As I stated earlier, what irks me the most is their blatant short-cut taking regarding some features that should have been implemented later and in a much more flashed out way. It's almost as if FD themself are no longer convinced stuff like walking around in and outside of ships, stations and planets will ever really become a reality...
2.2's Instant Ship and Module Transport - Yay or Nay?
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As I stated earlier, what irks me the most is their blatant short-cut taking regarding some features that should have been implemented later and in a much more flashed out way. It's almost as if FD themself are no longer convinced stuff like walking around in and outside of ships, stations and planets will ever really become a reality...
back in the day i believe we were not even going to start with a ship, we were going to be working for "The (wo)man" before we could get our own ship.
I too would not have an issue waiting for an insurance ship to be bought to us, and in the mean time use another of our ships or a loner.
the sweeter the ship the longer it would take to source one - with a limit of course -Dare i mention the "other" gamebut i think Star Citizen is doing something along those lines
It will make sense when we have legs. Waiting for our summoned ships won't be a problem then (assuming there's interesting stuff to do in stations)
But instant gratification is instant is now i want it now and people lose sight of the big picture. Sadly. No matter if it breaks the game, it has to be faster, bigger. Above all it has to be now
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Honestly, you as a pilot are in and of yourself an "indestructible ship" because no matter how many times you get thrown out of your ship's explosion, you always manage to survive long enough to get picked up and dropped off at your last station.
Not even the nearest station, but the one you last docked at.
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One of the things I'd like to see for the eventual walkabouts expansion is something like this (I like the idea of things requiring a bit of complexity). If you need a forklift driver at Mother Goat, give me a shout.
As long as the delay is reasonable I'd be behind this. Same goes for paint job fees.
So many times yes.
Aside from the time thing I'd be happy with that. You'd need to tweak the galactic map though to show what rearm facilities were available. Let's make it interesting and allow you to resupply your wingmates with that module as well!
Itd be cool but a tad redundant seen as how easy it is to find a scoopable star (that said, explorers might welcome it when trying to get across the dead belts)
More paint jobs are never a bad thing!
*Note: My views might be clouded by my sim-heavy game preferences, and a strive for complexity to what is a very arcadey game, which varies wildly from what I was sold this as.
Don't forget those body kit thingies to make the ship look like a flying carpet or at the very least a giant wand sticking out of the cockpit. MMMMmmm Wand...
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In the year 3302 we are all Cyborgs and get 3D printed based on our Pilot's Federation License!
FUN FUN FUN! INSTANT INSTANT INSTANT! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN
No it just takes a long time to do that. They could have done it the other way where all those things are separate modules ... oh wait .. didnt work for SC.
Point being FD are still a pretty small/medium dev, they only have a finiite amount of resources. Also bear in mind that these things are being worked on in the background, even if we dont see them for another year or so. Look at the avatar editor, we have seen a version of it already, but its not in the game yet.
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But there's no fun in a rebuy screen. And you don't have to use the 'indestructible ship' button, you can ignore it. It's great. It's magic. Remember, fun trumps realism and everything else.
Yes that is indeed worrying. If this decision is made due to the ease of implementation because the development team are already over stretched, is it realistic to be expecting key features of the game to come in the future to be implemented well if at all?
Exactly! Very well put. Its a pitty one has to point that out again and again. I hope FD will have an answer soon and end this debate.
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That's why I play this and not those
In the year 3302 we are all Cyborgs and get 3D printed based on our Pilot's Federation License!
Considering the newest "revelation" that, apparently, ships, fighters and SRVs can be - and in part are - just remote controlled, "we" might as well be... As far as I'm conceanred, FD is doing quite a bit of lore breaking right now, which really doesn't sit well with me.
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Well bye for now elite community it's getting really late here in the land down-under I'll leave it to my like minded brethren in other time zones to continue the defense of our game thank you everybody that sent me Rep today over 70 of you, it was appreciated and encouraged me to stay with this thread all day.
Sandy and David find a way to implement this feature without damaging the core balance.
Good luck all see you tomorrow [zZzZz].
Sandy and David find a way to implement this feature without damaging the core balance.
Good luck all see you tomorrow [zZzZz].
Nah, I was half serious, half joking. If you're against the idea of ship transfers that are too fast, despite being expensive, or whatever sink FDev puts into place to keep it from being too easy, then you shouldn't condone these other minor breaks with reality. The only reason I would teleport/remote ships anyway, is because of all the damn sidewinders I bought as bookmarks prior to actual bookmarks being added to the game.
I am DEFINITELY for things that give explorers more autonomy in deep space, the hydrogen "refinery" module idea came from traversing "briar patches", although it could serve a back up alternative to ships that frequently visit stations or mining vessels that obviously can grab ice at any time. Nothing beats an 8A fuel scoop, though
Wow way to be facetious and totally miss the point. Do they teach advanced obnoxious hyperbole in moderator school, or is it just something you do for fun?
There's literally no reason to sit around and wait for your ship to magically arrive where you are, when it can all be handwaved and abstracted away. A lot of people don't have time to play this game all day every day, they just want to jump in and have fun. That's one of the main reasons I've never participated in a CG. They're just too much of a hassle. Or I'm not in the right ship. If I could just fly there in whatever I'm in, and then switch to an appropriate ship while I'm there, without having to wait an arbitrary period I'd be much more likely to participate.
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I'll contribute tho, I think you should be forced to pay income tax based on a complex residency system of where you spend the most time in space. You could then have the fun gameplay mechanic of spending 184 days in the void for space tax purposes!
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Where, exactly in this thread did anyone say you have to sit and wait for ship to arrive? Where? Nowhere, except for the proponents of instant. Nobody has suggested that.
The suggestion is that when you order a ship it takes an amount of time to arrive during which you can keep on playing. It is still faster than taxi-hauling to fetch it. It's faster than now, but makes more sense and adds a tiny bit of thought to the game rather than removing it.
But the answer is 'fun trumps all', so I was wondering why I can't have an indestructible ship because it's more fun?
See the link? I am being hyperbolic, but that hyperbole is as empty as the 'fun' argument.
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