PvP Calling out all PvPers!

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we could petition a few permit locked systems where no engineered hardware is permitted. the luddite cluster. or sprinkled across the bubble. damn, even one single system would be a nice gesture, having a gathering place would help this type of gameplay tremendously.
Do they have no engineered hardware systems?
Because if they don't, this is really an interesting idea.

As a new player it is difficult for me to measure progress because the PKs always have 100 million credit ships.
Battles with unengineered ships would be a nice introduction to the PvP environment.
 
Do they have no engineered hardware systems?
Because if they don't, this is really an interesting idea.

As a new player it is difficult for me to measure progress because the PKs always have 100 million credit ships.
Battles with unengineered ships would be a nice introduction to the PvP environment.


A few points.

Small ship and un-engineered PVP is not a novel concept.
It also misses the point entirely.

A PVP FDL is more like 200 million.
 
depends on the armour
a shield and scb tank fdl is also available < 100 mil and has 95% of the combat power of a 200 mil fdl.
only slight less more hull when shields have dropped.
 
Brilliant idea to utilize a CZ for PvP to mark friends and foes.

OP, I think what you need to do is set up a Discord specifically for this sort of thing, find your moderators, and use the forums here to direct people to the discord. The discord can be used for real time announcements, and even could have divided private topics for the different factions to keep communications secret. It will be easier to organize this way instead of trying to do it directly on the forums.
 
Commander Ryan,

Although I very much applaud your skill and devotion to PvP, I hardly think that posting a video of your obliterating an opponent does much to build consensus and respect within the entire Elite Dangerous Community.

The question is: do PvPers love PvP enough to forego such expressions? Greatness never ever has to defend itself or speak for itself.

o7

btw, I am going to build your beam and rail FDL build, which CMDR duc_mallard was so kind to link in GCI. I am hoping the beam will provide an extra point of reference for watching the ship's attitude as well as for aiming the rails at which I suck at. It will be named "Fluffybunny Ryan" ( All my ships' names start with Fluffybunny. ) Thank you.
 

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I think you may be reading into my post a bit more than you need to. I posted the video because I haven't seen OP since my posted encounter with him and I genuinely wondered whether he was still playing the game. Glad to see that he is.

That being said, PvP in Elite is dead and has been for some time. The PvP community has never been smaller than it is right now and it's only shrinking with FDev continually ignoring PvP for the better part of 5 years now.
 
I think you may be reading into my post a bit more than you need to. I posted the video because I haven't seen OP since my posted encounter with him and I genuinely wondered whether he was still playing the game. Glad to see that he is.

That being said, PvP in Elite is dead and has been for some time. The PvP community has never been smaller than it is right now and it's only shrinking with FDev continually ignoring PvP for the better part of 5 years now.

Happy the PvP!
 
Commander Ryan,

Although I very much applaud your skill and devotion to PvP, I hardly think that posting a video of your obliterating an opponent does much to build consensus and respect within the entire Elite Dangerous Community.

The question is: do PvPers love PvP enough to forego such expressions? Greatness never ever has to defend itself or speak for itself.

o7

btw, I am going to build your beam and rail FDL build, which CMDR duc_mallard was so kind to link in GCI. I am hoping the beam will provide an extra point of reference for watching the ship's attitude as well as for aiming the rails at which I suck at. It will be named "Fluffybunny Ryan" ( All my ships' names start with Fluffybunny. ) Thank you.


He was interdicted.
 
He was interdicted.
Indeed he was. But Ryan made the choice to post the video when he could have refrained. Ryan could probably obliterate, in just a stock Hauler, most of we Commanders playing ED. I just feel perhaps, that it would have been more noble to not post the video. Maybe I should have kept my mouth shut, but I am tired of seeing PvP bashed for the wrong reasons.

It seems to me that the reputation of PVP being a gankfest is only furthered by videos of ships being blown up. Non PvPers desperately need to learn that PvP is an art form and not just blowing up ships and chasing the latest meta.

o7
 
Indeed he was. But Ryan made the choice to post the video when he could have refrained. Ryan could probably obliterate, in just a stock Hauler, most of we Commanders playing ED. I just feel perhaps, that it would have been more noble to not post the video. Maybe I should have kept my mouth shut, but I am tired of seeing PvP bashed for the wrong reasons.

It seems to me that the reputation of PVP being a gankfest is only furthered by videos of ships being blown up. Non PvPers desperately need to learn that PvP is an art form and not just blowing up ships and chasing the latest meta.

o7


Lol, OP started the fight.
Ryan was the "victim".

I think you are victim shaming!

LOL
 
That being said, PvP in Elite is dead and has been for some time. The PvP community has never been smaller than it is right now and it's only shrinking with FDev continually ignoring PvP for the better part of 5 years now.

PvP may be dead for those of you at the top of the heap and to those of you who have mastered the flight model, but for me it's just beginning. The magnificence of the flight model will always attract new Commanders.

Frankly, I think that PvP needs to go retro and revisit flying and fighting in non engineered ships. Not only will PvP be more accessible to those who don't have time to engineer, but it will make manifest how much engineering has dumbed down flying to a certain extent, i.e. pip management and relying exclusively on boost to maneuver.

o7
 
I think you may be reading into my post a bit more than you need to. I posted the video because I haven't seen OP since my posted encounter with him and I genuinely wondered whether he was still playing the game. Glad to see that he is.

That being said, PvP in Elite is dead and has been for some time. The PvP community has never been smaller than it is right now and it's only shrinking with FDev continually ignoring PvP for the better part of 5 years now.
Well according to the OP you're just a ganker and you have no clue what actual PvP is.

On a side note, PvP is still hoppin on xbox. There's events being organized almost every month and lots of wars between squadrons going on almost daily. There's also new squadron that just started up called ganc that has been so toxic to everyone that "good guy" and "bad guy" squadrons are teaming for the first time just to feed these guys as many rebuys as possible.
It's been pretty epic.
 
Man this forum is a dumpster fire. Always boils down to non-PvPers spouting paragraphs of drivel, thinking they're subject matter experts.

OP also says people are completely free to blaze whatever trail they want, but also says that anyone who ganks in a sandbox game can't also be a valid PvPer. Reality is that it's the only PvP content after a certain point.
 
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