This one is hand waived by the mechanical requirements, servos and that kind of thing.
And I do agree with you, it's a personal thing, people are willing to suspend disbelief when it suits "them".
2.3 dev update feedback mega thread
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This one is hand waived by the mechanical requirements, servos and that kind of thing.
And I do agree with you, it's a personal thing, people are willing to suspend disbelief when it suits "them".
The weirdest thing about the immersion argument is if it was worded differently peeps would be fine with it!?
You can go further .. of course you can;
Tactical; handles KWS, wing beacons, comms, synthesis reloads
Explorer; downloads extended DSS data, potential for efficient (system-tour) route plotting
Pirate; enhanced hatch breaker targetting, police/security band monitoring and/or anti target-SOS msg scrambling
Miner; refinery control, enhanced collector or prospector targetting
Trader; enables commodity stock prices information, remote access to commodity missions, interdiction evasion assist
Bounty Hunter; enhanced intediction attack, USS monitoring / pre-drop scans, receives pre-targetted wanted ship alerts from nav beacon
Canonn; direct monitoring of dangerous cargo, enhanced UA containment, hyperdction wake monitoring
Fuel Rats/Buckball/CG; reduced hyperspace countdown / fuel scooping .. reducing overall respsonse time
CZ Mercenary; civil and war alerts, may receive invitation from allied factions requiring combat fighters
CZ Navy; capital ship wake alerts.
Off the top of my head. Though that would be quite a bit for a first draft (and Commander 'Creation') I'd say?
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It called creating an universe which make sense, that allows players to immerse themselves in such a universe. So yes a narrative where Rah Tal reverse engineers the Guardian technology allowing players from across the galaxy to control another human being across the galaxy would make more sense than them just magically teleporting about.
Again.. because telepresence is the only thing that doesn't make sense? Really?
There are so many arcade elements that are a major part of this game that don't make sense against half of the other "immersion" decisions and mechanics. The fact that Frontier listens to this forum at all is asinine. Half of us want a fun game. The other half of us want to go back to 1984 mechanics. We all think everyone else is wrong and if we all had our way you'd have Elite Online: The MMO and a solo-standard Elite: 1984 Revisited.
Given that it's 2017. I think it's time to kiss the nostalgia of 1984 goodbye, put it back into it's box and back into the closet. Then we need to crowd fund some servers for FDev so we can get rid of this annoying P2P crap instancing system and get some legit server backed instances.
Here's a copy from another locked thread (that's mussing up the works a bit imo) on a potential lore explanation for the temporary telepresence (a work around made necessary by the fact we don't get a separate Commander or crew log in, but access through the Commander account, from the ship as far as we know and for the time being).
I still think it's a different topic but 50% want consistent lore, 50% don't care and would prefer everyone ignore a consistency approach (actually maybe it's more 70/30) but anyway, both are fine (unless you happen to be in the other camp).
Anyhow's .. here's some Fizziks
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Personally I don't have a real problem with instant 'telepresence' as the mechanism to join a crew as I'm not sure multicrew would even get used otherwise. I would have included a max range though, of maybe 1000-2000 ly. But then again I wouldn't use telepresence as the mechanism.....I would simply have explained it away as you temporarily playing the NPC crew member already occupying the crew station.....except we don't get NPC multicrew do we........
So why is everyone sitting in here having a nice little circle-jerk about telepresence instead of demanding features for the game that actually involve playing the game?
I think we could use another sticky personally .. one to discuss ideas like that, another to try to decide whether a consistent lore is possible, or whether a good request would be a separated Cmdr log in. Personally I think you can make a pretty workable lore (one that involves aliens).
Equally I'm not unhappy with the basic features that is the dev update.
I think FD have to start somewhere .. and allowing your Commander to get a remote tag (away from your ship), a knowable position in 3D space (fighter) and be able to push some buttons (interaction) then if that works bug free they can get on with adding other crew positions. The dev update might look like "not much of a mechanic" but from a networking / code point of view, in my opinion, it's a doozy.
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How about the mods just deem telepresence to be off-topic and start deleting posts?
Sounds like a better solution to me.
What, even my awesome quantum mechanics one, signed sealed & delivered?
I think beyond .. 'man the guns,' it's a starting point .. what else to say about 2.3?
Pick a career to discuss crew roles maybe? After you Cmdr ..
Their seems to be a lack of imagination on these forums.
All FD need to do is add a still image of the players ship winging its way to the destination during the loading screen,problem solved.
I don't like the idea of telepresence,so imagine something quite different.
All FD need to do is add a still image of the players ship winging its way to the destination during the loading screen,problem solved.
I don't like the idea of telepresence,so imagine something quite different.
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I'd quite like to see a quick hyperspace tunnel inserted between ship destruction and rebuy too personally.
Giving a sense of travel in escape pod, would add a little constistency there for me.
2. Galactic Powers button (left panel) rename "Galnet" (why? ... less is more)
3. Slow Down message (centre HUD) rename "Overspeed" (why? ... slow down = I can't !!)
o7
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Maybe it was mentioned before, but 109 pages is a bit too much to check.
Couldn't there be a galaxy wide law, maybe insurance based or so, that prohibits unmanned vessels with FSDs?
Though it's simply not allowed to fly a hyperspace capable ship via telepresence. The commander in charge have to be physically present, you know, for insurance reasons or so.
Couldn't there be a galaxy wide law, maybe insurance based or so, that prohibits unmanned vessels with FSDs?
Though it's simply not allowed to fly a hyperspace capable ship via telepresence. The commander in charge have to be physically present, you know, for insurance reasons or so.
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Probably not a good idea - given that telepresence is a fundamental enabler to multi-crew - and this is the 2.3 feedback mega-thread, after all....
No.
Matchmaking is an enabler for multi-crew. Telepresence is just a nonsensical word thrown around to hide the word matchmaking for people who want to pretend the game isn't a game.
No problem with immersion, but enough is enough. Telepresence has absolutely nothing to do with the 2.3 update's mechanics.
Personally, I believe people just need to suck it up.
FDev wants their game to cater to a lot of people, not just the hardcore few.
Telepresence isn't going to break combat, not that the lot of you even take part in combat to begin with if it's player on player violence.
If anything is broken and needs to go the way of the dodo it's the engineers.
FDev wants their game to cater to a lot of people, not just the hardcore few.
Telepresence isn't going to break combat, not that the lot of you even take part in combat to begin with if it's player on player violence.
If anything is broken and needs to go the way of the dodo it's the engineers.
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Rob, for the love of your own sanity, did you not read my post?
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Mine's fine. If Frontier want to describe the method of getting players into ships to serve as crew as telepresence, who are we to argue?
For the record I have nothing against it as I fully expected Frontier to lower this barrier to gameplay (by not requiring players to co-locate to join as crew) - however the same cannot be said for all participants.
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