Thanks for the explanation, so it would be possible but not entirely feasible due to hardware / software constraints having serious side effects on performance? So, alternatively, could someone not design a report to identify suspicious values and run it whilst the servers are down on Thursdays for tick over, meaning the live game wouldn't be affected? Mind you I guess if depends on how long the report would actually take to run. Regarding the reference you made to boost speeds, does the maximum 950m/s only apply to specific ships? So, for example, if you had a combination of 950m/s on an Anaconda with D rated drives the report could be coded in a way to say IF Boost Speed < 700 and Ship Type = Anaconda THEN call ? It wouldn't stop everything but it would be a start.
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So the BGS is frozen inside Shin then? And that when you return to the bubble you instantly teleport from its edge to Shin all in one go? And LYR is PP, who buys data at double the rate.
If I had infinite shields and weapons, it would make murder insanely easy to pull off. No need to fly anywhere, just sit down and spank anyone who pops up quickly and easily. ATR? Not an issue- you could simply ignore them. No need to use the exploits and flaws present either.
Hell, you can sit at the front of a starport, ignore it's fire and murderhobo everything to tank the factions rep insanely fast (if it's still a good way to murder security ships?!)
Only if they notice. I am aware of both, but have no real idea of the 'affects' they are having on my game. To me, it is just something, that might be happening; in the background.
I have found, that what 'I do' affects 'my' game.
And at that point you lost me. I have no interest in reading something that soley exists to embiggen someone's epeen.
Assuming there is 1 cheat for each every 2 non-cheats.
Also bots for running CZs? Is that even possible? Or even bots for running missions? I'm pretty sure that isn't possible. It would have to be capable to looking for the right missions and more.
Would that work? In normal space you can get to several 1000s if the world has hi gravity and you glide the gravity well. I got to over 8k and I was relatuvely slow (although that was in a Cobra, and they are pretty neat) https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/speed-bowl-championships-announcement.422681/page-8
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Perhaps you should read the post you've quoted without your bias spectacles on then?
Troopi asked if someone can attest to the scenario. I confirmed I not only did do it, but did it despite not being the best pilot in the game with a near starter level ship.
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They've been known to use them for PP expansions in the past, so I imagine it's not unfeasible to reapply the lessons learned there to this.
Do you even play the game anymore?
Completing CZs and their optional scenarios contribute to the war effort significantly. In fact, I'm pretty sure you don't have to turn in combat bonds at all.
So, yes, cheaters could have a significant advantage here.
Gettimg that feeling myself.
Ain't this the truth? Folks got such a grudge against PvP, and SDC in particular, they'll see the game burned to the ground by cheaters in the hope it will provide some kind of comeuppance.
And we're worried I'm being insulting. Hilarious.
AFK turretboat heal beamers can sit in PG and farm all day in PP, because the PP CZs are old school.
You got yours, so why care about anyone else, am I right?
I hope the Thargoids blast Shinrarta into space junk someday.
Regarding code to identify cheaters, since the game's multiplayer mode is peer to peer, it's not feasible to use servers to do the checking during a fight.
Here's what can be done:
1- the server can crosscheck files and code in memory in a client when he tries to start the game, or when he docks at a station. That wouldn't put too much pressure on the servers.
2- other players in the same instance could use their own client to check ship's data of another. The premise is simple here: get the various attributes of the ship, as well as a list of modules and modifications, and do the math. If the ship has damage, shields or whatever different from what it should, then it's a cheater.
This method can be run passively during combat, or before the instance starts, when the connection is being established between peers.
Note: this method cannot detect cheats like infinite distributor energy, infinite shields, or perma-boost,unless the peers are constantly doing the math of others to cross-check each and every action.
Here's what can be done:
1- the server can crosscheck files and code in memory in a client when he tries to start the game, or when he docks at a station. That wouldn't put too much pressure on the servers.
2- other players in the same instance could use their own client to check ship's data of another. The premise is simple here: get the various attributes of the ship, as well as a list of modules and modifications, and do the math. If the ship has damage, shields or whatever different from what it should, then it's a cheater.
This method can be run passively during combat, or before the instance starts, when the connection is being established between peers.
Note: this method cannot detect cheats like infinite distributor energy, infinite shields, or perma-boost,unless the peers are constantly doing the math of others to cross-check each and every action.
That would be a grand event, indeed.I hope the Thargoids blast Shinrarta into space junk someday.
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No Pilot's Federation systems can have their control taken away from them. I still don't understand the point about PP, I know what LYR does, but it doesn't affect Shinrarta, Jameson Memorial, or me I'm afraid.
You got yours, so why care about anyone else, am I right?
I hope the Thargoids blast Shinrarta into space junk someday.
No, you're wrong, that is not what I said at all. I'm not sure why people are so intent on twisting others' words to fit their own agenda
What I was doing was pointing out that the assertion that the BGS and PP affect every one, is not correct. The majority, probably. Everyone, nope.
p.s I'd quite enjoy watching Jameson getting attacked
You can add me to that. I gave up giving a damn about PP and BGS a long time ago during the height of the Hotel California threads
But still you are affected, if only due to your favorite Interstellar Factors having vanished after the latest BGS shenanigans for example.
You may not give a damn, but you ARE affected by it.
No Pilot's Federation systems can have their control taken away from them. I still don't understand the point about PP, I know what LYR does, but it doesn't affect Shinrarta, Jameson Memorial, or me I'm afraid.
No, you're wrong, that is not what I said at all. I'm not sure why people are so intent on twisting others' words to fit their own agenda
What I was doing was pointing out that the assertion that the BGS and PP affect every one, is not correct. The majority, probably. Everyone, nope.
p.s I'd quite enjoy watching Jameson getting attacked
Ain't twisting nothing, friend. We're talking about an issue that affects wide swaths of the game and you decide to nitpick.
Shameful.
I'm not bothered that the topic was started by a member of SDC, it could have been any of us got ticked off enough to start it off. I'm even less bothered by 'them PvP'ers' or 'oh yeah, Open 
' comments. Anyone using such observations are expressing their own opinions, we're all allowed to do that here.
I don't accept that 'cheats don't affect my game' though... Look, they don't/won't affect MY game directly, I may never see a cheater in my game-play life (fingers crossed), but they do affect us all, in the end, because every cheat active actually does bring our game closer to the point where playing in Open or PG (think about it...) is no longer viable as any competitive aspect of the game is vulnerable, even subtly, to imbalance. Yes, I know a well built PvP ship is as imbalanced today to us 'ordinairy' folk as a cheat godship would be to them...
Solo, I can't make too many comments on, I've spent a lot of game hours there, it's fine - but really the 'single player' part of ED, apart from the BGS, of course (I can't comment on PP as I have exactly zero experience there) and I'm only recently involved in getting my feet wet with that!
Cheaters can destroy our game, should their numbers grow out of hand, if the Developers cannot detect the code they use effectively, as the game's credibility could be so damaged that the plug is pulled on BGS/PP/Exploration due to an inability to assess if any achievement was gained 'legally'.
My opinion only above, although I have been thinking around each comment raised here (and similar threads) and trying to extrapolate what could happen.
' comments. Anyone using such observations are expressing their own opinions, we're all allowed to do that here.I don't accept that 'cheats don't affect my game' though... Look, they don't/won't affect MY game directly, I may never see a cheater in my game-play life (fingers crossed), but they do affect us all, in the end, because every cheat active actually does bring our game closer to the point where playing in Open or PG (think about it...) is no longer viable as any competitive aspect of the game is vulnerable, even subtly, to imbalance. Yes, I know a well built PvP ship is as imbalanced today to us 'ordinairy' folk as a cheat godship would be to them...
Solo, I can't make too many comments on, I've spent a lot of game hours there, it's fine - but really the 'single player' part of ED, apart from the BGS, of course (I can't comment on PP as I have exactly zero experience there) and I'm only recently involved in getting my feet wet with that!
Cheaters can destroy our game, should their numbers grow out of hand, if the Developers cannot detect the code they use effectively, as the game's credibility could be so damaged that the plug is pulled on BGS/PP/Exploration due to an inability to assess if any achievement was gained 'legally'.
My opinion only above, although I have been thinking around each comment raised here (and similar threads) and trying to extrapolate what could happen.
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