Arid Animal Pack, what do we think of it now?

[Orkan]

Eggi-wan Birdobi vs. Tazmanal Deevilus

“Hello there!”

“General Birdobi! You are a bold one. I find your behavior bewildering. Surely you’ll realize you’re doomed. Cancel him!”

Deevilus’ army of marsupials surrounds Eggi-wan and they stare for a moment

”Enough of this. Back away. I will deal with this Avian slime myself”

”Your move”

”You fool. I have been trained in your popularity arts, by the Forums themselves. Attack, Birdobi”

“You forgot I trained the mammals that defeated the forums. nods in capybara, porcupine, and meerkat

start dueling

“I may not defeat your marsupials, but my predecessors certainly will”

army of butterflies, Egyptian fruit bats, peafowl, flamingos, and cranes fly down from roof

“Fan base or not, you must realize, you are doomed”

”I don’t think so.”

duel continues, eggi-wan runs off temporarily with the help of his supporters, and Deevilus chases after him.

(Meanwhile in the Frontier Development Center)

Devs: “Execute order, twenty three”

(back to the duel)

Eggi-wan shoots Deevilus, causing him to explode.

”So uncivilized”

Birdobi’s army of flight turns against him after the message from the devs. He hides under a platform.

Bordobi wins and convinces the devs to add his kind to the game. But, he does have to go into hiding because of everyone looking for him. (He’s now famous)

 

[juice_box]

Land. Check

Sky. No.

Water. No.

The game feels incomplete without fish or birds.


Renaissance - a revival of or renewed interest in something.

That's exactly what an aquarium pack or aviary pack would be. A revival or renewed interest in PZ. Those two packs by defintion would be a renaissance for this community.

I honestly can't think of anything more gamechanging in my personal opinion, that would make me come back to play PZ than a diverse roster of birds/bats, fish/marine animals.

There is no feature I want more in this game.

There are no two features that would revive my interest in this game more.

 

[Orkan]

Land. Check

Sky. No.

Water. No.

The game feels incomplete without fish or birds.

I can't think of anything more gamechanging in my personal opinion, that would make me come back to play PZ than a diverse roster of birds/bats, fish and marine animals.

There is no feature I want more in this game.

Fish I could do without, but would be a nice addition.

Birds on the other hand, you can’t go without em.

 

[CharlieXGaming]

I can't think of anything more gamechanging in my personal opinion, that would make me come back to play PZ than a diverse roster of birds/bats, fish and marine animals.

That said, can you really say no to these faces.

 

[juice_box]

Fish I could do without, but would be a nice addition.

Birds on the other hand, you can’t go without em.

Can you really say no to these faces

I would do anything to build like this in PZ...

 

[Captain Callum]

Can you really say no to these faces

I would do anything to build like this in PZ...

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All I see is

TERRAIN MODIFICATION FAILED

While I cry in a corner

 

[Orkan]

All I see is

TERRAIN MODIFICATION FAILED

While I cry in a corner

If they ever add aquariums, they’ll really need to rethink the water system, that’s for sure.

 

[juice_box]

I see the glass barriers and exhibits already in place completely usuable.

If the game already has semi aquatic animals such as sea lions and newts, we can have fully aquatic ones.
If the water system already in place works for penguins, seals and sea lions then it can also work for manatees, sharks or dolphins.

The door system could be modified, but PZ already added different door styles in the past. So adding more door styles in the future is possible.

I've also seen what some of these content creators, Rudy CamelCamel, Wyatt Andrews, Leaf, Channel5gaming etc have made (and our boy captain callum)
Check them out if you haven't seen them! So it is possible. YouTube Planet Zoo Aquarium Builds, or Planet Zoo Coral Reef.
They have basically recreated coral reefs, and aquatic habitats without coral, without underwater plants, without proper barriers and without fish etc.
But they look very realistic.

People are making them without all the proper support. Imagine what these content creators and what we could create WITH support. With fish and birds in the game and props to build habitats. If really creative content creators can make coral reefs and aquariums it is possible.

For me, a casual player, I can't recreate them. I've tried. However, I will gladly pay good money for aquarium dlc or bird dlc.

 

[Captain Callum]

I see the glass barriers and exhibits already in place completely usuable.

If the game already has semi aquatic animals such as sea lions and newts, we can have fully aquatic ones.
If the water system already in place works for penguins, seals and sea lions then it can also work for manatees, sharks or dolphins.

The door system could be modified, but PZ already added different door styles in the past. So adding more door styles in the future is possible.

I've also seen what some of these content creators, Rudy CamelCamel, Wyatt Andrews, Leaf, Channel5gaming etc have made.
Check them out if you haven't seen them! So it is possible. YouTube Planet Zoo Aquarium Builds, or Planet Zoo Coral Reef.
They have basically recreated coral reefs, and aquatic habitats without coral, without underwater plants, without proper barriers and without fish etc.
But they look very realistic.

People are making them without all the proper support. Imagine what these content creators and what we could create WITH support. With fish and birds in the game and props to build habitats. If really creative content creators can make coral reefs and aquariums it is possible.

For me, a casual player, I can't recreate them. I've tried. However, I will gladly pay good money for aquarium dlc or bird dlc.

Oh yeah I can make all these custom aquariums with some decent effort put into them, it's just the ingame building system is SO FRUSTRATING hence my most common game error when building above.

Annoying factors like Curved glass, water level dynamics, habitat animal space, levelling the terrain perfectly and that's before we even place the paths. With paths and complex aquatic habitats, you move the terrain or paths just once the entire game has a stroke and dies.

Now these wonderful youtubers (which I do watch) either have been blessed by frontier with a perfect building system or don't show half the 'behind the scenes' moments. With support it would be an absolute godsend and may actually make me willingly to build these really cool aquarium concepts.

I'm actually rooting for aviaries more since birds do end up in my zoos more often than aquariums, though either option I'll gladly support aswell.

 

[CharlieXGaming]

I'm actually rooting for aviaries more since birds do end up in my zoos more often than aquariums, though either option I'll gladly support aswell

Agreed, I want birds way more than Aquatics, I'll be happy with either, both would bring a new way to build, but in terms of realism I think birds are a bit more important.

 

[NZFanatic]

I've never seen aquatics as being necessary at all. Yeah, some of the big major zoos include aquaria, but I'd be willing to bet that the majority only contain some small fish displays if any at all.

 

[CharlieXGaming]

I wonder if they ever considered something like a "FreshWater Pack" a scenery pack that would have 4 generic habitat animals (first ones that come to mind are Roseate Spoonbill, Nile Crocodile, Lowland Anoa and Fishing Cat) and have it come with a bunch of small aquarium animals to put in the exhibits acting as tanks. Wouldnt require any new mechanics at all, just fill the entire exhibit with water and have fish swimming in it. We could also have things like Octopus, Eels, Jellyfish, just small marine animals. The packs scenery theme would be a combination of new glass and modern style stuff for building aquariums as well as new swamp and natural scenery. Would this be something people would look forward to?

 

[NZFanatic]

Would this be something people would look forward to?

My beef with the current exhibit system and fish is that the most interesting aquarium displays tend to feature multiple species. Aside from the butterflies, which all use the same base model and animations and are in the Walkthrough Exhibit, there's nothing like that in the game. It would be a bit naff to have separate boxes for clownfish, blue tangs, and so on, when in real life they are usually kept in big coral reef displays together.

Also, jellies can't be kept in normal aquaria. They require specialised tanks with continuously cycled water. I know this because I looked into keeping them at home for a while (still might, some day).

 

[Angeł]

I wonder if they ever considered something like a "FreshWater Pack" a scenery pack that would have 4 generic habitat animals (first ones that come to mind are Roseate Spoonbill, Nile Crocodile, Lowland Anoa and Fishing Cat) and have it come with a bunch of small aquarium animals to put in the exhibits acting as tanks. Wouldnt require any new mechanics at all, just fill the entire exhibit with water and have fish swimming in it. We could also have things like Octopus, Eels, Jellyfish, just small marine animals. The packs scenery theme would be a combination of new glass and modern style stuff for building aquariums as well as new swamp and natural scenery. Would this be something people would look forward to?

To be honest, any pack with the Roseate Spoonbill would be an instant buy for me. Any Florida/Central American wetlands birds (Roseate Spoonbill, Common Egret, American Flamingo etc) would be an immediate buy.
Additionally, if this pack came with some Amazonian fish like Red Bellied Piranha, this could become the ULTIMATE pack for me.

 

[Captain Callum]

first ones that come to mind are Roseate Spoonbill

You had me at spoonbill. Whatever else is a bonus, i just need a pink bird.

 

[CharlieXGaming]

To be honest, any pack with the Roseate Spoonbill would be an instant buy for me. Any Florida/Central American wetlands birds (Roseate Spoonbill, Common Egret, American Flamingo etc) would be an immediate buy.
Additionally, if this pack came with some Amazonian fish like Red Bellied Piranha, this could become the ULTIMATE pack for me.

Ooh I love piranhas! I forgot they existed lol

 

[CharlieXGaming]

My beef with the current exhibit system and fish is that the most interesting aquarium displays tend to feature multiple species. Aside from the butterflies, which all use the same base model and animations and are in the Walkthrough Exhibit, there's nothing like that in the game. It would be a bit naff to have separate boxes for clownfish, blue tangs, and so on, when in real life they are usually kept in big coral reef displays together.

Also, jellies can't be kept in normal aquaria. They require specialised tanks with continuously cycled water. I know this because I looked into keeping them at home for a while (still might, some day).

I mean if they did it with the butterflies I’m sure it wouldn’t be that big a deal to do it with fish. Add in bigger exhibit boxes and I’d imagine it would work wonders. Also this is a separate point, instead of buying fish one by one in the market they could have batches of 5 with the average statistics so instead of buying 1 at a time you could buy 5 at a time saving a lot more time and storage.

 

[CharlieXGaming]

You had me at spoonbill. Whatever else is a bonus, i just need a pink bird.

Flamingo: Am I joke to you?

 

[Angeł]

You had me at spoonbill. Whatever else is a bonus, i just need a pink bird.

I agree. More pink birds!!! Roseate Spoonbill, American Flamingo, Scarlet Ibis. Could make an AMAZING pink aviary with them, and they could all easily be implemented with current habitat mechanice.

 

[juice_box]

My beef with the current exhibit system and fish is that the most interesting aquarium displays tend to feature multiple species. Aside from the butterflies, which all use the same base model and animations and are in the Walkthrough Exhibit, there's nothing like that in the game. It would be a bit naff to have separate boxes for clownfish, blue tangs, and so on, when in real life they are usually kept in big coral reef displays together.

Aquatic exhibits would be really really cool. And if the size of the exhibit was more than 4×4 there would be more room for multiple fish species, with different sized fish models.

I would love SEPERATE jellyfish tanks. Realistic curved ones.

And I'd be VERY happy with exhibits with just one fish species. It's better than what we have now, which is nothing, and the current exhibits do not allow you to mix species anyway.

A lot of my favorite zoos, San Diego, Toronto, Los Angeles, all have fish and aquarium exhibits. They aren't huge, but they are necessary parts of all major world class zoos. And many aquariums, Monterey Bay, Vancouver, Okinawa have habitat animals like seals, sea lions, penguins etc.

I see those two things as intertwined.

Only small, low budget zoos in my experience don't have any fish at all.