In terms of being more important than the video game "I fancy a coffee" is more than sufficient.
PvP An Investigation Into Frontier's Actions on Combat Logging, Part 2
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In terms of being more important than the video game "I fancy a coffee" is more than sufficient.
Don't play in open then ^
Only had one situation where I had to drop my controller and go.
Was in super. Pointed the ship out and full throttle. Easy.
Combat logging for coffee isn't going to cut it in combat...
Some interesting excuses here.
They had plenty of opportunity for healthy dialog. They've ignored a glaring issue for years.
Its not going away.
Only had one situation where I had to drop my controller and go.
Was in super. Pointed the ship out and full throttle. Easy.
Combat logging for coffee isn't going to cut it in combat...
Some interesting excuses here.
They had plenty of opportunity for healthy dialog. They've ignored a glaring issue for years.
Its not going away.
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Exactly, I don't buy that excuse for combat logging. No life story but I care for a family member who is terminally ill, and if I hear coughing or spluttering in the night I drop the controller and go, sometimes I scrawl down "afk" in chat, and sometimes the person even stops shooting.
Contrary to what a lot of people think about PvPers, most are not children, and understand s- happens. Not that it's on them too, as you say its pixels so if it's a real life emergence just let those pixels die.
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There are so many different ways to potentially offend the easily offended it's easy to tie yourself up in knots trying to not offend anyone. I'm sure people get 'offended' by your choices of how, when & where to play, just as you are offended by an 'inconsiderate' player with a poor connection to you in your instance.
Try not to offend, but try not to be so easily offended either. Nobody's perfect. They probably think it's your connection that sucks.
Exactly. If someone throws AFK I'd just tuck HPs and leave.
The reality of this is it's literally a 1-100 scenario. Maybe even lower. I'd be willing to gamble on it and trust them.
Is this a three rights make a left scenario?
My game my choice, you can give your opinion on what I do at the menu screen and I might consider it or ignore it depends on how well you make your argument.
I thought we were talking about menu logging for coffee, or a biscuit or pretty much anything in the real world as being more important. Nobody has actually suggested combat logging for coffee.
You've made your argument badly, I'm not going to seriously consider what you want me to do at the menu screen.
Drama built on nothing doesn't seem to be working, I'd go so far to say it's actively counterproductive. See how I reacted above to you trying to infer I combat log for coffee as a practical example.
Well. My game. My choice.
With that logic the gankers can keep ganking no?
It doesn't matter how intelligently or articulate the proposal is. You're going to do as you wish and so am I.
If throwing FDev to the wolves is what it takes to rectify a problem then so be it.
It's garnished a ton of attention here. I hope SDC continues their mission until it's goal is met.
With that logic the gankers can keep ganking no?
It doesn't matter how intelligently or articulate the proposal is. You're going to do as you wish and so am I.
If throwing FDev to the wolves is what it takes to rectify a problem then so be it.
It's garnished a ton of attention here. I hope SDC continues their mission until it's goal is met.
Yes obviously of course they can, it's a perfectly valid approach to the game as it stands. They may need to adapt to the proposed new C&P stuff, but that remains to be seen.
Then why make it.
They haven't been thrown to the wolves though have they, the one story I saw about all this in the gaming media was conspicuously lacking the five clogs over five months line. Which tells you everything you need to know about how seriously the press thought readers would take such low numbers if they included them.
It's a lot more likely they've had their accounts flagged as timewasters, and deterred actual DEV's from talking about this in case they find themselves being misquoted in the press by vindictive types who openly admit they have axe to grind and want to generate bad publicity (artificially or otherwise). Nobody will touch it now.
This has inadvertently proved two things, if you are of a mood to poke holes in the claim clogging is a serious issue :
1 : People do submit false reports.
2 : Clogging is such a minor problem they couldn't find enough real ones and had to fake it.
Unfortunately it's not a minor problem. In terms of power play I've experienced logs in excess of 50%.
Piracy was lower averaged over all, but some days saw logs as high as 90%
Although I doubt we will reach agreement on it. I see it nearly everyday. Depending on your play style you may not.
Piracy was lower averaged over all, but some days saw logs as high as 90%
Although I doubt we will reach agreement on it. I see it nearly everyday. Depending on your play style you may not.
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Do you differentiate between menu and combat logging ?.
Not always easy to keep track of how they are taking damage while tanking cops, prepping limpets and talking to who I'm trying to pirate.
There's a few here and there but honestly it's pretty rare
There's a few here and there but honestly it's pretty rare
How do you tell the difference ?.
Combat log damage stops instantly, the ship no longer takes status effects and disappears after a while
Menu log they take full damage and status effects until they disappear.
Reporting them changes/does nothing- this has been established. We've reported chronic loggers and nothing was done.
They've been "working on" CLing since 2016. So you can see how we are all a bit skeptical.
As far as "tools for dealing with the combat logger" it usually involves a heavy ship and running them over. Doesn't work all the time but it is sooooo sweet when does. Can't log on a bad ram! MEEP MEEP!
See, they won't even talk about combat logging, even in the most remote form. We get a copy paste reply and end of story.
This thread is less than a month old with over 100 pages. That's pretty rapid progression and on par with those you mentioned.
But. I suspect it's all for nothing. Apparently one form of cheating is more justifiable than another is what I'm seeing.
They've been "working on" CLing since 2016. So you can see how we are all a bit skeptical.
As far as "tools for dealing with the combat logger" it usually involves a heavy ship and running them over. Doesn't work all the time but it is sooooo sweet when does. Can't log on a bad ram! MEEP MEEP!
See, they won't even talk about combat logging, even in the most remote form. We get a copy paste reply and end of story.
This thread is less than a month old with over 100 pages. That's pretty rapid progression and on par with those you mentioned.
But. I suspect it's all for nothing. Apparently one form of cheating is more justifiable than another is what I'm seeing.
They have used that logic for years, yeah. Don't like it when the tables are turned it seems.
I guess taking away the ship / credits they kept by cheating would be a good start
Sewerrat, my thoughts exactly.
Kalie, at the end of the day theres no point in me laying this all out to people that don't actively PvP or partake in piracy.
Your perception of the situation is limited by your understanding. Seriously. Go out and try piracy. See how many Alt F4 it.
It might even become clear why people just start blowing ships up.
Kalie, at the end of the day theres no point in me laying this all out to people that don't actively PvP or partake in piracy.
Your perception of the situation is limited by your understanding. Seriously. Go out and try piracy. See how many Alt F4 it.
It might even become clear why people just start blowing ships up.
This is utter condescending garbage.
You just can't be bothered to put the effort in, just like the Clogging gankers can't be bothered to accept they won't win every fight. Do you want everything handed to you on a plate, or are you going to put some effort into achieving your goal?
Please, elaborate.
Ah, the old snip a portion of a post method, very nice. Always helpful to leave pertinent information behind.
Effort? What exactly is spending 3 hours of your night doing piracy and having more than half the targets log? A walk in the park? Seems like effort to me.
"Oh but what about the traders efforts?!"
-Clicked *Open*, the risks within that should be pretty obvious.
As soon as a target boosts away after I've made my "All I want is cargo, not your life" they've made their choice. I'm going to blow them up.
What about this is asking for things to be handed to me on a plate? Explain that to me.
I want people to be accountable for decisions made in game.
If those choices get you killed then so be it!