There's nothing to stop them doing any of that with the FSS.
Allow use of pre 3.3 Advanced Discovery Scanner
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There's nothing to stop them doing any of that with the FSS.
No exaggeration - I stopped counting when you went over 250 in one thread.
(Yes I know they were not ALL "FSS is 'jobbie'" posts.)Of course you can keep posting about whatever you want (and people can comment on your posts and vice versa) and it would be good if you found your way back into the game again. It is just unfortunate that you have painted yourself into a corner by stating that the FSS is the worst thing since mouldy bread and that it stops you from playing.
Yes, I do realise that and appreciate Your upright contribution to this thread.
Some posts in this thread must have influenced my view of the situation. Sorry for misunderstanding.
There was nothing to stop them doing it with the ADS before it was removed. There is no need to choose or force new gameplay on existing customers, the two can happily co-exist. One, the other or both combined there is no balancing issue that justifies their removal or prevents the old modules being reinstated.
No exaggeration - I stopped counting when you went over 250 in one thread.
Of course you can keep posting about whatever you want (and people can comment on your posts and vice versa) and it would be good if you found your way back into the game again. It is just unfortunate that you have painted yourself into a corner by stating that the FSS is the worst thing since mouldy bread and that it stops you from playing.
Yes but every thread i could post in would have been all of them. I keep my posting to correct threads 99.9% Refusing to engage with the FSS isnt hurting me at all, its saving me from getting even more annoyed by it. It tips the balance between an admittedly long and aquired taste search but something i found enjoyable to something i dont like and will never enjoy. I saw everything i needed to see on obsidian ants "how to" on youtube. If the FSS is the only way then i will go and play something else.
Adding a timesink to the biggest timesink in gaming history (exploring possibly 400b stars) was not a good idea. Its just too much.
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Of course. Nothing stops them. It's just about the way it is forced upon all groups, not all expecting the same from the exploration aspect.
It's just that the way it's forced upon such group in a way those(me included) find impairing. It genuinely has negative impact on our view of the game.
Please, for further clarification of my point reffer to my post quoted below:
Exactly. Further backed up by the fact that as mentioned before in this thread, people did want ADS to be kept in game.
You see that is exactly what I am talking about - you have not even TRIED it yourself - you originally stated that you based your aversion purely on a "content creator's" video and here you are repeating that.
I mean, seriously, you bug-out of a game which you have invested time and treasure in because of a video - not even taking the time to try?
Ok sorry for being negative. This game, trading is boring, missions are boring, i have fought AI opponants in too many games over the years to get any interest there and i think i would probably not be very good at PVP partly cause i dont really want to kill anybody elses ship. Exploring the galaxy was the only part of ED that i actually enjoyed. It required almost a kind of role play from the player but it was "real" Its not any more cause of the FSS. I suppose in a long winded kind of way im saying it breaks immersion.
I looked at the keybind screen for a bit and was like... "nope"
Edit: i guess im funny like this, but i look at it and i reckon it would be really easy to use some kind of external program to cheat and get the old functionality back illigally. But if i was to do that the game would cease to be worth playing for me anyway. It really is lose lose for me.
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I do admit that It is a bit controversial to base one's feelings on a video, but the highlight of the issue is spot on. We are required to perform the scan. Time increases and we are forced to spend more time in systems we would otherwise not have spent more than refuel and FSD charge time in. We can no longer deduce that from the map.
All exploring now takes is knowledge to operate the FSS, not really a knack for exploring.
Allow variety for those who want it. Allow others to explore not only the galaxy but also methods they'd like to use to do just that.
Everyone could decide what type of play suits them.
That is just not true. Honk is the same, open FSS instead of System Map, look at signals not pictures, decide to scan or jump. The only possible excuse you have for time being a factor is having to be at min throttle to open FSS screen - that can be just for a few seconds, hardly game-changing. In systems with ONLY stars then the FSS is faster as you don't even have to open the FSS screen to know there are no bodies to scan - you only open FSS to see if there are any NSF which I have never found in systems with just stars.
If you do decide to scan then the FSS is enormously faster than using the old DSS.
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There aren't two 'versions'.
The ADS functionality is used to populate the System map. The FSS (fix your autocorrect
) actually performs the function of the old-DSS - which is still present in the game. Changes to 'honk' functionality would be done in the ADS code and automatically affect the FSS. Changes to FSS functionality don't impact the ADS.It's literally a filter in the ADS code that hides undiscovered bodies until the FSS 'finds' them.
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Watching youtube has been a useful tool in deciding if i wanted to buy quite a few games. Its prevented me buying alot of games but it made me buy subnautica. I would also add that there are many games i have never tryed and yet am certain i dont want to play.
As I mentioned above, the issue is not what is in the system but more how it's placed there. FSS spectrum graph won't tell me whether the system has 4 gas giants orbiting eachother in close orbits.
System map did. That's the main issue.
You, Sir missed my point.
Well OkayDokey if what "grabs your change" is looking for pretty arrangements then I concede that point and point out that the proposal in beta would have allowed for this. (I see yet another thread has been started in this general vein.)
BTW There is no need to call me sir any more, I am retired now.
Also, referring to some of your earlier posts, I may think I am divine but you need not use reverential capitalization of the pronoun for me (i.e. You). It looks really strange to me although I assume you are merely attempting politeness. That is all I would like others to notice. Such solution would allow all player groups to be happy with all systems in place - at least I see it that way.
That ships already sailed, well I say sailed its really been scrapped and replaced with something better. Its a done deal.