Hmm. Some examples elsewhere of HMCs going Extraction+Industrial dual influence on initial construction. Might be more to it than just planet type.
"Development Level >>"? Figuring out what all these numbers do.
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Without being able to delete this really isn't fair, we kinda need some way to see, maybe the interface when building a station or port should tell you what the positions econ influence is?
So you can see what the planet gives and even what you've built around it to, but I'd settle for just the planet.
Anyone got any tips on where they'd try to build a high-tech economy right now?
So you can see what the planet gives and even what you've built around it to, but I'd settle for just the planet.
Anyone got any tips on where they'd try to build a high-tech economy right now?
Atmosphere has an impact and there's a good chance that moons also impact the economy in a regional economy type situation. Do those HMCs have an icy body moon?
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Oh this is getting crazy complex!
Great thread, thanks to all who are contributing. Adding another data point with an Orbis I just completed:
4 (empty) planetary slots, 1 (empty) space slot
Station has UC, Shipyard with 26 ships (including all the new gen ships) and outfitting seems to have a lot of A rated modules (not sure if that is expected or what determines this?).
Prior to Thursday'syolo testing in production emergent gameplay, the plan was to put down refineries (testing as I go) and make this a high yield station to supply the rest of the system. I'll probably wait along with everyone else before doing more in the system.
4 (empty) planetary slots, 1 (empty) space slot
Station has UC, Shipyard with 26 ships (including all the new gen ships) and outfitting seems to have a lot of A rated modules (not sure if that is expected or what determines this?).
Prior to Thursday's
The case I cited in Synuefe NE-W b48-3, where a Coriolis orbiting an HMC (no atmo , no moons) has several peculiarities. For one, planet 1 (where the Coriolis orbits) is only 7 LS from the sun. Second, there are two asteroid belts in between the sun and planet 1 - all within 7 LS.
Thirdly, the system has 16 icy moons and 9 of them are only 942 LS from the sun. The 9 moons are also only 935 LS from planet 1.
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source: https://www.edsm.net/en/system/bodies/id/25528529/name/Synuefe+NE-W+b48-3
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I have no idea, I was surprised when they showed up because I haven't built anything on the planet.
That's going to be a genuine pain to nail down...
Would love some data on what rocky ice do in this new horrible system.
Yes, and it's going to be embarrassing to ask the guy to build another station on one of the other HMC worlds, planet 2, which is just 5 LS from planet 1 to see if the strong extraction & industrial influence can be reproduced.
Both HMCs are landable and no atmo. Though it doesn't have to be a Coriolis, it could just be a commercial outpost instead - the effect would be the same. It may be the only way to pin it down
Alright, just finished a coriolis over an HMC with thin co2 atmo and 8.4% phosphorous content, then got 115 % extraction economy, no agri influence.
if anyone wants to check it out, its over planet 2 at Coalsack Sector JH-V c2-20
So for agri we can determine that theres absolutely 100% more than simply having an atmo.
8.4% phosphorous is probably too low.
Also noticed that theres an pretty low amount of carbon on this planet, 13.1% , if thats also a factor that may also be too low?
Oh well, going to start preparing my spreadsheet to analyze my market's growth as i begin to fill the slots below with ref hubs..... Eventually.... i do need a break from hauling, even if im right at the finish line of having my own refinery....
if anyone wants to check it out, its over planet 2 at Coalsack Sector JH-V c2-20
So for agri we can determine that theres absolutely 100% more than simply having an atmo.
8.4% phosphorous is probably too low.
Also noticed that theres an pretty low amount of carbon on this planet, 13.1% , if thats also a factor that may also be too low?
Oh well, going to start preparing my spreadsheet to analyze my market's growth as i begin to fill the slots below with ref hubs..... Eventually.... i do need a break from hauling, even if im right at the finish line of having my own refinery....
We came across a similar anomaly in Synuefe NE-W b48-3 planet 1 (HMC) where the Coriolis the architect built had a strong extraction (expected) and strong industrial (unexpected). It's very likely something else is at play here too.
Colonisation Economies - inconsistent with facilities constructed
I have been working in Synuefe NE-W B48-3 over the past week. I built a coriolis station in slot 0 over planet 1, intending to use the 4 surface slots to get it to produce metals. My understanding is that this will require primarily refinery hubs, but possibly an extraction settlement or two to...
The results are in
My old setup Coriolis over HMC/nitrogen 100% atmo
With 1x refinery hub was 50% colony 50% refinery
With new ruleset,2nd refinery built today, reseted economy to new rules
economy_Extraction;", "Name_Localised":"Extraction", "Proportion":1.150000 }, { "Name":"$economy_Agri;", "Name_Localised":"Agriculture", "Proportion":1.150000 }, { "Name":"$economy_Refinery;", "Name_Localised":"Refinery", "Proportion":0.900000
Markets are very good, I am very pleased with this:
Most minerals were eaten by 2x refinery
Some agri products were eaten by domestic consumption
All refinery products are available
It seems that no atmosphere = industrial pressure
and any atmosphere that consist of fertilizer materials = agri
My old setup Coriolis over HMC/nitrogen 100% atmo
With 1x refinery hub was 50% colony 50% refinery
With new ruleset,2nd refinery built today, reseted economy to new rules
economy_Extraction;", "Name_Localised":"Extraction", "Proportion":1.150000 }, { "Name":"$economy_Agri;", "Name_Localised":"Agriculture", "Proportion":1.150000 }, { "Name":"$economy_Refinery;", "Name_Localised":"Refinery", "Proportion":0.900000
Markets are very good, I am very pleased with this:
Most minerals were eaten by 2x refinery
Some agri products were eaten by domestic consumption
All refinery products are available
It seems that no atmosphere = industrial pressure
and any atmosphere that consist of fertilizer materials = agri
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Hmmm...that has to be corroborated by cases of icy planets with atmo. Because if that's true, icy planets with atmo that aren't fertilizer related should give purely industrial influence.
Ammonia, carbon dioxide and nitrogen are fertilizer related but are there others that should be in the list?
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We need an actual agricultural expert at this point...
Still looking...
Found the case again though where the landable icy planet atmo was neon. And it turns out, there are neon fertilisers.
"Development Level >>"? Figuring out what all these numbers do.
There could be some serious delay in propagating the effects of said assets. As I said earlier, 3 military settlements and an comm installation, totaling 13 security points, have had no change on my system security yet (still anarchy). PS: If the system security is Anarchy that implies you...
Ammonia
?Argon (used to create nitrogen fertilizers, does that qualify?)
Carbon dioxide
Neon
Nitrogen
Sulfur (present in atmo as sulfur dioxide)
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