to download it again? Or will my current 4.0 Horizons just unlock into Odyssey?

That is my present understanding based on some previous posts in this thread.

 

[Cmdr. Numa]

No idea why anyone would actually want to play old versions of games though, besides curiosity.

I keep thinking, all these people demanding 4.0 Horizons ... would never actually play it.

Reasons have been given in this thread ad nauseam, you're just trolling at this point.

 

[WILLIAM BILL ADAMA]

Yes, performance is the worst of any game I have ever played on my PC. Landing on a planet, at a station, fleet carrier, or even a little space outpost will bring my performance down from 60fps to 30. The new surface outposts are in the 15 to 20 fps range. Sometimes the planet surface material scatter remind me a bit of Playstation 1 pixelated textures when viewed from altitude (it's not the textures that are pixelated, it's like the "pixel" effect is due to the pattern used to arrange the higher res textures).

In my com, size of Odyssey(steam, 1st id) is almost same 50GB to Horizon 4.0(epic, 3rd id). And I can play Horizon 4.0 on '2nd steam id/same com' without additional installation. I think Odyssey and Horizon 4.0 builds share files and... it seem that if you remove all ED folder before buying Odyssey, you will not need extra space... but not clear.

And if you have 30 fps on surface settlement at Horizon 4.0, you will have 20~25fps at Odyssey... because of NPC AI and onfoot area.

 

[WILLIAM BILL ADAMA]

Glad to hear your friends are taking advantage of 4.0 on Horizons! Just as before, if Odyssey and non-Odyssey players wish to play together, you'll have to do so in 3.8.

So did FDev cancel plan for cross instancing that you mentioned at this post and reply?

Horizons / Odyssey Compatibility

Greetings Commanders, We hope you enjoyed the recent alpha for the PC version of Elite Dangerous: Odyssey! Thank you once again for your feedback and suggestions which will have a lasting impact for all future Commanders. This only marks the beginning for Odyssey. After the game launches on...

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Horizons / Odyssey Compatibility

Official tweet clarifies things: "Horizons PC players will also have the graphical improvements after the console launch and be able to play with PC Odyssey players."

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[Falcon_D]

Hello.
I’m having major issues with Ody. Every time I start the launcher it keeps asking me to upgrade. 1st time was the normal upgrade (used steam). Then yesterday it got me to upgrade from 2022.09.14 to 2022.09.15 (used steam). Now it wants me to upgrade from 2022.09.15 to 2022.09.14 (going backwards), I’m trying to do the upgrade via the launcher now.
I’m assuming that the version number in the brackets is the version it wants to upgrade to.
Each upgrade takes about 2hrs to download and install.
Anyone has any idea what is going on?
Thanks.

 

[Globusdiablo]

FWIW, they have just put EDO on a -45% sale..

Indeed.
But the question remains; is it in fact a better game....

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

No idea why anyone would actually want to play old versions of games though, besides curiosity.

I keep thinking, all these people demanding 4.0 Horizons ... would never actually play it.

come on. I thought you were better than that. almost every post explains exactly why. I play with up to 3 other players (when I am lucky and they go on which isn't often). they are all now on 4 because why wouldn't they be. but no interest in buying Edo after I showed it them.
I am unable to play with them so am being punished for having Edo. they are fine with 4 and not keen to go back, esp as they won't get any new content in 3.8 where as even 4.0 gets some new stuff.
I am being hamstrung more than they are. yes of course they should not be expected to be able to log into EDO 4.13 but as a fall back I should be able to log into 4.0
it is what it is and I thought I was done with his thread.... but how can you still say you can't see any utility for Edo players in 4.0 when it has been stated multiple times.

actually you ARE right but not for the reason you think. people don't generally want to play old versions of games. 3.8 IS the old version. 4.0 is the new version and is the same as ED:O 4.13 but with the new EDO content walled off.

 

[Jack Winter]

Indeed.
But the question remains; is it in fact a better game....

I suppose everyone will have to test for themselves... It appears that opinions are divided on the topic!

 

[Northpin]

If I buy Odyssey and upgrade, will I have to download it again? Or will my current 4.0 Horizons just unlock into Odyssey?

Nope, no download if you already installed Horizons 4.0.
Once you purchase Odyssey on that account, the launcher will remove the Horizons 4.0 entry from your launcher and replace it with Odyssey

 

[Ashnak]

Hello.
I’m having major issues with Ody. Every time I start the launcher it keeps asking me to upgrade. 1st time was the normal upgrade (used steam). Then yesterday it got me to upgrade from 2022.09.14 to 2022.09.15 (used steam). Now it wants me to upgrade from 2022.09.15 to 2022.09.14 (going backwards), I’m trying to do the upgrade via the launcher now.
I’m assuming that the version number in the brackets is the version it wants to upgrade to.
Each upgrade takes about 2hrs to download and install.
Anyone has any idea what is going on?
Thanks.

09.15 probably was the minor Patch FD introduced and later rolled back.

 

[Cmdr. Numa]

Hello.
I’m having major issues with Ody. Every time I start the launcher it keeps asking me to upgrade. 1st time was the normal upgrade (used steam). Then yesterday it got me to upgrade from 2022.09.14 to 2022.09.15 (used steam). Now it wants me to upgrade from 2022.09.15 to 2022.09.14 (going backwards), I’m trying to do the upgrade via the launcher now.
I’m assuming that the version number in the brackets is the version it wants to upgrade to.
Each upgrade takes about 2hrs to download and install.
Anyone has any idea what is going on?
Thanks.

Here is the announcement. Unfortunately a patch was rolled out that wasn't quite ready yet, so it got rolled back. That also means we'll get a fixed version of it to download soon.

 

[Northpin]

they are all now on 4 because why wouldn't they be. but no interest in buying Edo after I showed it them.

That's the spirit !!!

\o/

 

[gthk]

Installation will take me 2 hours and is unacceptable.

I cancelled it and rather to play Witcher 3 to have Geralt play Gwent

 

[Northpin]

This actually works.

So, it's not even that Frontier hasn't unlocked the product for Odyssey accounts, it's that the Launcher doesn't provide the option to append the appropriate season to the command that's passed to the game.

For the record, this is my Odyssey account:

If the lack of Horizons 4.0 from Odyssey Launchers was a ploy to attract more cmdrs to buy Odyssey, well... it was doomed to fail in a such geek community as Elite has.'

At this point, they should really consider either adding Horizons 4.0 to Odyssey Launchers, or somehow enforce the limitation server-side

And for attracting more people to buy Odyssey they should go the old and well beaten path of adding Odyssey Exclusives, like:

• Panther Clipper, the one trader to rule them all
• Fer-de-Pike, the one fighter to rule them all
• Imperial Explorer (or Anything Imperial for what is worth )

 

[Night Hawk]

If the lack of Horizons 4.0 from Odyssey Launchers was a ploy to attract more cmdrs to buy Odyssey, well... it was doomed to fail in a such geek community as Elite has.'

At this point, they should really consider either adding Horizons 4.0 to Odyssey Launchers, or somehow enforce the limitation server-side

And for attracting more people to buy Odyssey they should go the old and well beaten path of adding Odyssey Exclusives, like:

• Panther Clipper, the one trader to rule them all
• Fer-de-Pike, the one fighter to rule them all
• Imperial Explorer (or Anything Imperial for what is worth )

Cobra MkV???

But then, Odyssey owners would cry foul because H 4.0 players got someting they didn't.

 

[robbyp]

. But I am actually a bit surprised that my old GTX950 2GB card is doing this well

Your using a card from 2015 with only 2gb of vram. Your setup is sub par for odyssey. It's no wonder it wont work well. My 1080 with 8gb works at 60fps in 1080 p most of the time.