Calling on the community to play in Open Play

OP - make a poll.

Open play - solo and private group should have no influence towards open play economy and politics. but open play has influence towards solo/private.
 
If you want a lot of PvP you need a game with a smaller play area than this game has.

There is no getting away from that, it is not just the issue of solo, it is also the issue of the size of the play area.
 
If you want a lot of PvP you need a game with a smaller play area than this game has. There is no getting away from that, it is not just the issue of solo, it is also the issue of the size of the play area.
I think the size of the play area makes this IDEAL for a pvp game. It means you can hide, you can avoid it, you can try to figure out where to find victims etc. The problem is the implementation of it. its basically a 1-1 for interdictions. If you could hire escorts and the like, this would be a fantastic pvp environment.
 
No, no and no again... Will spend all of my elite career in solo unless there is a very compelling reason to do otherwise. Because i can. I choose to live quietly by myself in the country, not on an estate. To be honest, i dont have the slightest desire to share my pixels with some of the folks that post in this forum...
 
Open play or not at all for me. I've been in solo once because some twit was hogging the only large dock at a small mining station and I had a mission to hand in.

Stop hiding in solo and group, come out and play.
 
Stop hiding in solo and group, come out and play.
There are actually enough players in Open if you configure your router properly :) I see at least one player ship in ever 2nd or 3rd system and that is when I jump across large distances without stopping for long. So, chances are they are hiding behind your bugged router if you don't see then :) Now, grouping up is a non-existent concept in ED. not sure what you are talking about
 
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Robert Maynard

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You know, this is a really good point. Why isn't there such a group? I think a giant PVP group would be what they want, more people with like minded ideas what fun is for them.

Start the group. Then invite everybody to come to it.

It would seem, from previous attempts to do this, that the PvP available in such a group would be a wee bit too consensual.
 
Personally I do not intend to play in open until the ability to work with groups of friends is fully developed. Otherwise what would the point be? Right now its 100% solo play for me.
 
The OP in looking for victims, he's bored.

You'll never see as many players in Open, even if they do force everyone into open online, the galaxy is so big, people will be spread out far and wide. Also, instances can only have up to 32 players, If you get a10th of that, you'll be lucky.

For one its a she, and two I'm rated as Harmless, but then this post is clearly trolling as the update clearly makes an attempt at discussing the risks in open play - so I'll leave it there.

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I've seen 3 or four players in the last 1-2 weeks. Nobody attacked me. The galaxy is a big place.

I second this, it is not as some people claim it is in my experience, all my threats and attacks have been from NPC's

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I went to this buffet the other night you know. Low and behold they were serving stake and it was awesome. However, they were also serving shrimp there as well. Now I dont mind if these people want to eat shrimp, but the manager needs to listen to me because I like steak and if these people want to eat shrimp then they should just go somewhere else, and to accomplish this I am going to try and convince the manager to stop serving shrimp. This having been said if these people want to continue eating at this particular buffet, then they can learn to eat only steak. I don't how much they like what other things the manager does, but they cant be allowed to eat shrimp at this buffet anymore. I am sick and tired of there not being enough steak eaters in the buffet. I don't have enough people to talk about steak and stuff with.

It's a terrible analogy and completely not what this thread is supposed to be about, its more akin to asking what needs to be fixed with the steak for those who are staying away from the steak for a reason.
 
My my, such a hullabaloo! Long time EVE player here so I know all about griefing, ganking, piracy and trading from both sides of the coin. I also clocked up countless hundreds of hours on Frontier on the Amiga back in the day so I know full well the joys of immersive solo play. To the players worried about "ganking" or "griefing" in ED I say this. Elite Dangerous in open play is probably the safest I've ever felt in any freeform open world online game that can potentially involve player versus player combat. I play in Open all the time (since Beta) unless the servers are being particularly laggy and I have yet to be killed by another player. I've seen loads of other players about and I've had a few "greetings commander" messages pop up but I've only been interdicted 3 times (by the same guy in the same system) and running away was so easy it made a complete mockery of his attempt to kill me. Yes I did incurr some repair costs, but hey, space is a dangerous place, even without other players and I've spent far more on repair bills after fuel scooping or going to FSD too soon after jumping before allowing enough time for my ship to cool down than I've ever spent on interdiction repairs. To the guys craving PvP I will say this. It's not happening in any serious measure in this game in it's current form unless it's pre-arranged, consensual "good fights" because the galaxy is just way too big and the player base way too small (by comparison). Trying to convince people who are not interested in online play to play online is a waste of your time, their time, electricity and storage space on the forum.

With regard to the optional solo play vs open, the removal of either of these options would never be a good thing for anybody involved with the game at all. If you remove solo play, the hardcore solo players will desert, if you remove open play, the hardcore online players will desert, who wins? Nobody. Removing choice is never a good thing anyway. Personally, I would be happy if I could choose between open or solo play, as it is now, or a completely offline mode with separate local saves. At least that way I wouldn't have to deal with being kicked by the transaction server every 3 smegging jumps or so for smegs smegging sake!

I think the best thing that could happen right now is for everyone to just relax, play the game your own way, love it for the thing of beauty that it undoubtedly is (when it works) and wait and see what FD come up with in future releases.

Fly safe o/
 

Robert Maynard

Volunteer Moderator
It's a terrible analogy and completely not what this thread is supposed to be about, its more akin to asking what needs to be fixed with the steak for those who are staying away from the steak for a reason.

Not really - some people just don't like steak - no matter how well it is presented.
 

Snakebite

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You know, this is a really good point. Why isn't there such a group? I think a giant PVP group would be what they want, more people with like minded ideas what fun is for them.

Start the group. Then invite everybody to come to it.

umm there is already a multiplayer group, its called 'open'.... A dedicated private group would seem pointless to me.... We just need more peeps in the open group
 
It's a terrible analogy and completely not what this thread is supposed to be about, its more akin to asking what needs to be fixed with the steak for those who are staying away from the steak for a reason.

Sounds like you're trying to get vegans to eat the steak. Doesn't matter how you fix it, or how prime it is, some people aren't going to touch it.
 
umm there is already a multiplayer group, its called 'open'.... A dedicated private group would seem pointless to me.... We just need more peeps in the open group

Plenty of people in Open, and it is a multiplayer group, its just not suited to PvP. Its full of liars, cheats, weasels, traders, mercenaries, pirates, bounty hunters, soldiers, traitors, benefactors, guardians and heroes. And spread very thin. Not at all a satisfying environment for honorable PvP - its certainly a valid choice, just don't expect it to be 'fair' (even slightly).
 
For one its a she, and two I'm rated as Harmless, but then this post is clearly trolling as the update clearly makes an attempt at discussing the risks in open play - so I'll leave it there.

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I second this, it is not as some people claim it is in my experience, all my threats and attacks have been from NPC's

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It's a terrible analogy and completely not what this thread is supposed to be about, its more akin to asking what needs to be fixed with the steak for those who are staying away from the steak for a reason.

No, it is a perfectly fine analogy. Why? because there are some who dont eat steak at all. The system in place now is fine. As it serves everyone. I don't play MMOs at all because I deal with people all the time. Whether it is PvP or PvE, when I am playing a game I don't want to see another human being unless I have specifically invited them. I dont care if all they are doing is mining.

Besides, everyone who is playing in Solo play mode, probably wouldn't be playing the game period if it was not available. So those player wouldn't be in the game anyways. On that note, FD would lose a lot of business if they tried forcing everyone to play open.
 
No, it is a perfectly fine analogy. Why? because there are some who dont eat steak at all. The system in place now is fine. As it serves everyone. I don't play MMOs at all because I deal with people all the time. Whether it is PvP or PvE, when I am playing a game I don't want to see another human being unless I have specifically invited them. I dont care if all they are doing is mining.

Besides, everyone who is playing in Solo play mode, probably wouldn't be playing the game period if it was not available. So those player wouldn't be in the game anyways. On that note, FD would lose a lot of business if they tried forcing everyone to play open.

I've tried to summarise the thread in the OP, and as I have said repeatedly, this is not about getting people who wanted a solo game in the open play, its about addressing the issues that those who like the concept of open play but have issues with the reality, nobody said anything about forcing people into open play
 
A big selling point in Elite is the ability to play in a real dynamic universe with other human players, much of the criticism comes from not enough contact with a vibrant MMO community, and it seems increasing numbers of players are now playing in Solo mode.

I'm calling on players to play in open play so we can have participation in a dynamic universe, rather than spend most of our time dealing with NPC's, we have a role to play in making the game environment more dynamic and exciting and currently we are not doing it.

In a word, no. I didn't back this game to play with randoms. I backed this game to play by myself and with RL friends. You're not one of them.

Sorry, but I'm not here to be your dynamic content.
 
To the OP.

Stop telling other people how to play their game.

What makes you think you know what others want. I can tell you that you have no idea what I want.

How about using the in my opinion option instead of the should option.

The game will not change because you have said it should.

Get over it. If you don't like it the way it is you know what to do.
 
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