Analyzing required animals by Taxonomical group

What's your appetite specifically for a second baboon or a gelada?
Neither are strong priorities for me. There are at least 10 primates I would pick before a gelada, and I'm not interested in a baboon at all.

My tiers of primates:
  • Utterly Essential: ~3 tamarins/marmosets (though I'd still be very happy with just the GLT), spider monkey, howler monkey, guereza
  • Important Regional Picks: golden snub-nosed monkey, Indian monkey(s), maybe barbary macaque?
  • Zoo-relevant: squirrel monkey, De Brazza's guenon, saki, grivet
  • Popular for some reason: gelada, sifaka
  • Fun oddballs: aye-aye, uakari
  • I just want it: red-shanked douc
 
What's your appetite specifically for a second baboon or a gelada?
I was fine with either hamadryas or gelada but if one is added i dont need the other.
If we by some miracle get more old world monkeys i much rather have a few more classical monkeys like guerezas or grey langur before considering a second baboon or gelada.

See i a vacuum i think having variety among baboons would be great, like have a desert one with the hamadryas, a grasslands one with olive and the gelada for whatever their mountain meadows count as.
But with how frontier treats primates, and especially monkeys, variety or choices just isnt something you can affort imo.
 
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Where do we stand on the groups we know are getting boosted in this pack?
Small cats: still would like a bunch: ocelot, fishing cat, serval, bobcat.
Big cats: now i'm 100% satisfied with the big cats. Don't need nor want no more. Mods for Sumatran tiger and any other leopard subspecies and lion remaster if Frontier never really gives it the face lift and hair work it deserves.
Caprines: only other one i still need is the musk ox. For the rest: mods.
African monkeys: i still want a bunch but the mods coming out are pretty good lately. Still i think we should get at least one or two classic african monkey (guereza, diana, Vervet). And i would like the gelada as well.
 
What's your appetite specifically for a second baboon or a gelada?
Gelada would be pretty cool but a "normal" african monkey would take priority.
Its an animal type where a second would defenetly be great for some more choice, especally as many find the hamadryas a bit off putting, but monkeys are just in such a dire spot that other ones take priority, with the gelada as a luxus variety pick vs actually needed new primates that bring something new to the table
 
For animal groups:

Old work monkeys: Big step into the right Direction and this is imo the halfway point to good representation. It now is by the truest sense of the world okay enough, covering a macaque, a langur, a baboon and the largest guenon, but it really should also feature atleast a small guenon and a not incredibly rare langur. If we get these 2 then id be willing to call old world monkeys decently represented, now we just gotta hope we will actually get them.

Small Cats: Taxonomically we are good here, but theres defenetly still an open niche for the ocelot. Once we have the ocelot though any other new cat would just be extra

Big Cats: Speaking of "just an extra" the african leopard is just that. Dont know why anyone would need a leopard with a slightly different name and couldnt just use the amur, but now that its here it does literally nothing for the game.
Good thing panthera was allready complete, means that literally nothing changed.
Imagine what new world monkey stonks would look like if the capuchin would have gotten the same treatment, adding in the tufted, such a shame especally as you could actually the two apart.

Goats: The himalaya is good now that it has a goat goat but as many others said an arid one aka the barbary sheep would be neat.
Musk ox also would defenetly add something new and unique, but its niche to a point where its either one of the most needed additions if you want to build elaborate arctic areas or they just are not relevant if you dont, being propaply the definition of extremly important in what it adds but sadly in an area that is generally niche in itself.
 
I was fine with either hamadryas or gelada but if one is added i dont need the other.
If we by some miracle get more old world monkeys i much rather have a few more classical monkeys like guerezas or grey langur before considering a second baboon or gelada.

See i a vacuum i think having variety among baboons would be great, like have a desert one with the hamadryas, a grasslands one with olive and the gelada for whatever their mountain meadows count as.
But with how frontier treats primates, and especially monkeys, variety or choices just isnt something you can affort imo.
And since geladas were not actually baboons and don't count, I would want baboon to be there more and first before gelada.
 
See i a vacuum i think having variety among baboons would be great, like have a desert one with the hamadryas, a grasslands one with olive and the gelada for whatever their mountain meadows count as.
We kinda get it with the mandrill and hamadrayas. One is tropical and the other is desert-taiga-grasslands. Add in the Japanese macaque for Tundra and cold climate, the proboscis monkey for aquatic, and you've got an old-world monkey for every biome.
 
What is our status on:
  • Antelopes (dikdik)
  • Bears (spectacled bear)
  • Caprines (Markhor)
  • Old world monkeys (Hamadrayas baboon)
  • Small cats (Pallas cat)
  • Lemurs (Sifaka)
  • Tortoises (African spurred tortoise)
  • Panthers (African leopard)
 
What is our status on:
  • Antelopes (dikdik)
  • Bears (spectacled bear)
  • Caprines (Markhor)
  • Old world monkeys (Hamadrayas baboon)
  • Small cats (Pallas cat)
  • Lemurs (Sifaka)
  • Tortoises (African spurred tortoise)
  • Panthers (African leopard)
Antelopes: Pretty good, there's some species I want but none I'd consider essential.
Bears: More than enough, frankly the Spectacled Bear is one too many for my liking.
Caprines: Perfect I'd say, I can't think of any more species I want.
Old World monkeys: I wouldn't mind a Guereza, but other than that, pretty good.
Small cats: The Ocelot would be welcome, but I don't consider it a must-have.
Lemurs: Perfect. We do not need another lemur. Even this one is really pushing it.
Tortoises: Also perfect. We finally have one from a non-tropical climate.
Panthers: Again, perfect, any further additions would be pointless clones.
 
Antelope--still more than enough overall but at least one Asian antelope would be nice, I guess.
Bears--Literally just the ABB is missing and it's pretty important for American zoos.
Caprines--Fine.
Old world monkeys--need at least a colobus and maybe another Asian monkey like a lion-tailed macaque.
Small cats--Fine. Maybe the ocelot and/or serval at most.
Lemurs--Fine.
Tortoises--I'd like a smaller habitat tortoise, especially for Latin America, like the red-footed tortoise.
Panthera--Completely done.
 
What is our status on:
  • Antelopes (dikdik)
  • Bears (spectacled bear)
  • Caprines (Markhor)
  • Old world monkeys (Hamadrayas baboon)
  • Small cats (Pallas cat)
  • Lemurs (Sifaka)
  • Tortoises (African spurred tortoise)
  • Panthers (African leopard)
  • Antelope: We still need a blackbuck. There are also some great nice-to-haves like the nilgai and a few African antelope, but we're mainly just missing the blackbuck as a regional choice.
  • Bears: Missing one: the American black bear. I think a colormorph bear would go over well.
  • Caprines: Done, but a desert one would be pretty nice.
  • Old world monkeys: Much better, but not quite done. They are not as needed as a few New World monkeys, but I think something like a guereza and/or guenon is clearly missing. The GSNM, an Indian monkey, and the barbary macaque also seem like rather important regional picks, but I could live without those 3.
  • Small Cats: Not done. I still think a serval and ocelot are popular, needed, and would probably be well-received. A fishing cat would be pretty nice, too.
  • Lemurs: More than done, but I wouldn't mind getting an aye-aye if support goes on for a long time.
  • Tortoises: Done with the habitat ones, but a pancake tortoise might be cool in an exhibit. I don't think the medium-sized ones are super likely.
  • Big Cats: More than done.
 
Mammal wise - just new world Monkeys at this point. The Coati and Tree Kangaroo are from branches that are either fairly small or already fairly well represented. Based on those factors it does kind of excuse their absence from the game, no matter how highly requested they were.

Birds - Birds birds birds in general. And more birds. And that's just habitat birds.
 
What is our status on:
  • Antelopes (dikdik)
  • Bears (spectacled bear)
  • Caprines (Markhor)
  • Old world monkeys (Hamadrayas baboon)
  • Small cats (Pallas cat)
  • Lemurs (Sifaka)
  • Tortoises (African spurred tortoise)
  • Panthers (African leopard)
With the caveat that it could not possibly be more explicit that this is the last pack,
  • Antelopes: Always room for more, but "a smaller one" was the biggest missing niche so this was a good inclusion even if it's a disappointing one. I think the only two pressing inclusions at this point are at least one more common Asian species (nilgai or blackbuck), and a larger one (kudu or eland).
  • Bears: It is now more imperative than ever to just go 8 for 8 and close this chapter.
  • Caprines: I would never say no to the aoudad, as a warm climate African caprine, but I think that's the only one I'd be okay with prioritizing.
  • Old world monkeys: We still need more. Ideally, we'd have a colobus, at least one guenon, and an Indian species and things wouldn't be disproportionate to most other mammal groups.
  • Small cats: Ocelot and serval are still truly essential, with fishing cat being a slightly distant third. Keep the cats coming at least until then.
  • Lemurs: Like the dik-dik, the sifaka was a good if underwhelming addition. I don't think any more lemurs are necessary at this point, but I think the aye-aye could be fun and mostly welcome.
  • Tortoises: Too little, too late here. I honestly think we could stand to have a half dozen or so of these guys total before we're in a good spot, and it's absurd that it took us until our final DLC to have any added. Radiated tortoise, red-footed tortoise, and Burmese mountain tortoise are all great ideas.
  • Panthers: The African leopard might be the worst addition to the game since launch. We are at 7 out of 5 panthers. Honestly the only real way forward here is for PZ to rework its base game lion and tigers so that we have a more general African lion, and then a cold weather mainland tiger plus the Sumatran tiger. We really, really, really do not need to add an 8th big cat under any circumstances, however.
 
What is our status on:
  • Antelopes (dikdik)
  • Bears (spectacled bear)
  • Caprines (Markhor)
  • Old world monkeys (Hamadrayas baboon)
  • Small cats (Pallas cat)
  • Lemurs (Sifaka)
  • Tortoises (African spurred tortoise)
  • Panthers (African leopard)
Antelopes: Very weird, we have so many but the variety between them isnt that great. The dik dik being our first small one helps but having no really big one or one from asia thats actually in zoos is weird.
Bears: They are arguably the best represented family of animals we have, with literally every single one aside from the black bear being added.
Caprines: They are in a pretty good spot, one arid one would be neat to have but far from priority imo
OWM: Baboon is an awesome addition, but if you compare what we have with the diversity they have in zoos the roster still stinks.
Small cats: There are a couple you can argue for making good additions, but none are top prio imo
Lemurs: Very good spot, aye aye would be cool but i feel that wouldnt really work in PZ
Tortoises: I still really want a smallish one like red footed
Panthers: Best represented genus by far. There literally is everyone adde plus two additional subspecies on top
 
What is our status on:
  • Antelopes (dikdik)
  • Bears (spectacled bear)
  • Caprines (Markhor)
  • Old world monkeys (Hamadrayas baboon)
  • Small cats (Pallas cat)
  • Lemurs (Sifaka)
  • Tortoises (African spurred tortoise)
  • Panthers (African leopard)
As always, the work is never done!
  1. Antelope is great, but no blackbuck or nilgai is felt.
  2. Bears are doing great, but no ABB is also felt. (Considering the high amount of Asian bear species, we could easily trade the ABB for another)
  3. Caprines are doing wonderfull, but a warm weather Aoudad would be nice.
  4. Old world monkeys is the same as all of the above, we need at least one true Monkey for both Africa and Asia.
  5. Small cats is good, just need the ocelot.
  6. Lemurs is more than good, aye aye would be nice but not a priority.
  7. Tortoises are great, just need the red footed I think.
  8. Panthers are so above good it’s so silly to me.
 
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