COMPLETED CG Caine Massey Mining Initiative

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Seeing as you would have earned more in a single metallic hotspot yes as the fade off in hot spots were reset in june 2020 this made over laps worse...

Well dang. Thank you for sharing that with me. I'll adjust accordingly.

I'd been out of the mining loops for a long time and hoped VicTic's PSA: The current state of mining was enough to get me rolling again.
I really do appreciate the tier list.

o7
 
@Bruce G @Zac Cocken @Zac Antonaci does this system have a station or planets?

i look up on odyitty yesterday all i can see is a sun and 8 player carriers.

ok, it fixed itself now!
 
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Total MISINFORMATION here in this CG!!!.
I've been doing my usual mining for Plat and Osmium in Pristine METALLIC (Harma A 7) and get tons and tons (up to 66% per rock) of Sam and Gall as a side benefit (just un Ignored them).
I thought I would try a Pristine METAL RICH ring in Harma A 2 to get just the Sam and Gall for this CG as suggested in OP#1 and it is total rubbish!.
The CG description is pointing everyone to Pristine Metal Rich rings for Sam and Gall, but I think this is wrong. What do you think?

Maybe this is a reason contributions to both of these CG's are so low?
 
Total MISINFORMATION here in this CG!!!.
I've been doing my usual mining for Plat and Osmium in Pristine METALLIC (Harma A 7) and get tons and tons (up to 66% per rock) of Sam and Gall as a side benefit (just un Ignored them).
I thought I would try a Pristine METAL RICH ring in Harma A 2 to get just the Sam and Gall for this CG as suggested in OP#1 and it is total rubbish!.
The CG description is pointing everyone to Pristine Metal Rich rings for Sam and Gall, but I think this is wrong. What do you think?

Maybe this is a reason contributions to both of these CG's are so low?

Nah, the contributions are low because people usually hate mining.
And it was even more hated, if possible, when it was the main source of big credits.
 
Total MISINFORMATION here in this CG!!!.
I've been doing my usual mining for Plat and Osmium in Pristine METALLIC (Harma A 7) and get tons and tons (up to 66% per rock) of Sam and Gall as a side benefit (just un Ignored them).
I thought I would try a Pristine METAL RICH ring in Harma A 2 to get just the Sam and Gall for this CG as suggested in OP#1 and it is total rubbish!.
The CG description is pointing everyone to Pristine Metal Rich rings for Sam and Gall, but I think this is wrong. What do you think?

Maybe this is a reason contributions to both of these CG's are so low?
You need to reference "Time" Not just percentage... how long is your session time... you only do metallic if you want money over units for the CG...
https://fankserver.gitlab.io/elite-dangerous/mining-analyser/ if you don't know the timescale...
Login with the capi access (big PlayStation button) then screen grab..
Bung up a result JPEG picture, it includes time frame on the graph scale...
 
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@GraphiteGB
Single hot spot centre gives greater return than traveling to the edge to get into an over lap any way... you need 3 over laps to be better than a single hotspot centre...

Order of collection rate worst first..
  • Double over lap (weakened due to distance from the centre drop off and reset in 2020)
  • Single hot spot (Boosted in 2020)
  • Triple over lap (boosted by the third corrects for the distance drop in generation )
  • Haz res mining in hotspot ( boosted due to the haz res effect every rock contains more chunks than those above )
  • Mapped mining fastest CPH

May I ask a hotspot question please?

So I made a night out of it trying new mining methods in a haz RES and with a map, both were great for more focused gameplay and I'll probably do more of each. In the end I dropped into a single brom hotspot for something more relaxed but felt the returns were not going as well as the sam and gall I got out of the double plat. (I didn't run the analyzer so not focusing and not worried about the numbers)

When laser mining in a single hotspot with no RES does distance from centre matter? Is 800 clicks out but still in the bright yellow the same as 20 clicks out? I know in RES you want to float 15-20 clicks out.. but how far can you go in a single hotspot and not see a production drop?

(thanks if you know, I just can't find a clear answer in older posts, but see lots of videos where the miner will drop in a couple hundred clicks out and work towards centre)
 
When laser mining in a single hotspot with no RES does distance from centre matter? Is 800 clicks out but still in the bright yellow the same as 20 clicks out? I know in RES you want to float 15-20 clicks out.. but how far can you go in a single hotspot and not see a production drop?
Any distance from centre matters but its not linear... The script of generation is not Linear. you can get LOW generation for 8000KM towards the planet direction from hotspot but then get high generation for 100KM direct away from the planet line but the MAX possible generation % will be maxed untill you get a lot greater than 800KM...
All directions away from the hotspot are not equal…

You only float 15-20KM area in res to reduce pirate attacks. In high or lower res sites you can ignore the min distance an only keep the max and hope the AI Tackle the pirate or boost away or kill them...
 
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well that was a feast of waste of time, mined a hot spot 13t. in the end i just forgot about bitterwood and went to the main station.and sold it there.
 
I thought I would try a Pristine METAL RICH ring in Harma A 2 to get just the Sam and Gall for this CG as suggested in OP#1 and it is total rubbish!.
The CG description is pointing everyone to Pristine Metal Rich rings for Sam and Gall, but I think this is wrong. What do you think
Give it a try, I have been mining in a Notspot in a pristine metallic ring and collecting Plat, Plad, Pain and Os as well as Sam and Gall with one of my old T9's, by staying out of the hotspots and ignoring any rock that has not got either Sam or Gall in it I have been getting over 50% Sam and Gall in my total load. I am mining from a carrier.
 
When laser mining in a single hotspot with no RES does distance from centre matter? Is 800 clicks out but still in the bright yellow the same as 20 clicks out? I know in RES you want to float 15-20 clicks out.. but how far can you go in a single hotspot and not see a production drop?
After last year's mining adjustments, hotspot yields are strongly concentrated toward the center. There's no set distance because it scales with the size of the hotspot though. For maximum yield, I would recommend staying no more than one third of the hotspot radius away from the center. So if you are in a big hotspot that is 60000 km across, that's 30000 km radius, so stay within 10000 km of the center. Hotspots are quite large - even the smallest ones will give you a good mining area much much larger than the 20 km radius of a RES site.
 
Give it a try, I have been mining in a Notspot in a pristine metallic ring and collecting Plat, Plad, Pain and Os as well as Sam and Gall with one of my old T9's, by staying out of the hotspots and ignoring any rock that has not got either Sam or Gall in it I have been getting over 50% Sam and Gall in my total load. I am mining from a carrier.
Exactly what I'm doing but with a smaller 256T Mining Anaconda for 1 hour full cargo + 10T in Refinery, if lucky, with same material collections as that.
1 hour mining is enough and then unload in my nearby carrier, take a break then try again later. 750T mining would fry my brain.
I am getting anywhere between 60-120T CG (Gall/Sam) material each 1 hr run.
 
After last year's mining adjustments, hotspot yields are strongly concentrated toward the center. There's no set distance because it scales with the size of the hotspot though. For maximum yield, I would recommend staying no more than one third of the hotspot radius away from the center. So if you are in a big hotspot that is 60000 km across, that's 30000 km radius, so stay within 10000 km of the center. Hotspots are quite large - even the smallest ones will give you a good mining area much much larger than the 20 km radius of a RES site.
I've tried both, as close as possible 20km and out as far as 1700km and both gave same return to me in 1 hr runs.
Couldn't see any difference, still get some 66% High rocks.
 
I don't know about everyone else, but this has been a real fun CG for me. I love to mine, and do it quite frequently. They made it easy. I like to mine Platinum a lot. 2 of the 3 items they want, show up in Platinum hot spots, so, I just mined as I always do, but, instead of adding Gallite and Samarium to my market for selling/disposal, I saved and dropped off 1500 tons a day ago.

I hope everyone is enjoying this CG!
 
Exactly what I'm doing but with a smaller 256T Mining Anaconda for 1 hour full cargo + 10T in Refinery, if lucky, with same material collections as that.
1 hour mining is enough and then unload in my nearby carrier, take a break then try again later. 750T mining would fry my brain.
I am getting anywhere between 60-120T CG (Gall/Sam) material each 1 hr run.
512t, 3 x 2A mining lasers and 15 collectors, it can mine at a fast rate:)
 
I've tried both, as close as possible 20km and out as far as 1700km and both gave same return to me in 1 hr runs.
Couldn't see any difference, still get some 66% High rocks.
Like I said above, the raw distances don't tell us anything, hotspot yield falloff is relative to the size of the hotspot. Was that 1700 km from the center of a 2000 km radius hotspot, or 20000 km?
 
Looks like FC's who have been mining and storing (like me) have arrived and are just unloading heh heh heh.
Earlier posts said it was not worth it for FC's in this CG but I did exactly that and saved on mining/haulier jumps and did all my unloading in 2 x 752T T9 from FC.
Many hauliers will be knocked out of top 10% in next few hours I suspect (maybe including me as I'm not interested any longer).
G'wan man, push for T3!!! Only 9 hours left!!!
 
Looks like FC's who have been mining and storing (like me) have arrived and are just unloading heh heh heh.
Earlier posts said it was not worth it for FC's in this CG but I did exactly that and saved on mining/haulier jumps and did all my unloading in 2 x 752T T9 from FC.
Many hauliers will be knocked out of top 10% in next few hours I suspect (maybe including me as I'm not interested any longer).
G'wan man, push for T3!!! Only 9 hours left!!!
Your going to have to deliver more than 2 T9s to knock out the feds side 10% Even the public annonuced ones have done >2000 tons...
At least 3 T9s... and there are over 130 in that 10% tier
 
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Looks like everyone just "dumped their load" ;)
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