Well i don't want to dissmiss you as a conspiracy theorist with out giving you a chance to prove your point. I posted a random screenshot earlier from that Odyssey Screenshot threat.
Can you spot repeating terrain textures in here?
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Can you spot repeating terrain textures in here?
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Well i don't want to dissmiss you as a conspiracy theorist with out giving you a chance to prove your point. I posted a random screenshot earlier from that Odyssey Screenshot threat.
Can you spot repeating terrain textures in here?
Do you honestly believe you'll be able to see the repeating terrain looking horizontally, from ground level?
Have you even read any of the threads discussing the issue?
New Planet Tech is KILLER of Exploration (all terrain is tiling/repeating/not procedural/random)
UPDATE: Planetary terrain prefabs are now also being discovered to be reused between planets: UPDATE: Looking at the high number of reported planets. I have gone ahead and created an issue tracker for this one. I urge everybody to go ahead and tick "can replicate" with as many examples as...
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OKey, same author 2 planet from far:
I only looked at them briefly and didn't spotted any repeatable terrain textures. How about you?
And yet I can see them straight away. The planet on the right very obviously at 2 o'clock and 4 o'clock. And if I was at that planet I'd give you a screenshot that shows them far more clearly, by moving to make them the same viewing angle. And note that the repeating terrain happens at all scales, right down to ground level, not just high orbit.
But here's a challenge I've given others that shoot their mouths off to say repeating terrain is not common:
Name any landable planet in the bubble you believe doesn't have repeating terrain. No images. NAME it by pasting the name here. Than I or anyone else can go there and check it ourselves.
I actually want you to find one that doesn't have repeating terrain. I'd have some hope for Odyssey then, for fellow explorers.
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I said the repeating terrain is obvious in the screenshot you gave. Do I really need to draw circles?
My challenge still stands. If you can't give the name of a landable planet in the bubble you believe has no repeating terrain, you're just shooting your mouth off. It should be easy for you to disprove my assertion. Just name one.
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You did NOT see repeating terrain patterns on the roof!
Well, at least I can ensure that I have no plans to abandon Inara (or Elite)...
I am no expert but if they do not or cannot fix the dlc on foot thargoids and interiors will never happen
I know, really. So clueless they give a ground level ss to try to disprove repeating terrain. I wouldn't normally waste my time on them but this guy keeps repeating (sic) this nonsense. Interestingly, I've noticed a pattern lately where a lot of new white knights have joined the forums just in the last few months. They're in multiple threads spouting rubbish.
so Fdev are lying about planetary tech not working as intended, nice!
What I find interesting is that you apparently had plans, timelines, and a further roadmap before we asked you to fix the game. Mind sharing with us what were they? The general sentiment is that ED is being abandoned. People have nothing to look forward to and many are looking elsewhere already (Steamcharts never lies). I believe sharing even just ideas would help keeping people interested and engaged in the game, at least temporarily. It's not like other companies are going to steal your ideas anyways.
@Arthur Tolmie @sallymorganmoore
I know you are busy but you should be aware that the bookmarking system is broken and it is a pain to use :
1) Bookmarks created from the Navigation Panel ALL get listed as Systems (even if it is bodies or even settlements that are bookmarked : https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/38797 and others
2) When bookmarks are added via the Galaxy or System map and have their names edited that new name is ignored ad the bookmark is saved with the original name : https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/39187 and others
I know these are not urgent but I am not sure that they are horribly complex either, and these little issue like this add to the pain.
I know you are busy but you should be aware that the bookmarking system is broken and it is a pain to use :
1) Bookmarks created from the Navigation Panel ALL get listed as Systems (even if it is bodies or even settlements that are bookmarked : https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/38797 and others
2) When bookmarks are added via the Galaxy or System map and have their names edited that new name is ignored ad the bookmark is saved with the original name : https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/39187 and others
I know these are not urgent but I am not sure that they are horribly complex either, and these little issue like this add to the pain.
Arrogant developers that think that know how to charge players for a product that isn't nearly finished...
The game will only have a future if FDev can convince us to accept Odyssey. By this i mean that :
- the console version can work properly on 360 and PS4, without that FDev will lose not only those players but also those with similar or slightly better PC specs
- the merge with Horizon satisfies PC players who would have liked to buy Odyssey but didn't or who prefer to run Horizon rather than Odyssey or just stop to play ED
It’s over. The so-called “New Era” was a flop. They’ve been stringing people along from Alpha test to release and now weeks later and 5 major patches the reality is setting in. The white knights can try as they will but everyone else can see the writing on the wall. There are fundamental problems in FD and this is not going to be fixed anytime soon. It is not just performance issues plaguing this DLC.
Having been around since 2014 I have witnessed all of the ups and downs of this franchise but I have never seen it bottom out like this. Not only are the forums negative this time but also the game reviews on gaming sites, their most devoted content creators are turning negative now or at the very least depressed over the state of the game and some are now hosting other space games and large community events are being cancelled. FD’s shares have taken a major hit, refunds are being demanded and FD are certainly hinting if not being open that they don’t have a handle on some of the major problems with the game. Horizons is being affected and the console release may be in jeopardy of another delay or worse. SC and NMS are getting loads of new players over this. I’d hate to be answering questions to the board right now because anyone who believes ED isn’t experiencing a mass exodus of players right now is deluding themselves. All you have to do is look at the charts and read the comments in the YouTube videos even if the content creator is staying positive their viewers are not.
It’s sad but totally self induced.
Having been around since 2014 I have witnessed all of the ups and downs of this franchise but I have never seen it bottom out like this. Not only are the forums negative this time but also the game reviews on gaming sites, their most devoted content creators are turning negative now or at the very least depressed over the state of the game and some are now hosting other space games and large community events are being cancelled. FD’s shares have taken a major hit, refunds are being demanded and FD are certainly hinting if not being open that they don’t have a handle on some of the major problems with the game. Horizons is being affected and the console release may be in jeopardy of another delay or worse. SC and NMS are getting loads of new players over this. I’d hate to be answering questions to the board right now because anyone who believes ED isn’t experiencing a mass exodus of players right now is deluding themselves. All you have to do is look at the charts and read the comments in the YouTube videos even if the content creator is staying positive their viewers are not.
It’s sad but totally self induced.
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Perfectly put, ever since Horizons stalled the entire game in prelude to the 'next big thing' and Beyond was the 'bug fix season' that it was supposed to be there hasnt been much happening in the universe of Elite, yeah we had the odd Thargoid issue and occasional incident with terrorists BUT nothing much has happened at all basically its like FDEV forgot to actually make a back story for the game and didnt attempt to put it in the game when they realised. It wasnt until they 'reactivated' Galnet that we realised there was supposed to be something going on in the game and then they released Odyssey to the masses as the 'thing they had been working on for years' and to be plainly honest it was released in Alpha state because they wanted to get the next big season out the door for the stockmarket jump they wanted. As flops go the only bigger ones were Cyberpunk 2077, NMS's first years (they have fixed it now to a playable state), and Windows Me (shudder). Cp2077 is also apparently fixed to a playable state and developers have stated they screwed up but FDEV seem adamant that the game is ok after just five lacklustre patches enough that they can leave it and go to console fixing. For me its like putting a bit of duct tape on a shed after its been run over by a tank and saying "there its perfect".
Just doesnt cut it really does it, if I was a shareholder I would be dumping those shares ASAP as quickly as possible and distance myself from this debacle as QUICKLY as possible.
I'm disappointed but more than that I'm just surprised. I always lauded them for their technical chops, but it seems in this case FD has bitten off more than they can chew. Every time I see one of these updates come out and core issues still are not resolved, such as the skybox gamma/lighting (which it now appears they have no intention of fixing) or the framerate issues ... it just makes me wonder that maybe this engine isn't up to the job. It feels very much like they've hit the limits of what their tech can do and now anything they try to fix one problem will be at the expense of something else. Just ... surprised. Not that it launched with problems, but that 5 updates later the problems aren't fixed and they're calling an end to the updates for the time being.
The problems are far too deep to be solved with a simple patch. That of the contrast, for example, requires reworking the pipelines in order to homogenize their rendering because, currently, they seem to perform their rendering each in their own way.
As for performance, the Xbox 360 and the PS4 run on mid-range HD7x00s dating from 2012. So the game is very far from the mark and it is not in a few days or weeks that FDev will be able to catch up.