Notice ARX and Frontier Points Conversion

Well, we saw at the end of Adam's session that he had earned 12 ARX, with a breakdown of how he earnt them. 9 from exploration, and 3 by other means

Based off what I estimate to be around of an hour of him being logged in to that account we can guess how much we can earn by playing the game

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So based on that, 1 hour earns you 12 Arx, 8 hours = 100 Arx, 32 hours per week = 400 Arx.
Playing 5 hours PER DAY will get you your maximum Arx.
 
I think it is fairly safe to say that to earn 400 a week you would have to spend far too long playing. Otherwise there are going to be loads of complaints from people who do spend all hours playing. But if you did put in the hours then you would still have to play for 2-5 weeks to buy a single paint-job. (Depending on how they judge the paint pack discount should be over the individual ones.) I think the safe option is going to be to assume that you pay for cosmetics, just like you do now, but can get a free one every few months. That's not so bad. And if you are grinding for something or maybe taking part in DW3, then it might be much faster.
No. The question was just "how exactly". How much would be the next question then...
The reason I ask is that I'm curious whether ARX will possibly add some new form of gameplay or if it's nothing but a marketing thing (which I suspect).
I already asked this in the FAQ
Will ARX be linked to certain ingame activities/achievements like e.g. certain amounts of credits gained or systems scanned (either by number or accumulated credits)? This almost sounds like a silly question, cause if the answer is no all what's left is the sheer ingame time that generates ARX. I really hope not as that would be the point where I'd seriously consider to uninstall.
and got this answer:
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We will release more information on how you can obtain Arx in-game closer to the release of the September Update.
How close do we need to come to get that answer?
 
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The desire to buy stuff abended. :(
It's been like that for me for the last 9 months. The quality of paint jobs has declined to a point where I feel no desire whatsoever to buy anything.
There was a time I used to buy paint jobs for ships I didn't even have because "this will look good on my ship one day"... But currently it's more like "there is no way I'm spending money on THAT".
 
Didn't they say anything about that new quality of paint jobs they've mentioned in some earlier announcement?
Was there anything substantial at all in this stream?
 
ARX will only be available in packs and then added to your account total. Once a purchase has been made, you can use the leftovers towards another purchase, or save them and wait for your earned ARX to top you up.

Why I will never buy skins again. Arx are just a scam to get you to pay for more than what you want. If I can't buy enough just the item I want, I won't buy any ever. It's a scam, don't fall for it people. Let Arx die.

If you think Arx are a good idea, I happen to be a Nigerian prince and I need your help...
 
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So Will earned 12 Arx on the livestream, 9 for 'Exploration' and 3 for 'Other'. Considering that Will spent a around 34 minutes in the pilot's seat (they re-log around the 9 minute mark, and log out around the 43 minute mark), we can assume that the Arx earned per hour for being somewhat active (there are periods where Will is talking to the camera rather than actually doing anything) will probably be around 20 Arx/hour, meaning 20 hours per week to reach the 400 Arx cap. Note that it will probably be possible to earn more Arx than this by actually playing the game without stopping to talk to the camera.

As for what the minimum Arx/hour would be for sitting AFK, if we assume that the 'Other' category is based entirely on time spent in game, we get a total of 5-6 Arx per hour for just being in the game. This means that the upper limit for the amount of time needed to reach the weekly 400 Arx cap would be around 70-80 hours, or about 10-12 hours every day sitting AFK. Again, it is important to note that it will be possible to improve your Arx per hour by actually playing the game.

On a side note, Will spent about 8 minutes of the livestream either sitting on the landing pad doing nothing or sitting in space not moving. With the entire time spent in the sidewinder coming to just under 34 minutes, we can assume that the amount of Arx earned on the livestream is only ~80% of what players would normally earn in the same period of time. If we take the new value (15 Arx for 34 minutes), the amount of Arx per hour increases to over 25 Arx per hour, meaning that the weekly Arx cap of 400 could be reached in 16 hours.
 
If ARX is the leveller?, I did a quick look comparing the value of GBP vs EUR vs USD. Found the results interesting. Is this ok or is there more to international currency variances than I realise.....

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If you think Arx are a good idea, I happen to be a Nigerian prince and I need your help...

Arx are a great idea for the Devs! :D

I would never have bought skins anyway, and I won't buy any Arx, but I look forward to racking 'em in and getting my nameplates for free... like they should have been already. :}
 
As for what the minimum Arx/hour would be for sitting AFK, if we assume that the 'Other' category is based entirely on time spent in game, we get a total of 5-6 Arx per hour for just being in the game. This means that the upper limit for the amount of time needed to reach the weekly 400 Arx cap would be around 70-80 hours, or about 10-12 hours every day sitting AFK. Again, it is important to note that it will be possible to improve your Arx per hour by actually playing the game.

On a side note, Will spent about 8 minutes of the livestream either sitting on the landing pad doing nothing or sitting in space not moving. With the entire time spent in the sidewinder coming to just under 34 minutes, we can assume that the amount of Arx earned on the livestream is only ~80% of what players would normally earn in the same period of time. If we take the new value (15 Arx for 34 minutes), the amount of Arx per hour increases to over 25 Arx per hour, meaning that the weekly Arx cap of 400 could be reached in 16 hours.
I based my calculations on him earning 12 Arx in 1 hour of streaming, meaning we'd have to play 32 hours per week.
Maybe idling on the pad pays less as opposed to being out in space. So that could also just mean someone buying a few big tanks and park their Anaconda outside all day while they are off to work. In Solo of course.
 
Went on a spending spree when I first started playing the game but haven't purchased a thing from the store since and don't intend to either so I'm really not that fussed how many ARX can be earned and what things cost in ARX, its essentially free money and every now and then I will use it but other than that meh. Having said that, the reveal video wasn't very revealing on the ARX
 
There will always be players who will try and game the system to maximize the bottom line. I am sure FD knows this also and has some type of requirements to earn arx beside just idling but if not then that means they are fine with it. I have been playing Elite for about 4 years and will probably earn more items in the next year then I have bought in the last 3 years. whatever and however I earn arx will all be a bonus for me as I have not earned any before the update lands.

If I passed out 5 dollar/pound/euros some people would complain that the person just before them got a new crisp one that didnt have any creases like the one they got.

Just sayin
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So here are a few things to think about for anyone who you are going to be able to buy £3.00 with worth of paints for 5000 arx:
1. The rate of arx to £ for the biggest package is £1 for 1700, which would mean £3 would be at least 5100 arx
2. The exchange rate from FP to arx is 1:20. In the xbox store 1 FP = £0.01, which gives the figure of £3 = 6000 arx
3. Ask yourself why would Fdev give console players free arx if the value of arx was going to be anything more than £0.01 per 20.
4. "But that would mean all prices in the store would rise by about 20%!!!" Yes it does. If you think fdev wouldn't do this, well they've been charging console players more via FP for forever. While you can only buy £1.00 of paints for 100 frontier points, you can only buy frontier points at 2500 for £30.00 at the best pricing. And remember the point of arx is to make consoles and PC equal.
 
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