Hi mate. Any proofs that we're using bots? If no then it's just false pretenses and nothing more.
Notice A statement on cheating in Elite Dangerous.
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He got banned to solo mode.
Why am I not surprised?
I've seen a lot of PvP content over the years and it's obvious as all hell that a large number are using something that gives them a buff over other players.
For instance, ships with noticably less damage output, eating something that statistically should be far superior.
I would like to say it's down to pilot skill but given that everyone has macro's and the like I don;t beleive it for a second. Seeing ships being 20% more responsive than they should be, hitting harder, having faster distro charge ETC. I've actually stopped watching most PvP content because I don't trust the legitamacy of a large volume of content creators.
If you need to cheat to give yourself an edge over your opponent you're not only a scrub, but you are also ruled by your ego and it not allowing you to take a loss like a man.
It's pathetic and I can't say very often I'm happy to be on a console at the moment (Awful localization, awful connection and TERRIBLE instancing problems), but at least we don't have to deal with the toxicity involved with the trainers. Disgusting.
I don't take this post seriously, mainly because there are too many phrases rating "we take this very seriously". This doesn't make me very very excited.
Let me guess, you take cheating just a s serious as you stated you took combat logging serious. Well for sure sounds promising.
Your efforts are simply not sufficient, the cheaters are one step ahead of you if not even more. While you focus on spacelegs and base building your servers fall on their knees, your game client gets manipulated and your community vanishes slowly over time. A copypasta multicannon won't do any good either.
Let me guess, you take cheating just a s serious as you stated you took combat logging serious. Well for sure sounds promising.
Your efforts are simply not sufficient, the cheaters are one step ahead of you if not even more. While you focus on spacelegs and base building your servers fall on their knees, your game client gets manipulated and your community vanishes slowly over time. A copypasta multicannon won't do any good either.
Alfred J Kwak
Banned
There is one commander , that is imfamous and was confirmed of the engineering exploit cheat is the same one that accuses others of cheating. and still boast he has legacy weaponry . And dont say you dont know who iam talking about as its a well known and recorded fact.
Nothing secret about it , nothing hused up just have a look at some of the live streams and YouTube recordings and you will know.
Nothing secret about it , nothing hused up just have a look at some of the live streams and YouTube recordings and you will know.
Months.... after the issue was raised to fdev, you guys finally put out a cut and paste 'please dont cheat' response, basically proving that doing just that, publicising the cheats is the only real way to ellicit a response.
As for putting players accounts at risk, that's pretty much the point? If you're going to use cheats you deserve to be punished. Reading about cheats has not enticed me to use them, but thanks for thinking they would do just that. Is that really what you think of your player base Fdev?
Like others have said, publish some numbers and maybe we can believe what you're telling us about how actively you are banning people, because from what I'm reading, and that's all I have to go on here, the people reported for using said hacks are still playing. And banning to solo is some weak sauce, perhaps strike 2 you're done would be more appropriate.
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Alfred J Kwak
Banned
Worst thing , other software devs and programmers warned frontier how weak their security is , and they have been doing so for several years.
But frontier chose to do nothing
FD had disappointed me many times before, but this one is something really special...
Dear FD,
You can forget about updates for 2 years
You can forget about cleaning out bugs that been in game for years
You can add useless staff, like "advanced multi-cannons" with copy paste skin and forget about community reaction
But, you can't close your eyes on CHEATING.
CHEATING not ruining the game it self, but it ruins the community. If community would be gone, not even new era update would help you to get it back.
I love Elite, this is the game of my dream in many aspects,
But Cheating, it is something I will not tolerate.
Dear FD,
You can forget about updates for 2 years
You can forget about cleaning out bugs that been in game for years
You can add useless staff, like "advanced multi-cannons" with copy paste skin and forget about community reaction
But, you can't close your eyes on CHEATING.
CHEATING not ruining the game it self, but it ruins the community. If community would be gone, not even new era update would help you to get it back.
I love Elite, this is the game of my dream in many aspects,
But Cheating, it is something I will not tolerate.
Alfred J Kwak
Banned
Dont you think its weird since the Cheats and hacks where exposed the drop in Powerplay and other BGS groups suddenly dropped significantly ?
a couple of those PP groups are not nearly as effective as before the big cheat and hack reveal almost grinded to a halt.
If that so, they messed up. Sorry, FD but I cant call it any other way.
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I don't know if you are insinuating that some PP/BGS groups relied on cheats, and I have no information on that. However, a PP/BGS group I was with when I played lost players steadily over a period of time because they were against cheaters. Attrition, I think they call it. So if a group is less effective now, it might not be that they stopped using cheats, but that their players have left.
The problem is that skil + engineering OP meta builds also gives the appearance of cheating. That is kinda the issue, that people are not sure whether something is legit or not.
To be honest, if I had to chose between 'base building + spacelegs' or 'cheat detection/prevention' I'd go for the former any day of the week. I am unhappy with cheats on general principle, but the actual impact on my gaming in ED has been absolutely zero. Worst case scenario is that support gives me my insurance back and I put the cheater on block. Annoying for sure, but it isn't the end of the world for me. I can imagine it is different for people who focus on the BGS (but there botting is a bigger issue than shield hacks and such), but for most people who just bumble about in their space ship cheating is 'potentially annoying'. And the overwhelming majority of players not on the forums don't even know there is an issue.
I do want FD to take action where possible (and frankly, I dont know what they can do, and neither can anyone else here given the limited info available) but there is a limit to how dramatic one can be.
Yeah, except I've PvP'ed for a few years now.
I know dodgy gameplay when I see it. I'm not by any means claiming to be the best combat pilot in the sphere, but I'm not a slouch and some of the content on YouTube etc, is well outside the realms of obtainable performance regardless of skill and engineering.
It's glairingly obvious in some senses. Not like godmoded ships, but an obvious buff to capacitor regen, damage output and thruster performance. Maybe to the tune of only a 15/20% increase, but it's there nonetheless.
My quick assessment of how this should be monitored is that the configuration of a player's ship is sent to the opposing player in any interaction. Then the other side of the P2P connection can evaluate the parameters of the opposition for out-of-bounds values and report to FDEV.
Any activity in solo or private can be evaluated by a hash generated at the time of ship purchase, module installation, or module modification. The server would store a copy of this hash for comparison later. This hash would be sent to the server on every jump, docking and other events where the client must communicate to the server. Any discrepancies would indicate modification of the ship parameters outside of FDEV process. The server should randomly force the client to report the total ship configuration to insure the hash is not being forged.
The main issue with these suggestions is that the processing and storage on the AWS servers will cost FDEV some amount of money. The best they can do is merely use the AWS server as a pass-thru to their own local audit server to review after the fact.
If that is true then it still highlights a major problem. If someone was using cheats for months and were only discovered after making a public statement about it then enough isn't being done. An algorithm could be created to detect when someone is hit with far more damage than they should be able to take which could then be automatically sent to a team to investigate. After all, without the public statement, how much longer could some get away with using such cheats?
My apologies, as I mentally separated PvP combat from BGS botting, the latter being a theme I've seen in this forum for a long time (so I'm not doubting you at all). It's been the PvP side that's been "in the news" recently, thus my focusing on this when thinking of cheating.
Thats correct. On the one hand botting/cheating has seriously undermined so major BGS/PP activities. But the 'pvp hacking' is a minor nuisance in the end, where the worst that can happen is the waste of a few minutes of your time. After that you just block them, report to FD (and maybe ask insurance back if you died) and you move on with your life.
OT.....
But what is ..... Happening ??????
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No station within 300 Ly range found...
with +21,000 light years in the
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