I agree perhaps it is time to split the PvP and PvE and have a true PvE open group rather than having to leave it to a private group to run PvE for Frontier then it will end a lot of these arguments,
I think you're missing the point somewhat... a good proportion of combat loggers are griefers themselves, going about clubbing sideys, n00bs etc.. this in itself would create some emergent gameplay with others trying to combat this, but no... they also combat log and continue to grief... the fact is combat logging is dragging this whole game down on a multitude of levels and stunting its possibilities.