Nice copying what I said, Pacs are not TOT weapons, they require more TOT than PAs but that doesn't make them TOT weapons, Again this is just total ****, TLB is so easy to counter, one keypress or scroll wheel notch, you are pulling those numbers out of thin air. Also if you are trying to say that, that fight was won by gimballed MC's then we really do have some bigger issues here, stealth is still totally wrong, again you don't know how wing hostility works, it is still the exact same even if it's one person shooting. Also station ambush looool, you don't ambush pvp ships anymore the TTK is waaaaayyy too high again is your Entire PVP experience watching the AA "This is our house" Video??
Bringing up wings is absolutely not a different topic, wing fighting IS pvp, that is what pvp is and what we do, you just have no idea lmao is this some kind of joke? 'Wingfights are won by attrition' of course, that could mean literally anything, and no DPS superiority absolutely does not play a major role, cannot facepalm any harder, application of DPS and ability to evade it is first of all entirely separate and also completely different. That is what wins you wingfights, "evasion doesn't work well against multiple targets" YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, i'm going to have a seizure if you keep typing poopoo like this. You have never done one clearly, you can and people do it every single wingfight there is, it is an absolutely CORE skill of a PVPer, honestly I can't tell if you are just trolling at this point. "yes it is a counter" no it is not, a counter is emissive to Silent running, a counter is missiles to hulltanks, a counter is feedback cascade to banks. having more DPS via different mods is not a "counter" again should this totally incorrect view be correct, isn't it a bit odd that no one runs rapid fire screening shell frags? Given that they have the highest sustained DPS in the game? It certainly isn't to me because having higher DPS is no counter whatsoever. Also if you think you can beat a meta pilot with frags I just suggest you actually try, I can arrange such a fight right now so you can get hit with some reality.