punishment

Foreword: This 'proposal', or list of suggestions aims to make the galaxy more dangerous for criminals, in order to add weight to criminal actions, increase the impression of galactic 'topography' (galaxy having more diversity between government, controlling factions & superpowers, etc), and...

I found this really persuasive thread on Reddit which addresses how stupidly obtuse the game can be.

In the half year I've owned this game, I've received two 200cr bounties, for my NPC fighter firing at a station because its target vessel was moving and because my anaconda got a bounty for one of its lasers slipping and firing at an innocent guy, respectively. This is very annoying since it...

Ok Im in my cutter, evacuating people from a station. Im about to touch down when a close explosion occurs. Im flung to another pad, and am told off for blocking the pad. I leave within five seconds, but gain a 500cr fine. Whatever. I go to take some missions. I cant because im wanted. I go to...

The most expensive ship in my main CMDR's fleet, the BattleConda "Terrible Shadow" (EBL-07), now has a collective bounty of over 100,000,000 credits on it. I kinda went all "War Doctor" back when I was considering clearing my save and starting fresh, just to try out a life of crime for the fun...

Had an idea after seeing how easy and unpunished murdering feels in ED. To stimulate pvp, the possibility to work with the system factions with a structured way of enforcing the law better than the current bounty hunting system based only on scanning. A new profession to have fun which...

But, not under the current system. I want to be well paid for each and every psycho kill, according to his/her skill and danger level, and I also want a title that shows how proficient I am at ridding the galaxy of the antisocial elements. I think it may prove to be a wonderful emergent gameplay...

Even after the introduction of Crime & Punishment there are still lots of complaints about griefing, pointless killing of weak CMDR's and such. In case there is a will to improve on this, I'd suggest an extension of the current Crime & Punishment system: First-degree murder. This suggestion...

Strap in guys, its a bit of a long post! As we all know the new C&P is...well honestly a bit of a mess. The previous system didn't stop grief, but also didnt do much in terms of adding to it, beside the occasional friendly fire, and needing to warp in and out of the system. Now we've got a...

To the office of the Imperial Magistrate CC: Office of the Sherrif LHS 1856 To whomsoever this may be of greatest concern or interest, Sir, Ma'am, M'Lord, M'lady, I have recently (to my mind) been the victim of a misunderstanding that, while inconvenient at most, may indeed perhaps be a sign...

First off, loved the new changes and tools added to exploration. The past system always seemed absolutely lacking in content and interest beyond jump, scan, repeat. Now all these new tools and scanners will make the scanning process more interesting and open up more randomized events and...

Edit: For clarification and stuff, that I cuted out by accident. Edit 2: Including some points from the comments. Edit 3: Consider Medium security tag. Preamble Well here I am again, flying around in the Black. Watching the Creators Roundtable stream and the topic of C&P came up again. In the...

PSA: Current C&P does not discourage PVP; It only prevents strike missions on controlling factions. Current C&P mechanics cause any strike missions with Authority vessels nearby to be treated as equal to or greater than player ships. Killing authority ships results in an increase of notoriety...

The biggest impediment to illegal activites are:- 1. Low payouts that are not at all commensurate to the risks taken 2. Overzealous, overcomplicated and oversensitive Crime and Punishment system that actively discourages any sort of infraction whether major or minor (and therefore makes illegal...

Not a new player, not moaning, just pointing a finger at ridiculous. Ship with no weapons. Lands on planet. Skimmer flying in to a landing ship. Ship gets wanted. Ship fly to station to pay it off, ship gets fired on, lands finally. Gets transported to a detention center for 400 credits...

Yeah, crime and punishment needs some serious rework. The fact that in case you loose your ship you get treated equally and are send to a detention facility, no matter if you got a 5 million credits bounty on your head or just a laughable 200 cr fine - that's just stupid and ridiculous. After...

o7 Cmdrs: Firstly, this is intended to be constructive, it isn't a rant post or some anger vent because of some CnP related horror I've just experienced. In the recent 5 hour Fdev stream, Sandy came on and briefly touched on a couple things being adjusted in the new CnP system and that's great...

There seems to be some debate on how much of the new C&P system is a response to player "griefing", but I think there may be a better way to "cure" this problem that's logical, easy to implement, PvP-friendly, and brings meaning to system security state. Disable FSD Interdictors in HiSec...

Having had time to fully experience C&P from both sides of the law, I think I'd rather go back to the pre-3.0 system, even if that means dealing with more griefers. That's why we have this convoluted system, right? I want to clarify a couple of things. The vast majority of my "illegal"...

I know crime and punishment is being tweaked further, but I was thinking back to when i used to play a text-based MUD in the 90s that allowed unlimited PVP and stuck to roleplay as much as possible, and the ways we could self-police other players causing trouble. In that game (also a huge open...

Hi, in these days I'm playing as a bounty hunter. It happened, 3 or 4 times, to hit "not wanted" ships by mistake and to gain a bounty. A clearly low bounty of 200 cr. At this point I became wanted and I had to fly to the nearest Interstellar Factor to have my bounty cleared. But to do that I...

Gaind a small fine and a bounty on a planetary scan mission. Returned to current CG station and changed ships for some bounty hunting. Now my Asp X is locked out says (Legal Issues). I have been to interstellar factors and paid all fines and bounties and I still can’t get my Asp back. I would go...

Playing the Rind Bounty CG in a High Res site, I've come to the conclusion that you really DO want to waste players' time with the Crime & Punishment system. I'm tired of being forced to travel several systems away to clear a 400cr bounty for accidentally shooting a system security ship once...

In an empire system i was given a 600 cr bogus fine leaving dock. Was leaving system so i didn't pay it. 500 ly later at sothis i bought some modules and my NOW-Illegal mods went into storage. This is an independent fed station why would they screw me over a 600cr fine? I couldn't use the mods...

Fines should be able to add up to a bounty. For example. 10,000 in fines= bounty Tier 1 Murder= Bounty no matter what. The bounty should start at 10,000 cr and go up from there. Because you killed someone. FSD interdiction of a clean ship= Bounty. This is because the victim needs to be able to...

I've just been helping a friend reacquaint themselves with the game after some time away, and it was difficult to explain where to check the notoriety stat. I'd like to propose that it's added to the 'status' tab (left-most tab on the right HUD panel) below balance, rebuy cost, local bounty &...

The idea behind notoriety, to allow for player killing to have tangible consequences, is good. Unfortunately, the actual effect of this system is more often than not, less than desirable. The problem with notoriety comes from the fact that the actual system for detecting bounties in the game is...

Upon hearing that FDEV will shortly make more changes to C&P, I decided to test something out that I read was wrong prior to the new C&P which I had hoped was corrected under the new C&P; nonetheless, it is evident that crimes can still be committed without justice. Basically a friend I pledged...

I believe that a lot of the attendant frustration with the new Crime and Punishment system arises because of the oversensitive nature of the system. This creates a situation where the system, while having some impact on PvP, has a large unintended and frustrating impact on innocent activities...

All right, so I don't play Elite too often, I kind of just play in spurts here and there, really makes the game feel new again each time I play, and I haven't really played much since before the release of Beyond. So I'll begin the story of how the new crime and punishment system has either got...

So, here is the plot: I have an Anaconda with H Beamlasers (gimballed) and 3 L Cannons, which are turreted. The last days I wanted to farm some materials and a bit cargo in my favorite system with all pristine rings, so I flew into a RES and started mining. Usually after some minutes some...

I nearly dozed off doing the Broo Tarquin tea run—dropped the controller and it promptly lost contact with the xbox. Grabbed it, but for whatever reason it wouldn’t reconnect, so Futen terminal eventually killed my ship (I had just launched). Tedious, but whatever. Respawned with a 900 credit...

Lets say a small group of players are having an event, or running missions, or whatever, and they are prone to disruptive commander attacks. How about a system to alert nearby player when another player falls under attack. My idea is like this: Its similar to the wing beacon under functions...

So here it is. 3.0 has dropped and I must say, there are quite a lot of things I love about the latest iteration. Material limits for one are amazing. Now I feel motivated and even a bit vindicated in how much I enjoy what practically amounts to looking for shiny rocks. Especially prospecting...

The new Crime and Punishment system is not tuned correctly for Powerplay undermining and has made this aspect of the game uninviting/not fun and appears to punish this type of play. - Gain bounty when you destroy legitimate opposing faction NPC – Agree - Gain Notoriety value when...

Spotted this behauviour at Founder's world station: Some players having "fun" in blocking landing pads and bragging about their skillz while doing so. I'd suggest that making such behauviour punishable, and even making station defences react to it would be a nice touch for such "fun" loving game...

Uncle Jack Shaftoe's Guide to Crime & Punishment (updated for 3.1+) After reading about the sweeping changes to Crime & Punishment in 3.0 from Ed Lewis' post I decided to redo the flow-chart I made a couple of years back. The info in Ed's post was great, but my mind has trouble keeping all of...

Add "escape-shuttle" slot to every ship with moderate range, applications also for new C&P-system Just as we had planetary approachment equipment added to every ship in Horizons with extra slot to fitting, we could have escape shuttle/pod (with moderate jump range and perhaps small fuel scoop...

So in short I’d really like to see missions that require you to hire an NPC strike/extraction team (maybe this could be a separate module) and after you module snipe an NPC enough to board them, maybe just destroy their power plant and risk blowing them up, or getting their thrusters knocked...

(as posted posted on reddit, suggested I post here) SO, I’ve managed to talk a couple friends from other games into playing ED and we are all having a blast! One thing we noted was in the event you harm a ship and generate either a fine or bounty, it’s not always readily apparent you’ve made a...