I wish there was a game quality Pallas cat mod lol, but yeah mods really aren't the answer to what the game should and shouldn't include. For that really niche rare in captivity or domestic animal someone always wanted? Sure there's probably a decent mod for it, but a zoo staple animal should of already been added to the game, not having to rely on mods to fill that gap.
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Yeah true. It doesn't invalidate wanting an official versión just because there is a good mod for it BUT for me at least the fact that some high quality mod exists reduces my anxiety of getting that animal or not next pack because at least i know i have an option to get it ingame regardless. And of there is a good mod for an animal then it goes down quite a bit in my priority list. That's why i've been more vocal about a pelican over a duck lately. There are good looking pelicans but they don't have the right animations/rig/behaviours while ducks do work almost perfectly with the rig swan, main problem with them are the sounds.
Same goes for the blackbuck or the markhor. I much rather get the musk ox that needs heavy texture work or the gerenuk that would need new animations over both of them, despite the blackbuck being my favorite non african antelope.
Yeah I love the habitat at Stone Zoo, the problem is. This is probably the final pack, it may be already too late. If frontier went another route and added more birds possibly today we could have had guineafowl, ibis, and another flamingo but unfortunately its too late.
The duck mods look fantastic and if we never get an official one they are a great alternative.
But there is one thing that makes me really want an official one and that is that they all move with the weight of the swan. Which honestly is alot more immersion breaking to me than the lack of duck sounds.
So getting a official duck to base all the other mods on would be so great imo
But there is one thing that makes me really want an official one and that is that they all move with the weight of the swan. Which honestly is alot more immersion breaking to me than the lack of duck sounds.
So getting a official duck to base all the other mods on would be so great imo
One of the things that people tend to forget is the part right before "we're working on another animal pack" which was "as much as our team is busy with bringing all the content over from PC onto console".
I think it's safer to say that the pack is coming later than usual because they're trying to meet the deadlines of releasing the console bundles (which is like, every other month I believe?) than that they're necessarily making the pack larger than normal. Not saying it's impossible, but given JWE2's last pack I'd say it's better to be cautious.
The issue would still remain, though... Because if they gave us, say, a monkey every other pack or whatever then that would come at the expense of another "in-demand" animal. And you'd only ever get one primate in each pack. The biggest "misses" for me in this regard are the Arid pack not having the baboon and, really, we should have gotten the gibbon instead of the siamang for Conservation and had a monkey slotted into Tropical.
Birds are a different thing entirely because, as I've said before, your average person saying they want "birds" really just wants aviaries. That's shifted a bit recently with ducks and pelicans recently but... I dunno. Outside the forums it's always a call for "birds and aquatics" not specific species.
It's obvious that Frontier has focused on individual species, rather than animal types, and picked pack themes based around the species selected. For better or for worse, that's where we're at. But there were always going to be glaring roster gaps; whether those were individual species or animal types it was going to happen. And I get why they structure the packs in the way that they do.
I mean, I guess they could put a "focus" on them but I don't think it's reasonable to expect them to load up a pack full of them. And I think anybody expecting that is setting themselves up for disappointment.
Expecting a monkey and, say, a baboon however doesn't feel unreasonable to me.
I’m not expecting anything crazy, say the final pack is bigger:
- 2 monkeys, 3-4 birds. Out of 12 animals that would be pretty fair I think.
If I was in control of Frontier, I would do anniversary animal(s). One for each year of development as a happy send off. (I’ll just do all birds as an example)
- Caribbean flamingo
- Greater Rhea (assuming it isn’t in the next dlc)
- Golden pheasant
- Whooping crane
- Guinea fowl
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Man i just want a duck and a monkey.
I really dont care about most other animals making it or not at this point as the general selection is just that good so for example while a dedicated asian or american deer would be nice (and quite doable with the wapitit in a space efficent way) if it not happens there are still 4 other deer species in the game to choose one or alternativly for mods to be based on.
Monkeys and waterfowl meanwhile are just way to limited. Africa can deal with it thanks to apes and lemures and asia atleast has the macaque, orang utan, gibbons and even funny nose monkey, but having just one monkey for south america sucks.
Sure i could just use the capuchin multiple time but :/
Not to mention that more then one body type would be very welcome here, with ideally both a larger and a smaller one added.
Similary filling up every pond with swans and flamingos also feels wrong and trust me i tried.
For larger ponds and small lakes the swan is perfect, but seeing them in an actual pond just feels wrong.
I really dont care about most other animals making it or not at this point as the general selection is just that good so for example while a dedicated asian or american deer would be nice (and quite doable with the wapitit in a space efficent way) if it not happens there are still 4 other deer species in the game to choose one or alternativly for mods to be based on.
Monkeys and waterfowl meanwhile are just way to limited. Africa can deal with it thanks to apes and lemures and asia atleast has the macaque, orang utan, gibbons and even funny nose monkey, but having just one monkey for south america sucks.
Sure i could just use the capuchin multiple time but :/
Not to mention that more then one body type would be very welcome here, with ideally both a larger and a smaller one added.
Similary filling up every pond with swans and flamingos also feels wrong and trust me i tried.
For larger ponds and small lakes the swan is perfect, but seeing them in an actual pond just feels wrong.
Missed the last 3 pages, what did I miss?
Desperation for monkeys and birds, and discussion about final pack size
Basically nothing new
Also add a tortoise here. Or even a tortoise update.
The tortoises we currently have in game are very underwhelming, as they are to big to stand in for any other tortoise while being to small to fully capture the size range of giant tortoises. Would be fun if reptiles could reach maturity and then gradually keep increasing along there lifespawn, making huge tortoises and crocs accessible but only after a long time sounds fair and fun to me.
But yeah crazy that the only tortoise we got since the basegame was in an exhibit in a freacking snow themed eurasia pack.
Propaply arids second biggest fumble
Thats why a red footed tortoise is easily among my most wanted SA animals. Perfect small side habitat for both reptile houses and tropical halls
Never mind 3, that's the last 300 pages
Im bored rn so have my general reactions to most popular animals i can think of rn:
Baboon/new world monkey: happy
Both: very happy
Second new world monkey: hell yeah
Generic asian monkey: neat
Lemure: allright but id rather have a real monkey
Crane: neat
Secretary bird: neat enough, id prefer other birds
Pelican: hell yeah
Pheasent: chefs kiss
Duck: extacy
Rhea: neat
Nene: sweet
Blackbuck/nilgai: nice
Both: india will never need another ungulate ever again
Markhor/barbery sheep: good enough
Small deer/antelope: dope
Any other ungulate: fine to disappointment depending on redundancy (musk ox = fine, javan rhino = small rant on the reveal thread)
Pallas cat: guess we gotta have that cat
Ocelot: cat but your to usefull to not be okay
European wildcat: surprising but welcome
Any other cat: why you
Any canine: why you
Bears: better hope the other isnt around the corner as the anniversary animal
Mara: very pleased
Tortoise: thumbs up
Monitor: sweet
Croc: meh i guess
Rhinoceros iguana: awesome
Companied by freed iguanas: i forgive frontier every stupid decision they ever did
Anything else heavily dependant on what else is in the pack
Baboon/new world monkey: happy
Both: very happy
Second new world monkey: hell yeah
Generic asian monkey: neat
Lemure: allright but id rather have a real monkey
Crane: neat
Secretary bird: neat enough, id prefer other birds
Pelican: hell yeah
Pheasent: chefs kiss
Duck: extacy
Rhea: neat
Nene: sweet
Blackbuck/nilgai: nice
Both: india will never need another ungulate ever again
Markhor/barbery sheep: good enough
Small deer/antelope: dope
Any other ungulate: fine to disappointment depending on redundancy (musk ox = fine, javan rhino = small rant on the reveal thread)
Pallas cat: guess we gotta have that cat
Ocelot: cat but your to usefull to not be okay
European wildcat: surprising but welcome
Any other cat: why you
Any canine: why you
Bears: better hope the other isnt around the corner as the anniversary animal
Mara: very pleased
Tortoise: thumbs up
Monitor: sweet
Croc: meh i guess
Rhinoceros iguana: awesome
Companied by freed iguanas: i forgive frontier every stupid decision they ever did
Anything else heavily dependant on what else is in the pack
One problem, even if they do 1/4 of a pack which would be pretty sad as there's a ton of other animals. Its not going to fix the bird problem, the nwm monkey problem a little bit but the bird hell no. They could add hell a duck, pelican, secretary and rhea that wouldn't fix anything and would make other animals like coati, tree, markhor and more not be able to be added.
Waterfowl are great for more than just that alone even!
- I will say this until the cow comes home. We need a tropical waterfowl! Whistling duck, Brazilian teal, screamer, Muscovy duck, whatever it is we need one bad. The capybara, tapir, Pygmy hippo, and other animals could absolutely use a waterfowl to share their habitat with. Considering we can’t get flying birds, these guys are the best option.
- Besides a tropical waterfowl, we could use the waterfowl rig to make some good seabirds. Namely an eider, but a harlequin duck or long tail duck can also work. Admittedly very niche, but I am dying for some none-penguin sea birds. Not to mention making an oceanic water body is different than making a regular pond.
- Finally, yeah, they work for ponds. This just ties into what König said though. It’s just great to have options, and using the flamingos/ crane/ mute swan the whole time would get stale.
Planet Zoo 2 obviously will focus on Birds or slam dunk us and add sharks instead of flying birds. Planet Zoo even with a whole animal pack with 8 birds will not fix the current problem with less birds. Yes, it could add more birds but it will not appeal everyone and would leave a ton of other animals that are highly requested.
True but its better than nothing.
I just dont agree with not doing birds because their accurate representation is a lost cause anyways in order to get more mammals, who we already have plenty of, in
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