I agree here also. I definitely saw Beyond update as a buy off to wait for content we are ALL still waiting for. That Beyond update still has content outstanding including the knocked back Fleet Carriers. This is where everyone has trouble seeing FD point of view. Beyond was a system of measures to fix the bugs which they are now claiming as needing to be fixed again (fixed not even once) Quality of life (ha ha) In my opinion you cant use the same excuse twice & still expect the player base to either believe you or not get upset that your developers are seemingly undervaluing the product in lieu of the other games in it's stable. ED is being overtaken. No question about it. Even by much smaller development companies.
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Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Would you have been happier if they had introduced FCs, embedded in a swamp of even more, and potentially nastier, bugs? Please don't take this as an attempt to snipe at you (it is not!), I'm just pointing out that, when taking your stance, FD simply cannot win. Whatever they do, they'll disappoint.
As it is, it is FAR better to first fix as many issues as possible (and, thus, likely make sure that any problems with FCs won't be quite as severe (and aggravating) as they would otherwise be). The September update was a small sample of what we could have expected otherwise -- only writ much, much larger.
I do respect your opinion, it's just I think taking a more positive stance, and acknowledging FDev cares enough about their game to fix more bugs, is called for.
okay enough of this.. get the betas going, NOW.. you want to delay content and fix issues, for a SECOND year in a row.., okay, then quit farting around and let's get to work then..
things need to be sorted and fixed before we get content, so get to work.. i'm ready, where is my beta download?
CHOP CHOP Frontier, i've waited patiently for 2.. TWO ENTIRE YEARS for my carrier..
get to work, i'm logged in, ready to play the beta and report issues properly..
Get the lead out, release the first beta and let's fix this game if that is your plan, no more delays, you have no more excuses, launch the first beta you plan on rolling out if i can't have my carrier.. let's go, time's wasting, you've had 5 years to work on this title and fix things, and Elite has generated over 80 million pounds in revenue, you have the money, hire some people and let's go.
Now roll out the betas so we can help you, since apparently we must, we have no choice.. now get with the beta rollouts because i want my beta carrier so i can help you fix them. Beta.... NOW. Not in 3 or 4 months from now.. you've had enough time, you made enough money.
You will get NO more money from me until things are fixed and content rolls out, so let's go, I'm not waiting any further, no more patience, you spent it all with your disappointing "oh we're gonna fix stuff this year"... you didn't fix things this year, you broke things. Time to fix your studio and your game, David. Roll out the betas.
things need to be sorted and fixed before we get content, so get to work.. i'm ready, where is my beta download?
CHOP CHOP Frontier, i've waited patiently for 2.. TWO ENTIRE YEARS for my carrier..
get to work, i'm logged in, ready to play the beta and report issues properly..
Get the lead out, release the first beta and let's fix this game if that is your plan, no more delays, you have no more excuses, launch the first beta you plan on rolling out if i can't have my carrier.. let's go, time's wasting, you've had 5 years to work on this title and fix things, and Elite has generated over 80 million pounds in revenue, you have the money, hire some people and let's go.
Now roll out the betas so we can help you, since apparently we must, we have no choice.. now get with the beta rollouts because i want my beta carrier so i can help you fix them. Beta.... NOW. Not in 3 or 4 months from now.. you've had enough time, you made enough money.
You will get NO more money from me until things are fixed and content rolls out, so let's go, I'm not waiting any further, no more patience, you spent it all with your disappointing "oh we're gonna fix stuff this year"... you didn't fix things this year, you broke things. Time to fix your studio and your game, David. Roll out the betas.
Ahh... I missunderstood you then...
My guess is that as long as FDev can support both PS4 (current version) and also make a branch for PS5 specific features, I would assume that they would want to make the best possible experience on PS5. But yeah... FDev are the only ones that can answer that, obviously.
I just cannot wrap my head around the false dichotomy of either getting a) fleet carriers on time, or b) bug fixes. Even if carriers need a delay... why half a year? It is truly concerning that they cannot hit deadlines set by... themselves.
They need to find where the bottleneck in management is and sort it out fast. A delay of this scale shows that someone messed up really badly or cannot make reasonable predictions.
I think its really unfair to Will as well. They mess things up, and then he has to break the bad news.
At a minimum, I hope we get a solid dump of information for carriers or even next era soon. Seems like the least they could do. Even if it has the disclaimer that it is subject to change.
They need to find where the bottleneck in management is and sort it out fast. A delay of this scale shows that someone messed up really badly or cannot make reasonable predictions.
I think its really unfair to Will as well. They mess things up, and then he has to break the bad news.
At a minimum, I hope we get a solid dump of information for carriers or even next era soon. Seems like the least they could do. Even if it has the disclaimer that it is subject to change.
Way to miss the boat on that one.. But lets take your analysis a little further...
Elite is 5 years and still not finished. It's so bad now, the company feel it's last resort is to pull the most expected release this year, delayed once already, and now delayed yet again, because the bugs need addressing first.
So yeh, while the other game or whatever it is has not yet been released, what frontier has released so far is a bug ridden mess. Remind me again how much frontier made last years in sales of this mess?
Well, they already mentioned that they will not talk about "the new era" until Summer 2020. That said, a live stream where they showcase some work in progress / ideas regarding Fleet Carriers would be a sign of goodwill at least, even if, as you say, it is subject to change.
Just more time for me to finish my lap around the galaxy, more time for everyone else to sock away credits, and that's just fine. We've lived this long without Carriers, we'll make it a bit longer, and if they do indeed follow through with this plan, including beta tests for each chunk of release, with bug fixes too, we all win in the end.
Be sure to leave your stuff in my bin on your way out.
Perhaps adding fleet carriers now is a bit like ...
As well as other reasons there's a certain amount of sense in making that tower a bit more stable before putting another piece on top?
It will be fine...Perhaps adding fleet carriers now is a bit like ...
As well as other reasons there's a certain amount of sense in making that tower a bit more stable before putting another piece on top?
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This bug ridden mess is actually FDEV's biggest selling game of all its franchises to date. Not too bad for a bug ridden mess.
A considerably LESS bug-ridden mess than SC, old boy. I won't deny there are issues, but if you really want to compare ED and SC, then we can only agree to disagree, as that is -- pardon my French -- absurd.
I didn't compare them, I replied to Viajero.
A pity to read that. One can only hope thst things been sorted out properly.
Taking a break is sometimes nessesary.
See you around, commander! o7
There is no denying that, and I never tried to. It's still a bug ridden mess. The recent announcement is testament to that fact!
And a small company like Frontier is bound to have 'one of their biggest selling titles'....
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