Anyone else thinking of asking for a refund?

Stigbob

Stigbob
Powderpanic said:
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

It's not hard to harvest mountains of salt on this forum.

You just point out reality, without worrying if it will offend people.

I am the hero that frontier deserves



Powderpanic
The Voice of Griefing
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Get a haircut.
 

6opoDuJIo

6opoDuJIo
ALLIANCE CHIEFTAIN, GUARDIAN MODULES, WING MISSIONS WEREN'T EITHER ON A KICKSTARTER/ORIGINAL GAME, MATERIALS STORAGE HAVE BEEN CHANGED, AND RNJESUS FACTOR REMOVED FROM ENGINEERING. HOW DARE THEM TO CHANGE/IMPROVE THE PRODUCT. IF ANYONE ELSE AGREE, ASK FOR A REFUND TOGETHER WITH ME
 

WR3ND

WR3ND
Wolf Starslayer said:
I thought you didn't play anymore? In that case surely I should haz urs?
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That's the thing though. What is play anyway and what does it mean to you and what meaning can you find from it?

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At the end of the day, this is what I have to fall back on, and yeah, I can dig it. Guilty pleasure, I suppose.
 

WR3ND

WR3ND
6opoDuJIo said:
ALLIANCE CHIEFTAIN, GUARDIAN MODULES, WING MISSIONS WEREN'T EITHER ON A KICKSTARTER/ORIGINAL GAME, MATERIALS STORAGE HAVE BEEN CHANGED, AND RNJESUS FACTOR REMOVED FROM ENGINEERING. HOW DARE THEM TO CHANGE/IMPROVE THE PRODUCT. IF ANYONE ELSE AGREE, ASK FOR A REFUND TOGETHER WITH ME
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I think you need to calm down a little. Besides, the Chieftain kind of sucks unless you're broke or something. Just Engineer a Vulture; way more fun and worthy of using, in my opinion.

Oh well, to each their own. I don't think the Vulture was in the game when I first started playing, or leastwise it was close around then. So, fair point, sort of. I mean, if you're not worried about context and all that frivolous fluff.

YMMV
 
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Stigbob

Stigbob
6opoDuJIo said:
ALLIANCE CHIEFTAIN, GUARDIAN MODULES, WING MISSIONS WEREN'T EITHER ON A KICKSTARTER/ORIGINAL GAME. HOW DARE THEM TO CHANGE/IMPROVE THE PRODUCT. IF ANYONE ELSE AGREE, ASK FOR A REFUND TOGETHER WITH ME
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No you see, by saying they're considering open only PP they've promised it and that means under the law of the internet it's false advertising to not do it immediately. We should use the same legal team as the OP to keep all the paperwork nice and tidy and force them to and prevent them from doing it simultaneously.
 

dognosh

dognosh
m0rl0ck said:
I thought the Engineers was as low as it was possible to go in bad game design, but here FD is thinking about changing the basic nature of the game after we bought it.
Not that i really care whether pp is open only or not, but just on the principle that FD shouldnt be rewarded for changing the basic nature of the product from what was advertised and sold, I am thiniking about asking for a refund. This sets a precedent i dont want to see play out.
A vendor removing basic features from a product after its sold and the money is in the vendors pocket seems unethical, maybe fradulent, and possibly illegal.
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No.......
 

6opoDuJIo

6opoDuJIo
WR3ND said:
I think you need to calm down
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And I think you need to understand the context and point of me hyperbolizing point of "refund demanders".
And again, ahem :
FSP BOOSTERS, TECH BROKERS, MATERIAL TRADERS WEREN'T EITHER ON A KICKSTARTER/ORIGINAL GAME. HOW DARE THEM TO CHANGE/IMPROVE THE PRODUCT. WE NEED TO GAME STAY STILL AND STAGNATE BECAUSE WE'RE RIGID. IF ANYONE ELSE AGREE, ASK FOR A REFUND TOGETHER WITH ME
 

WR3ND

WR3ND
6opoDuJIo said:
And I think you need to understand the context and point of me hyperbolizing point of "refund demanders".
And again, ahem :
FSP BOOSTERS, TECH BROKERS, MATERIAL TRADERS WEREN'T EITHER ON A KICKSTARTER/ORIGINAL GAME. HOW DARE THEM TO CHANGE/IMPROVE THE PRODUCT. WE NEED TO GAME STAY STILL AND STAGNATE BECAUSE WE'RE RIGID. IF ANYONE ELSE AGREE, ASK FOR A REFUND TOGETHER WITH ME
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OK, but... who are you talking to that you think cares as much as you about what you're saying? [haha]

We get it. No, seriously, it's alright, mate.
 

6opoDuJIo

6opoDuJIo
WR3ND said:
We get it. No, seriously, it's alright, mate.
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Same goes to everyone who disagree with changes, but we still see more and more threads, more and more replies to those threads that tells the same story over and over again :
OPTIONAL INTERNAL MODULE EXPERIMENTAL EFFECTS, REMOTE ENGINEERING, PASSENGER MISSIONS WEREN'T EITHER ON A KICKSTARTER/ORIGINAL GAME. HOW DARE THEM TO CHANGE/IMPROVE THE PRODUCT. IF ANYONE ELSE AGREE, ASK FOR A REFUND TOGETHER WITH ME OR CREATE ANOTHER TOPIC ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE OUR VOICES HAVE TO BE HEARD BY EVERYONE
 

Wolf Starslayer

Wolf Starslayer
6opoDuJIo said:
And I think you need to understand the context and point of me hyperbolizing point of "refund demanders".
And again, ahem :
FSP BOOSTERS, TECH BROKERS, MATERIAL TRADERS WEREN'T EITHER ON A KICKSTARTER/ORIGINAL GAME. HOW DARE THEM TO CHANGE/IMPROVE THE PRODUCT. WE NEED TO GAME STAY STILL AND STAGNATE BECAUSE WE'RE RIGID. IF ANYONE ELSE AGREE, ASK FOR A REFUND TOGETHER WITH ME
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You're missing the point; Your example is about game changes, this is not what people are upset about. They are upset about mode equvilance being removed despite multiple promises that this wouldn't happen.

These are not the same subjects.
 

WR3ND

WR3ND
6opoDuJIo said:
Same goes to everyone who disagree with changes, but we still see more and more threads, more and more replies to those threads that tells the same story over and over again :
OPTIONAL INTERNAL MODULE EXPERIMENTAL EFFECTS, REMOTE ENGINEERING, PASSENGER MISSIONS WEREN'T EITHER ON A KICKSTARTER/ORIGINAL GAME. HOW DARE THEM TO CHANGE/IMPROVE THE PRODUCT. IF ANYONE ELSE AGREE, ASK FOR A REFUND TOGETHER WITH ME OR CREATE ANOTHER TOPIC ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE OUR VOICES HAVE TO BE HEARD BY EVERYONE
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Does change suddenly mean something that I'm not aware of? Like if I took a dump in your bed for a change of pace, and you, for whatever reason, didn't happen to care for it, would it mean that you didn't care for change and were afraid of it, or would it mean that you just don't like people taking dumps in your bed?

The world may never know.
 

Eidolon

Eidolon
Lucian667 said:
Its definitely unethical to remove game features from a product years after it has already been sold based on those very features. Stellaris did exactly that and their recent reviews on Steam almost instantly plummeted from "mostly positive" to "mostly negative". I cant believe that FD is thinking about going down the same path with Elite. I wont be asking for a refund but I most certainly will be voting with my wallet on any future FD releases by avoiding them like the plague, same as I'm doing with Paradox.

There is a price to pay for such unethical behavior and blatant betrayal of customer trust, it may not be an immediately obvious price but trust me FD, your formerly loyal customers will find a way to pay you back.
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I totally agree.
I have been voting with my wallet for years. No need for refunds, what comes around goes around. Maybe FD will not shoot themselves in the foot or maybe they will.

Not my problem, I have other games ;)
 

zarking

Z
Fdev: guys, here's a thing called powerplay, enjoy.

Player: ugh, I hate it, never going to use it, waste of space. Might as well remove it, sucks totally.

Fred: guys we've been thinking, powerplay might work better as an "open only" thing as it removes the problem of people not playing fair and doing everything in solo where it can't be opposed, hope you approve, enjoy.

(Same) player: WHAT?? open only, noo, how dare you force me to go into open, game ruined, wNtz my moneys back. Even though I've never played it or cared about it and don't really understand the problem you're trying to fix that possibly improves the whole concept, I DON'T CARE I'm the only important one, wahhh.
 

Frank

Frank
m0rl0ck said:
I thought the Engineers was as low as it was possible to go in bad game design, but here FD is thinking about changing the basic nature of the game after we bought it.
Not that i really care whether pp is open only or not, but just on the principle that FD shouldnt be rewarded for changing the basic nature of the product from what was advertised and sold, I am thiniking about asking for a refund. This sets a precedent i dont want to see play out.
A vendor removing basic features from a product after its sold and the money is in the vendors pocket seems unethical, maybe fradulent, and possibly illegal.
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Did you buy Elite: Dangerous specifically to play PowerPlay in Solo? When I bought my copy of Elite PowerPlay wasn't even a suggestion. I wouldn't ask for my money back for a feature I don't use or care about. To tell you the truth I was surprised they didn't make PowerPlay Open only from the get go. They made CQCC a Multiplayer-only feature. Why didn't you demand you money back when they did that?
 

Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
If OP didn't get it - refund really works on unused products - or barely used ones (even by EU law). Not liking direction of development really doesn't cut for it.

Also going salty drama won't make good argument for developers. Form solid opinion and provide feedback in feedback thread. I am personally not supporting Open only idea, but way it is done here is...well, at least it has been fun for forum comedy on Friday night :)
 
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