I beg to differ. Just need to use the right ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6meySaFUPo&list=PLfKwXAFHm6fKVxBP0bCUab5C7qsedycoz&index=30&t=0s
PvP Calling out all PvPers!
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I beg to differ. Just need to use the right ones.
I have no clue what the PvP landscape looks like on PC but me thinks you're over exaggerating quite a bit.
Man this forum is a dumpster fire. Always boils down to PvPers spouting paragraphs of drivel, thinking they're subject matter experts.
Rinzler o7o7o7
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They are, because all they do is PvP. Duh.
Don't forget he's also extremely awesome so a lot of what we say doesn't matter.
Pvpers being experts on PvP? Uh yeah, duh.
If they say "the pen is mightier then the sword" do they mean superpenetrator rails?
Bob Lighthouse
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No, they're not. FD are experts. You're just rabbits they experiment on.
I suddenly remembered my Charlemagne.
Have you ever seen FDev do combat in this game? FDev are not experts. I'm not sure there's a staff member at FDev that could beat even a mid-tier PvPer.
Ryan, I am sorry if your video is the sacrificial lamb illustrating my belief that PvP would be much better served if videos of ships being blown up were not so prevalent or so frequently used to make a point. I had to start somewhere and unfortunately it was you.
The videos that really need to be posted here, especially in Forums, are fights between similarly skilled pilots followed by a written evaluation by a master such as Yamato. When I first read an evaluation by Yamato, my jaw dropped, I had no clue what it takes to PvP well. It's amazing to learn how intricate and detailed flying can be. And very inspiring. I want to fly like that, too!
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The videos that really need to be posted here, especially in Forums, are fights between similarly skilled pilots followed by a written evaluation by a master such as Yamato. When I first read an evaluation by Yamato, my jaw dropped, I had no clue what it takes to PvP well. It's amazing to learn how intricate and detailed flying can be. And very inspiring. I want to fly like that, too!
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That's not their place, developers are there to create and polish the code, not play. If devs would play, instead of work, the game would be crap. Players, luckily, are there to experiment upon. Some even become expert specimens, from which devs can derive correct conclusions and implement changes to the code.
I have done my utmost to take every player that I come across, that has a positive attitude, under my wing and teach them all I can about PvP and I know most other pvpers do the same. The problem with this forum is that this is where most of the bad apples, players with bad attitudes and players that take an in-game death too seriously, come to cry and complain.
A recent thread in the general discussion section about playing by yourself or socially, proves a theory I had, that the vast majority of the people you see on this forum complaining about gankers, PvP, open mode and just don't understand how it works, are players that play alone and don't enjoy playing with other people to begin with. These people won't take advice from other players because they want to do things their way.
FWIW, if anyone cares, not everyone wants to be a master PvPer. I love playing Overwatch, but I have no interest in joining a professional league, as that's too intense for me. It's similar to a bunch of old guys playing hoops - we're just having fun, not auditioning for the Harlem Globetrotters. Same goes for ED PvP. That's where OP might have something to offer folks like me.
Now I understand ED is currently a game where we're all mixed in together, and this is why I don't complain about personally getting ganked / griefed anymore (happened today, cost me a bit, but I thought "Okay, that's cool."), but I really have not interest in "gitting gud" enough to fight back. As I said before, I'm the Forrest Gump PvPer. However, I do enjoy casual combat, meaning modest ships with modest engineering in equal-sized teams. This perhaps is what the OP offers, albeit in a flamboyant way, and I support his efforts.
Now I understand ED is currently a game where we're all mixed in together, and this is why I don't complain about personally getting ganked / griefed anymore (happened today, cost me a bit, but I thought "Okay, that's cool."), but I really have not interest in "gitting gud" enough to fight back. As I said before, I'm the Forrest Gump PvPer. However, I do enjoy casual combat, meaning modest ships with modest engineering in equal-sized teams. This perhaps is what the OP offers, albeit in a flamboyant way, and I support his efforts.
Personally I think the OP would be the absolute worst person to organize anything PvP related because of his attitude towards "bad guy" pvpers and the fact that he probably has half of the PvP community on his block list.
But on Xbox, CKnarf puts together an event called H.A.A.A.N.D.S. every Thursday evening, where players come together with unengineered, small ships for a night of PvP in equal ships. And at H.A.A.A.N.D.S. EVERYONE IS WELCOME instead of just certain players with a certain play style.
Unfortunately you're on PS4 IIRC, but I'm sure someone could put something similar together if there was enough support for it and the right person to organize it.
Hear, hear. Although Gaarp's ideas may not be feasible or even reasonable for that matter, he made an effort. An action. He tried.
PVP is not dead. It may be at a minimum, but not dead. If it was so great prior to 2.1 or whatever, why not try to recreate as many of those mechanisms that we can? It won't be perfect, but I am sure it would be far more balanced than what we now have in *** engineers.
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That's so awesome about CKnarf. PC needs that, too.
Even though I am one of those that enjoys engineering, I can see that it is mostly to blame for the lack of players interested in PvP.
Of the dozen or so padawans that I have taken under my wing over the past year, more than half of them eventually gave up because of the grind to unlock all the engineers that are pretty much required to be competitive in PvP.
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