Sad humanity.
5 logs in 5 months. Really? I have that many disconnects from internet issues with this game...you really got to make this stuff more believable for FDEV to act.
How about 10 players with increasing levels of ridiculouness? 1 per month for 5 months. 6 times per month for 5 months. 20 times per month for 5 months.....etc. You might actually hit their threshold for banning folks....since you don't know what the threshold is..you can't claim to know if they are, or are not, doing anything.
Great, they can see the cheaters are crying about..........cheaters. [wacko]I'm willing to bet this one hits games-media int the next 24 hours as well...![]()
Pay for his game and ask nice and maybe he will. [haha]Then play in solo.
Great, they can see the cheaters are crying about..........cheaters. [wacko]
Now the world will see how cheaters are. [yesnod]
Sure, but FDev has made it clear that they are not capable of 'zero tolerance'. There has to be solid evidence that there is clogging going on. 1 forced disconnect/month is not enough to prove there is a problem.
Just because SDC and company will kick and scream to get their way doesn't mean it is a good reason, despite what nonsense they would have you believe.
Just because anyone and company will kick and scream to get their way doesn't mean it is a good reason, despite what nonsense they would have you believe.
That griefing and ganking you speak of is called gameplay.
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But hey that's the nature of these forums isn't it? A kicking and screaming whinge-fest.
If it's just that then this thread is just and advertisement for the SDC; because, up unitl this thread, they had barely been news lately.
All this thread does is raise their public profile again... which has nothing to do with gameplay.
They likes the attention because it keeps them relevant, yes.
Does remind me of when one of their members was caught logging...dunno what happened there.
5 logs in 5 months. Really? I have that many disconnects from internet issues with this game...you really got to make this stuff more believable for FDEV to act.
How about 10 players with increasing levels of ridiculouness? 1 per month for 5 months. 6 times per month for 5 months. 20 times per month for 5 months.....etc. You might actually hit their threshold for banning folks....since you don't know what the threshold is..you can't claim to know if they are, or are not, doing anything.
So there's only two possible options going on here:
1 - FDev CANNOT TELL between a legit client disconnect and a CL.
2 - FDev just don't care that CL is going on
there is no option 3
Congrats, don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
But again, where were the SDC's and others in the known threads asking for an obvious and consequential engineering exploit to be fixed? Instead it was abused by many while the others knew about it and kept quiet, while knowingly fighting alongside those ships engineered via exploits and indirectly benefiting from it in wing or group fights.
It seems the group as a whole condones exploiting as long as it's something that they can benefit from and is not being openly or effectively used against them. Quite the double standard, but that is not at all surprising.
So, erm, is that because you didn't know about it or just didn't publicise it?
OP is SDC and therefore loses all credibility. The vast majority of them were using the engineer exploit and lost all of them when Frontier took action.
This whole effort sounds like they're trying to "get back" at Frontier for messing with their ill-gained mods.
The threshold is 1
what part of that can you not undertand?
As Rinzler stated not even after the 5th time with a recorded CL was even so much as a warning letter or infraction or whatever issued. NOTHING. If FDev's statement of "we can tell internally" between a CL and a client disconnect is true, then the arguement of "I've had many disconnects in combat" means nothing.
to repeat the threshold is 1, as stated by FDev OFFICIALLY. "a combat log is a bannable offense".
not 5, not 8 not 10 or 20 - ONE, with documentation and recorded evidence.
So there's only two possible options going on here:
1 - FDev CANNOT TELL between a legit client disconnect and a CL.
2 - FDev just don't care that CL is going on
#2 being proven when they've had thier noses rubbed in it, multiple times, "actions speak louder than words". It's clear that SDC have made a concerted effort to show up FDev's poor record on this and FDev has responded with NOTHING - not even a token "ban someone, ANYONE, just make it look like we are doing what we said we would f.f.s. or we look like fools".
there is no option 3
I'm no fan of SDC - I've railed against them and thier ethos for some time - but this thread shows that on this topic at least, they have the larger playerbases experience in mind, and are tryign to bring FDev to heel for the good of everyone.
Here's the bottom line people
If FDev are not even honoring thier own words regarding what they class as a "bannable" offense - what hope do we the players have for holding them accountable for the numerous other things wrong with the game? (and the missing KS content).
That quote should read like this:
But hey that's the nature of these forums isn't it? A kicking and screaming whinge-fest.
If it's just that then this thread is just and advertisement for the SDC; because, up unitl this thread, they had barely been news lately.
All this thread does is raise their public profile again... which has nothing to do with gameplay.
I spend a lot of my game time in Sydney, Aus, connected to the NBN HFC network. I reckon I get disconnected 5-6 times a night, easily.
Google NBN HFC problems, and you'll realise why a disconnect a month means nothing.
I approve of trying to get CL looked at and taken more seriously, but, sadly, I think it's harder to prove that someone *is* combat logging than proving that they are not.
Kinda like proving that Bigfoot doesn't exist, you simply can't.
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