DLC animal calculator

Just a quico fix, they do deserve 0 in biome, but because they share biome with the ibex, not snow leopard.

And I think their horns are impressive enough for a 2 but that's entorely subjective ofcourse.
I was actually not aware that there was an Ibex species in the Himalayas. I knew they were in Europe and Africa, but not this far into Asia...you learn something new every day.
Snow leopard was listed as one of the predators of Markhor on a couple zoo-type websites...I'm no expert, and it's really irrelevant for this conversation anyways lol.

I put their horns at a 1 because I thought it might just be me that finds them amazingly striking...I'll update it to a 2.
 
Markhor

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  • Morphology: 1 - similar to Ibex
  • Biome: 0 - some Markhor habitat shares the same range as Snow Leopard/Himalayan Brown Bear
  • Distribution: 2 - no other Central Asian mountain goats
  • Conservation: 0 - Near Threatened
  • Popularity: 1 - most zoo nerds will know it, but general public would likely not know of it
  • Visual appeal: 2 - one of the more striking mountain goats imo with it's corkscrew horns, I think it's worth a 2 here
  • Rarity in zoos: 1 - tough to tell how many zoos have them, but from what I've found they certainly aren't rare in zoos, but I wouldn't say they are super-common either
  • Total: 7
In that case I’m more than happy to bump them up a few points!

North Island Brown Kiwi my beloved: 12/14

(I recently had a conversation with some friends in America about them and they all had no idea what they were, so that may have skewed my perception of their popularity a bit lol)

Alrighty here’s some more :)

Kea
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Morphology: 2 - We have no parrots in game

Distribution: 2 - No NZ animals in game

Biome: 2 - Again, no other parrots, and even if we did I doubt we’d have another with the taiga biome.

Conservation: 2 - Endangered according to the IUCN.

Popularity: 0.5 - Seems to be pretty well known within NZ, but obscure outside of it.

Visual Appeal: 2 - Very cute with some distinct coloration.

Rarity: 1 - Very common in NZ, not so much worldwide.

Total: 11.5/14

Little Blue Penguin
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Morphology: 1 - Similar to other penguin species.

Biome: 1 - Would share the aquatic biome with the other penguins, but would also be unique in having the temperate biome.

Distribution: 2 - Only Australian penguin and (once again) we have nothing from NZ in game.

Conservation: 0 - Least concern

Popularity: 2 - Penguins in general are very well known.

Visual Appeal: 2 - The smallest penguin and they’re really cute :>

Rarity: 1 - Not as rare as other NZ animals overseas but not common either.

Total: 9/10

South Island Takahe
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Morphology: 2 - We have no rail species in game.

Biome: 2 - Again, no other rails

Distribution: 2 - No other NZ animals in game.

Conservation: 2 - Endangered

Popularity: 0 - Not well known by the general public

Visual Appeal: 2 - Like the kiwi, they are delightfully round. They’re also very colorful. :)

Rarity: 0 - Not common in NZ zoos and absent overseas.

Total: 10/14
Another round of popular and unpopular species from my favourites list, this time non-Australian:

Maned Wolf

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Morphology: 1 - We have many other canids, even if this is a fairly unique one
Biome: 0 - Grassland and tropical biomes are already occupied by other large canids like dholes and dingoes
Distribution: 2 - No South American canids, also little representation for SA grasslands
Conservation: 0 - Near Threatened
Popularity: 1 - Not a widely known animal but increasingly less obscure, becoming popular online
Visual appeal: 2 - Beautiful appearance, popular as a "fox on stilts"
Rarity in zoos: 2 - Well represented and widespread in zoos, even in places like Australia
Total: 10/14

Lowland Anoa

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Morphology: 1 - Looks distinct, but very closely related to the water buffalo
Biome: 0 - Already have two tropical buffalo species
Distribution: 1 - Another South-east Asian buffalo, but none from Sulawesi
Conservation: 2 - Endangered
Popularity: 0 - Very much an obscure animal
Visual appeal: 1 - Cute small cattle, but not particularly appealing to the public
Rarity in zoos: 1 - Not common but not super rare either (21 EAZA holdings)
Total: 7/14

don't worry anoa I still love you
I have an idea. I could add a list of all animals people ranked to the main post. This way we'll eventually get a list of which animals are most valuable to add to the game.

What do you think?
 
Ranking the rest of my Australian essentials (including the tree roo even though it's New Guinean):

Emu

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Morphology: 1 - Essentially the plains version of the cassowary
Biome: 1 - Overlaps with ostriches in grassland and desert, but also occurs in temperate environments
Distribution: 2 - No overlap with other ratites
Conservation: 0 - Least Concern
Popularity: 2 - Among the most iconic Australian animals, right up there with the kangaroo and koala
Visual appeal: 2 - Might seem a bit plain to some, but to me they're very charismatic
Rarity in zoos: 2 - Extremely common zoo animal right across the world
Total: 10/14

Bennett's Wallaby

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Morphology: 1 - Similar to kangaroo but clearly distinct
Biome: 2 - No macropods in temperate environments
Distribution: 2 - No macropods from south-eastern Australia
Conservation: 0 - Least Concern
Popularity: 2 - While they might not know this species specifically, wallabies in general are well-known
Visual appeal: 2 - Very cute and fluffy, a bit plain in colour but still has that macropod weirdness
Rarity in zoos: 2 - Extremely common zoo animal right across the world
Total: 11/14

Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo

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Morphology: 2 - While a macropod, it is extremely different in appearance from the species we have in game
Biome: 2 - No macropods from tropical environments
Distribution: 2 - No macropods from New Guinea
Conservation: 2 - Endangered
Popularity: 1 - Not too well known to the general public but popular amongst animal lovers
Visual appeal: 2 - Beautifully rich patterning and cute appearance
Rarity in zoos: 1 - The standard tree kangaroo in Europe, Asia and Australia, but still not particularly common
Total: 12/14
(pretty much the exact same scoring for Matschie's, they're very similar aside from Matschie's being the zoo tree roo for NA)

Short-beaked Echidna

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Morphology: 2 - Very different from the platypus despite being related, no other spiny mammals in the game
Biome: 2 - No similar animals
Distribution: 2 - No similar animals
Conservation: 0 - Least Concern
Popularity: 1 - Very popular in Australia, decently well known elsewhere but not an ABC animal
Visual appeal: 2 - Cute and delightfully weird
Rarity in zoos: 1 - Very common in Australia, uncommon globally
Total: 10/14
 
Ranking the rest of my Australian essentials (including the tree roo even though it's New Guinean):

Emu

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Morphology: 1 - Essentially the plains version of the cassowary
Biome: 1 - Overlaps with ostriches in grassland and desert, but also occurs in temperate environments
Distribution: 2 - No overlap with other ratites
Conservation: 0 - Least Concern
Popularity: 2 - Among the most iconic Australian animals, right up there with the kangaroo and koala
Visual appeal: 2 - Might seem a bit plain to some, but to me they're very charismatic
Rarity in zoos: 2 - Extremely common zoo animal right across the world
Total: 10/14

Bennett's Wallaby

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Morphology: 1 - Similar to kangaroo but clearly distinct
Biome: 2 - No macropods in temperate environments
Distribution: 2 - No macropods from south-eastern Australia
Conservation: 0 - Least Concern
Popularity: 2 - While they might not know this species specifically, wallabies in general are well-known
Visual appeal: 2 - Very cute and fluffy, a bit plain in colour but still has that macropod weirdness
Rarity in zoos: 2 - Extremely common zoo animal right across the world
Total: 11/14

Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo

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Morphology: 2 - While a macropod, it is extremely different in appearance from the species we have in game
Biome: 2 - No macropods from tropical environments
Distribution: 2 - No macropods from New Guinea
Conservation: 2 - Endangered
Popularity: 1 - Not too well known to the general public but popular amongst animal lovers
Visual appeal: 2 - Beautifully rich patterning and cute appearance
Rarity in zoos: 1 - The standard tree kangaroo in Europe, Asia and Australia, but still not particularly common
Total: 12/14
(pretty much the exact same scoring for Matschie's, they're very similar aside from Matschie's being the zoo tree roo for NA)

Short-beaked Echidna

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Morphology: 2 - Very different from the platypus despite being related, no other spiny mammals in the game
Biome: 2 - No similar animals
Distribution: 2 - No similar animals
Conservation: 0 - Least Concern
Popularity: 1 - Very popular in Australia, decently well known elsewhere but not an ABC animal
Visual appeal: 2 - Cute and delightfully weird
Rarity in zoos: 1 - Very common in Australia, uncommon globally
Total: 10/14
You could also add the yellow footed wallaby, it's pretty iconic. And Kookaburra and flying fox?
 
You could also add the yellow footed wallaby, it's pretty iconic.
Definitely - as I've said before, it's actually significantly more common than the Bennett's in the zoos near me. Unfortunately, does not end up ranking as high:

Yellow-footed Rock-wallaby

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Morphology: 1 - Similar to kangaroo but clearly distinct
Biome: 1 - Shares semi-arid climate with the red kangaroo, but affords some distinction due to occupying a very different habitat (rocky ranges as opposed to flat plains)
Distribution: 0 - Entire distribution contained within that of the red kangaroo
Conservation: 0 - Near Threatened, but this is largely thanks to previous conservation efforts. Once significantly more threatened
Popularity: 2 - While they might not know this species specifically, wallabies in general are well-known
Visual appeal: 2 - Easily one of the most beautiful wallabies
Rarity in zoos: 1 - Moderately common in Australian zoos, uncommon internationally
Total: 7/14

And Kookaburra
Might as well do the three most essential Australian aviary birds then.

Laughing Kookaburra

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Morphology: 2 - No other kingfishers in game
Biome: 2 - No other kingfishers in game
Distribution: 2 - No other kingfishers in game
Conservation: 0 - Least Concern
Popularity: 2 - Most iconic Australian bird alongside emu and cockatoos
Visual appeal: 2 - Largest and most impressive of the kingfishers, but uniquely it's more audially appealing than visually
Rarity in zoos: 2 - Widespread in zoos throughout the world
Total: 12/14

Sulphur-crested Cockatoo

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Morphology: 2 - No other cockatoos or parrots in game
Biome: 2 - No other cockatoos or parrots in game
Distribution: 2 - No other cockatoos or parrots in game
Conservation: 0 - Least Concern
Popularity: 2 - Most iconic Australian bird alongside emu and kookaburra
Visual appeal: 2 - Iconic crest and stark white colouration softly contrasting with yellow undertones
Rarity in zoos: 2 - Widespread in zoos throughout the world
Total: 12/14

Rainbow Lorikeet

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Morphology: 2 - No other parrots in game
Biome: 2 - No other parrots in game
Distribution: 2 - No other parrots in game
Conservation: 0 - Least Concern
Popularity: 2 - Well known due to beautiful colours and prominence in captivity (both in zoos and in the pet trade)
Visual appeal: 2 - just look at it
Rarity in zoos: 2 - Widespread in zoos throughout the world
Total: 12/14

Every aviary bird is gonna score highly until we actually get some in game though. I'll be interesting to see how these rankings change once more species are added.

and flying fox?
I actually wouldn't consider any of the Australian flying-fox species that important - sure, I'd definitely like one, but they're all very rare in international zoos and not too common here either. Instead, the flying-fox species I think we need is:

Rodrigues Flying-fox

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Morphology: 1 - Another pteropodid, but much larger than the little fruit bat
Biome: 1 - Shares tropical biome with fruit bat
Distribution: 2 - First representation for Rodrigues or any of the Mascarene Archipelago
Conservation: 2 - Endangered
Popularity: 2 - Not this species specifically, but I feel flying-foxes in general are pretty well known
Visual appeal: 2 - Huge bat with a cute dog-like face
Rarity in zoos: 1 - One of the most common flying-foxes in captivity (especially in the US) but not super widespread either
Total: 11/14

In regards to Australian bats, there's definitely one species I want over any other:

Ghost Bat

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Morphology: 2 - No "microbats" in game
Biome: 2 - No "microbats" in game
Distribution: 2 - No "microbats" in game
Conservation: 1 - Vulnerable
Popularity: 0 - While probably the most popular Australian bat aside from flying-foxes, it can hardly be called a well known animal
Visual appeal: 2 - Second largest "microbat" on earth with transparent wing membranes and whitish fur
Rarity in zoos: 0 - Regionally locked, and while it's probably the most widespread bat in Australian zoos it can still only be considered mildly common to uncommon in local collections. Still the bat for Australian zoos as far as I am concerned
Total: 9/14

That's enough for one day lol

EDIT: I’ve never actually seen a flying-fox in the (admittedly small number of) zoos I’ve been to, but there’s a giant grey-headed flying-fox colony right outside the entrance of the Adelaide Zoo so it almost feels like they’re part of the attraction.
 
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Golden pheasant
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Morphology - 2 (I think it's more than distinct enough from the peafowl)
Biome - 1 (pheasant is regarded as temperate, but India and China are still quite different climate-wise)
Distribution - 1 (not sure if there's any range overlap with the blue peafowl?)
Conservation - 0 (LC)
Popularity - 0 (most people do not know their birds even if they may well have seen this one in zoos)
Visual appeal - 2 (obviously distinctive and beautiful plumage on the male)
Rarity in zoos - 2 (extremely common in North American, European, and Asian zoos)

Overall - 8/14

Père David’s deer for @nutrit
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Morphology - 1 (somewhat similar to the red deer but with distinct differences)
Biome - 0 (already have two temperate deer)
Distribution - 2 (no East Asian deer)
Conservation - 2 (CR/EW)
Popularity - 0 (not exactly the first deer most people would name)
Visual appeal - 1 (entirely subjective but hoofstock don't tend to be the most popular species with guests)
Rarity in zoos - 1 (decent-sized captive population, especially in China)

Overall - 7/14

Patagonian mara
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Morphology - 2 (closely related to the capybara but very different-looking)
Biome - 1 (grassland overlap with capybara)
Distribution - 2 (no geographic overlap with the capybara)
Conservation - 0 (NT)
Popularity - 1 (climbing higher on the meta-wishlist)
Visual appeal - 2 (cute and very unique-looking)
Rarity in zoos - 2 (extremely common in AZA and EAZA, especially smaller institutions)

Overall - 10/14
 
I decided to go for my fourteen top species, if I had the choice. I have tried to be as unbiased as possible (probably under-marked quite a bit). The first seven (in alphabetical order) are:

Bar-headed goose

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Morphology: 2 – No other waterfowl species is in the game so far
Biome: 1 – Has very similar biome requirements to the red-crowned crane
Distribution: 1/2? – No other bird is in Central Asia; does share winter range with Indian peafowl
Conservation: 0 – Least Concern
Popularity: 0/1 – Obviously a goose, but the exact species may be less familiar
Visual appeal: 1/2? – Mostly grey, but does have the white-and-black barred head and orange bill and legs
Rarity in zoos: 2 – This is probably one of the most common species of goose in captivity

Total score – 7-10 out of 14

Giant Asian pond turtle

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Morphology: 2 – There are no other habitat chelonians that are not a tortoise species
Biome: 1 – Shares the tropical biome with both habitat tortoises, but also has access to aquatic biome
Distribution: 2 – There are no other Asian habitat chelonians
Conservation: 2 – Critically Endangered
Popularity: 0/1 – Obviously a turtle, but the exact species may be less familiar
Visual appeal: 1 – Not an especially pretty species, with much of its visual appeal coming from its size
Rarity in zoos: 1 – Not common, but fairly widespread in zoos

Total score – 9-10 out of 14

Golden-bellied mangabey

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Morphology: 2 – The only species of African primate with a tail; very different-looking to either tailed monkey
Biome: 0 – Shares the tropical biome with 3 out of the 4 in-game monkey species
Distribution: 2 – No other ingame monkey occurs in the part of the Congo Basin the mangabey is endemic to
Conservation: 2 – Endangered
Popularity: 0 – Mangabeys (indeed monkeys in general) seem to be mostly quite generic with the public
Visual appeal: 2 – No other in-game monkey has such a vivid contrast of bright yellow and rich brown
Rarity in zoos: 1 – Found in a relatively small number of zoos

Total score – 9 out of 14

Great white pelican

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Morphology: 2 – There is no species quite like a pelican in the game
Biome: 0 – Shares all biomes with the greater flamingo
Distribution: 1 – Shares most of its general range with the greater flamingo
Conservation: 0 – Least Concern
Popularity: 2 – Pelicans are probably one of the world’s most charismatic birds
Visual appeal: 2 – This pelican has rich colours and an elegant form
Rarity in zoos: 2 – This is probably among the most common pelican species in captivity

Total score – 9 out of 14

Lesser Malay chevrotain

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Morphology: 2 – There are no other ungulates in the game quite like the chevrotain
Biome: 1 – Shares the tropical and grassland biomes with many other ungulates
Distribution: 1 – No similar ungulate is Southeast Asian, but the babirusa and wild water buffalo do occur there
Conservation: 0 – Least Concern
Popularity: 1 – Chevrotains were, for a time, the subject of an internet meme, but remain little-known
Visual appeal: 2 – These are very cute looking by the standards of most ungulates
Rarity in zoos: 0/1? – The exact ID of most zoo animals is unknown; is either fairly common or only in native range

Total score – 7-8 out of 14

Ocellated turkey

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Morphology: 1 – Shares a lot of general features with the Indian peafowl
Biome: 0 – Shares the tropical and grassland biome with the Indian peafowl
Distribution: 2 – No other in-game birds occur in Central America
Conservation: 0 – Near Threatened
Popularity: 1 – Turkeys are well-known birds, but this exact species may not be known
Visual appeal: 2 – They are among the most colourful birds in the world
Rarity in zoos: 1 – Found in zoos in Europe, North America and Mexico, but are still rather rare

Total score – 7 out of 14

Owston’s civet

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Morphology: 2 – A mostly terrestrial civet that looks very different to the only other viverrid, the binturong
Biome: 0 – Restricted to the tropical biome, which it shares with the binturong
Distribution: 0 – Restricted to the Annamite Mountains, also home to the binturong
Conservation: 2 – Endangered
Popularity: 0 – Almost unknown to the general public
Visual appeal: 2 – Extremely attractively patterned
Rarity in zoos: 1 – Found in a few zoos in the UK

Total score – 7 out of 14
 
My other seven top species, again arranged in alphabetical order:

Pacarana

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Morphology: 2 – A rodent quite unlike any we currently have in the game
Biome: 2 – Occurs mostly in high-altitude habitat, unlike any other habitat rodent
Distribution: 2 – Is found in the Andes, again with no in-game habitat rodent
Conservation: 0 – Least Concern
Popularity: 1 – Subject to a viral video, but it was misidentified as a rat
Visual appeal: 2 – Attractively patterned and with a very charismatic and affable personality
Rarity in zoos: 0 – Formerly found in Europe and North America, now only kept in zoos in its native range

Total score – 9 out of 14

Parma wallaby

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Morphology: 1/2? – A macropod similar in body form to red kangaroo, but shrunk to a tenth of the size
Biome: 2 – Endemic to temperate biome, unlike any other marsupial (or indeed habitat animal) in-game
Distribution: 0/1? – Shares range with other marsupials like koala and wombat, but not with red kangaroo
Conservation: 0 – Near Threatened
Popularity: 1/2? – Identifiable as a wallaby, although the exact species may be unfamiliar
Visual appeal: 2 – Being the smallest macropod, they are often seen as being very cute
Rarity in zoos: 2 – Common in Europe and Australia, also present in North America

Total score – 8-11 out of 14

Southern ground hornbill

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Morphology: 2 – Nothing else quite like a ground hornbill appears in the game
Biome: 0 – Endemic to grassland biome, shared with common ostrich
Distribution: 0 – Occurs in Southern and Eastern Africa, in basically the same range as common ostrich
Conservation: 1 – Vulnerable
Popularity: 1 – A charismatic bird, part of the Kruger’s Bird Big 6, but not immediately obvious
Visual appeal: 2 – The mostly sombre dark plumage is offset by the colourful throat pouch and long eyelashes
Rarity in zoos: 2 – Commonly kept in zoos around the world

Total score – 8 out of 14

Striped hyena

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Morphology: 1 - Similar to spotted hyena, but will many differences (the mane, smaller size etc.) that would make it feel less similar
Biome: 1 - Occurs in grassland habitat like the spotted hyena, but has a much broader biome tolerance (desert and temperate definitely, maybe also tropical)
Distribution: 1 - Does overlap partially with spotted hyena, but in many areas (including Asia) it is the only hyena species
Conservation: 0 - Near Threatened
Popularity: 1 - Known to people, but generally speaking they don't have positive feelings towards these animals
Visual appeal: 0/1? - Remember reading that people found the striped hyena at San Diego Zoo attractive until they learned what it was, then it was immediately seen as ugly
Rarity in zoos: 2 - Found in European, North American, Singaporean, African and Asian zoos

Total score - 6/7 out of 14

Transcaspian urial

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Morphology: 0/1? – Resembles a Dall sheep, but with much more magnificent horns and a mane in rams
Biome: 1 – Shares taiga with Dall sheep and ibex; also has temperate and desert biome
Distribution: 2 – No other even-toed ungulate is recorded from its range
Conservation: 2 – Critically Endangered
Popularity: 0 – Practically unknown to the general public
Visual appeal: 1 – While it may be seen to many as just a sheep, its magnificent horns elevate it
Rarity in zoos: 1 – Found in Europe, North America and South Africa, but nowhere is it common

Total score – 7-8 out of 14

Venezuelan red howler monkey

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Morphology: 2 – Although it is another New World monkey, it is very different in appearance to the capuchin
Biome: 0 – Shares the tropical biome with most of the other in-game monkeys
Distribution: 1 – Tiny overlap with the capuchin but would otherwise be the only South American monkey
Conservation: 0 – Least Concern
Popularity: 2 – In my experience, red howlers are the species commonly shown in wildlife documentaries
Visual appeal: 2 – The more richly-coloured of the two commonly-kept howler monkeys
Rarity in zoos: 1 – Found in Europe and North and South America, but nowhere common

Total score – 8 out of 14

Yellow-throated marten

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Morphology: 2 – This looks like no other mustelid, or indeed carnivore, in the game
Biome: 0 – Has tropical, temperate and taiga, overlapping with all three in-game mustelids
Distribution: 1 – Overlaps with Asian small-clawed otter, but has large areas where it is the only mustelid
Conservation: 0 – Least Concern
Popularity: 1 – Recognisable as a marten, but the exact species is probably not so well known
Visual appeal: 2 – Extremely colourful and active
Rarity in zoos: 1 – Quite common in Europe and parts of Asia, but doesn’t have worldwide representation

Total score – 7 out of 14
 
Imo whole thing is very interesting, but 0-1-2 system isnt quite enough to represent everything well. Not every category should be equal and there should be some thresholds.
I will ommit subjective categories like visual appeal or morphology. Some people thought asian otter was reskin of giant otter afterall.

Example of few revamped categories:
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Feel free to share about more categories. Maximum points atm = 25
I will go with first 3 animals from this thread linnaeu's two-toed sloth:
1. Captivity Presence : 5
2. Conservation Status : 2
3. Popularity: 5
4. Uniqueness: 4
5. Distribution: 4
Overall: 20 / 25

Spectacled Bear
1. Captivity Presence : 2
2. Conservation Status : 3
3. Popularity: 4
4. Uniqueness: 3
5. Distribution: 3
Overall: 15 / 25

Spectacled Caiman:
1. Captivity Presence : 5
2. Conservation Status : 1
3. Popularity: 0
4. Uniqueness: 3
5. Distribution: 1
Overall: 10 / 25
 
Imo whole thing is very interesting, but 0-1-2 system isnt quite enough to represent everything well. Not every category should be equal and there should be some thresholds.
I will ommit subjective categories like visual appeal or morphology. Some people thought asian otter was reskin of giant otter afterall.

Example of few revamped categories:





Feel free to share about more categories. Maximum points atm = 25
I will go with first 3 animals from this thread linnaeu's two-toed sloth:
1. Captivity Presence : 5
2. Conservation Status : 2
3. Popularity: 5
4. Uniqueness: 4
5. Distribution: 4
Overall: 20 / 25

Spectacled Bear
1. Captivity Presence : 2
2. Conservation Status : 3
3. Popularity: 4
4. Uniqueness: 3
5. Distribution: 3
Overall: 15 / 25

Spectacled Caiman:
1. Captivity Presence : 5
2. Conservation Status : 1
3. Popularity: 0
4. Uniqueness: 3
5. Distribution: 1
Overall: 10 / 25
What about distribution of species extinct in the wild?
 
Interesting!

So lets make a Drylands pack and see how that would work out:

1) Dromedary
  • Morphology: 0
  • Biome: 0
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 2
  • Visual appeal: 1
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 7
The dromedary's saving graces are being such a well-known and common animal, and covering a new distribution for a camelid.

2) Mara
  • Morphology: 2
  • Biome: 2
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 1
  • Visual appeal: 2
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 11
Great score for a great animal that is way underrated!

3) Yellow-footed rock wallaby
  • Morphology: 2
  • Biome: 1
  • Distribution: 0
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 0
  • Visual appeal: 2
  • Rarity in zoos: 1
  • Total: 6
Very surprised this one scored lower than the dromedary. It shares distribution and biome with the red kangaroo, and is a very niche animal with no conservation importance surprisingly, so there you go.

4) Addax
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 0
  • Distribution: 1
  • Conservation: 2
  • Popularity: 1
  • Visual appeal: 1
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 8
Very happy with that score, considering it's another antelope.

5) Collared peccary
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 2
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 1
  • Visual appeal: 1
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 9
That's very respectable for another suid.

6) Emu
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 2
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 2
  • Visual appeal: 1
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 10
Good score, and the emu deserves it.

And some additional animals just to see how they'd score:

Persian onager
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 1
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 2
  • Popularity: 0
  • Visual appeal: 1
  • Rarity in zoos: 1
  • Total: 8
The game's first wild donkey gets a fair score. But I think this pack is already ungulate heavy, and people would prefer the dromedary, addax, and peccary over the onager.

Sand cat
  • Morphology: 2
  • Biome: 2
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 1
  • Visual appeal: 2
  • Rarity in zoos: 1
  • Total: 10
Nice, a really good score for the smallest cat in game! And it's a true desert dweller, so perfect for this pack.

Caracal
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 1
  • Distribution: 1
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 1
  • Visual appeal: 2
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 8
A good score, but the sand cat scores better because the caracal comes closer to cats we already have in game.

Honeybadger
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 2
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 0
  • Visual appeal: 0
  • Rarity in zoos: 1
  • Total: 6
Another consideration for the predator pick, but this one scores lower than both of the cats.

Striped hyena
  • Morphology: 0
  • Biome: 1
  • Distribution: 1
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 0
  • Visual appeal: 2
  • Rarity in zoos: 1
  • Total: 5
And the striped hyena scores even lower than the honeybadger.

So I think the predator slot should go to the sand cat, which would make it habitat animal number 7.
 
This is really interesting, I did one for my #1 species (the lion-tailed macaque):

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Morphology: 1 (there are already monkeys in game, including a macaque)
Biome: 0 (we have other tropical monkeys)
Distribution: 2 (we have no primate at all from India)
Conservation: 2 (Endangered)
Popularity: 1 (recognizable as a monkey, but the species is not well-known outside India)
Visual appeal: 2 (monkeys in general are cute and charming for most audiences, and the lion-tailed macaque is furthermore visually unique/striking with its lion-like mane and tail, color combo, and large fangs)
Rarity in zoos: 1 (rare in the US, but it looks like a lot of European and Asian collections have them)

Total: 9/14.
 
What about distribution of species extinct in the wild?
Historical distribution.
I copied this category from first page and still find it kinda wacky. Maybe it shouldnt be taken into account.
I know main factor for this category is existence of spectacled caiman, but then we have many potential south american monkeys from amazon rainforest or african cats, which coexist IRL.
 
Interesting!

So lets make a Drylands pack and see how that would work out:

1) Dromedary
  • Morphology: 0
  • Biome: 0
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 2
  • Visual appeal: 1
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 7
The dromedary's saving graces are being such a well-known and common animal, and covering a new distribution for a camelid.

2) Mara
  • Morphology: 2
  • Biome: 2
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 1
  • Visual appeal: 2
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 11
Great score for a great animal that is way underrated!

3) Yellow-footed rock wallaby
  • Morphology: 2
  • Biome: 1
  • Distribution: 0
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 0
  • Visual appeal: 2
  • Rarity in zoos: 1
  • Total: 6
Very surprised this one scored lower than the dromedary. It shares distribution and biome with the red kangaroo, and is a very niche animal with no conservation importance surprisingly, so there you go.

4) Addax
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 0
  • Distribution: 1
  • Conservation: 2
  • Popularity: 1
  • Visual appeal: 1
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 8
Very happy with that score, considering it's another antelope.

5) Collared peccary
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 2
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 1
  • Visual appeal: 1
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 9
That's very respectable for another suid.

6) Emu
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 2
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 2
  • Visual appeal: 1
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 10
Good score, and the emu deserves it.

And some additional animals just to see how they'd score:

Persian onager
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 1
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 2
  • Popularity: 0
  • Visual appeal: 1
  • Rarity in zoos: 1
  • Total: 8
The game's first wild donkey gets a fair score. But I think this pack is already ungulate heavy, and people would prefer the dromedary, addax, and peccary over the onager.

Sand cat
  • Morphology: 2
  • Biome: 2
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 1
  • Visual appeal: 2
  • Rarity in zoos: 1
  • Total: 10
Nice, a really good score for the smallest cat in game! And it's a true desert dweller, so perfect for this pack.

Caracal
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 1
  • Distribution: 1
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 1
  • Visual appeal: 2
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 8
A good score, but the sand cat scores better because the caracal comes closer to cats we already have in game.

Honeybadger
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 2
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 0
  • Visual appeal: 0
  • Rarity in zoos: 1
  • Total: 6
Another consideration for the predator pick, but this one scores lower than both of the cats.

Striped hyena
  • Morphology: 0
  • Biome: 1
  • Distribution: 1
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 0
  • Visual appeal: 2
  • Rarity in zoos: 1
  • Total: 5
And the striped hyena scores even lower than the honeybadger.

So I think the predator slot should go to the sand cat, which would make it habitat animal number 7.
Sorry to take your Post as an example. But I somehow do not get the popularity scores. I would take the Meta Wishlist as indicator as we do not have much more true indicators for popularity. Everything else seems subjective again. My examples are:
Caracal (1 point) --> place 17 on wishlist
Dromedary (2 points) --> place 20 on wishlist
Honey Badger (0 points) --> place 37 on wishlist
Sand cat (1 point) --> place 115 on wishlist.

If you would give the Caracal 2 points and the Sand Cat 0 points in popularity as it is indicated by the wishlist both would have the same score. No criticism on your point of view. I just have noticed this. Perhaps I will make later some own scorings if I should find some time.
 
Interesting!

So lets make a Drylands pack and see how that would work out:

1) Dromedary
  • Morphology: 0
  • Biome: 0
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 2
  • Visual appeal: 1
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 7
The dromedary's saving graces are being such a well-known and common animal, and covering a new distribution for a camelid.

2) Mara
  • Morphology: 2
  • Biome: 2
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 1
  • Visual appeal: 2
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 11
Great score for a great animal that is way underrated!

3) Yellow-footed rock wallaby
  • Morphology: 2
  • Biome: 1
  • Distribution: 0
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 0
  • Visual appeal: 2
  • Rarity in zoos: 1
  • Total: 6
Very surprised this one scored lower than the dromedary. It shares distribution and biome with the red kangaroo, and is a very niche animal with no conservation importance surprisingly, so there you go.

4) Addax
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 0
  • Distribution: 1
  • Conservation: 2
  • Popularity: 1
  • Visual appeal: 1
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 8
Very happy with that score, considering it's another antelope.

5) Collared peccary
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 2
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 1
  • Visual appeal: 1
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 9
That's very respectable for another suid.

6) Emu
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 2
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 2
  • Visual appeal: 1
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 10
Good score, and the emu deserves it.

And some additional animals just to see how they'd score:

Persian onager
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 1
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 2
  • Popularity: 0
  • Visual appeal: 1
  • Rarity in zoos: 1
  • Total: 8
The game's first wild donkey gets a fair score. But I think this pack is already ungulate heavy, and people would prefer the dromedary, addax, and peccary over the onager.

Sand cat
  • Morphology: 2
  • Biome: 2
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 1
  • Visual appeal: 2
  • Rarity in zoos: 1
  • Total: 10
Nice, a really good score for the smallest cat in game! And it's a true desert dweller, so perfect for this pack.

Caracal
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 1
  • Distribution: 1
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 1
  • Visual appeal: 2
  • Rarity in zoos: 2
  • Total: 8
A good score, but the sand cat scores better because the caracal comes closer to cats we already have in game.

Honeybadger
  • Morphology: 1
  • Biome: 2
  • Distribution: 2
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 0
  • Visual appeal: 0
  • Rarity in zoos: 1
  • Total: 6
Another consideration for the predator pick, but this one scores lower than both of the cats.

Striped hyena
  • Morphology: 0
  • Biome: 1
  • Distribution: 1
  • Conservation: 0
  • Popularity: 0
  • Visual appeal: 2
  • Rarity in zoos: 1
  • Total: 5
And the striped hyena scores even lower than the honeybadger.

So I think the predator slot should go to the sand cat, which would make it habitat animal number 7.
Nice! But add pictures.

And I think the Honey badger deserves 1 in both popularity and visual appeal. Honey badger is well known meme for being relentlessly baddass.
 
Historical distribution.
I copied this category from first page and still find it kinda wacky. Maybe it shouldnt be taken into account.
I know main factor for this category is existence of spectacled caiman, but then we have many potential south american monkeys from amazon rainforest or african cats, which coexist IRL.
Nahh, distribution is there because if a similar species represents a whole new area it's a lot more valuable than two similsr species in the same area.

Think ASCO and Giant Otter.
 
Nice! But add pictures.

And I think the Honey badger deserves 1 in both popularity and visual appeal. Honey badger is well known meme for being relentlessly baddass.
I am unfamiliar with the meme. I used the score system in the opening post to rank the animals. Honeybadgers are off-putting looking, not exactly pretty, so yes, very badass, but that would put them at 0 points. 1 point is a bland looking animal, and they are not that. 2 points is a very charismatic/cute/colorful animal and they are not that either.

If anything, I think the scoring system here could maybe have been a bit different: 0: bland animal. 1: interesting looking. 2: very charismatic/cute/colorful. And then I'd give honeybadgers 1 point :)
Sorry to take your Post as an example. But I somehow do not get the popularity scores. I would take the Meta Wishlist as indicator as we do not have much more true indicators for popularity. Everything else seems subjective again. My examples are:
Caracal (1 point) --> place 17 on wishlist
Dromedary (2 points) --> place 20 on wishlist
Honey Badger (0 points) --> place 37 on wishlist
Sand cat (1 point) --> place 115 on wishlist.

If you would give the Caracal 2 points and the Sand Cat 0 points in popularity as it is indicated by the wishlist both would have the same score. No criticism on your point of view. I just have noticed this. Perhaps I will make later some own scorings if I should find some time.
I didn't look at the meta list and don't consider that the end-all be-all of what animals people are familiar with. I'm taking my family and friends as examples and look at the indicators in the opening post:

0: only animal nerds would know it (aka people here on the forums). 1: somewhat known to general audiences. 2: every kid knows and loves this animal.

Everyone knows dromedaries, hence 2 points.
People are relatively familiar with caracals and sand cats.
Nobody I know, knows what honeybadgers are. They only know 'normal' badgers (aka European badgers).

So there are your points. They make perfect sense to me and I tried to be fair. Just because I know these animals and people on these forums know these animals and rank them high on the wishlist, don't make them popular or well known animals.
 
I didn't look at the meta list and don't consider that the end-all be-all of what animals people are familiar with. I'm taking my family and friends as examples and look at the indicators in the opening post:

0: only animal nerds would know it (aka people here on the forums). 1: somewhat known to general audiences. 2: every kid knows and loves this animal.

Everyone knows dromedaries, hence 2 points.
People are relatively familiar with caracals and sand cats.
Nobody I know, knows what honeybadgers are. They only know 'normal' badgers (aka European badgers).

So there are your points. They make perfect sense to me and I tried to be fair. Just because I know these animals and people on these forums know these animals and rank them high on the wishlist, don't make them popular or well known animals.
Okay 👍. I think the "popularity" of animals also is dependent from where are you coming and which Zoos you have visited except some clear animals nearly everybody knows like the Dromedary Camel or perhaps the Emu. When I think of myself I did not really know the Sand Cat before the Forum but I knew the Honey Badger because there was a video I have watched about it where it permanently escapes from its enclosure.
 
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